“A quirk in the German law about banning political parties states that a party can’t be banned unless it is actually strong enough to threaten German democracy. The AfD is a force of that magnitude: too big to ban and too big not to,” @gcaw.bsky.social writes: - ThreadSky

theatlantic.com • 2 days ago

“A quirk in the German law about banning political parties states that a party can’t be banned unless it is actually strong enough to threaten German democracy. The AfD is a force of that magnitude: too big to ban and too big not to,” @gcaw.bsky.social writes:

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poursomeglitter.bsky.social•2 days ago

How can you write on that topic and not have read up on science‘s answer to this? Don‘t fall for the right wing extremists‘ agenda, set your own talking points and through inattention starve them to death. However, with no prove to the contrary to back you up you conclude the populist answer?

poursomeglitter.bsky.social•2 days ago

Also, how can you report on this and cite just that Former-Head-of-the-agency-that-got-gutted-for-being-too-right-wing-extremist guy??
Doesn‘t anyone read through your articles anymore??

poursomeglitter.bsky.social•2 days ago

How can you report on this and not get your facts right? There is no withdrawal! They simply refrain from repeating it as they are in court about it. There‘s something similar in your country to this ‚Stillhaltezusage‘ (Agreement to stay silent) that goes until the courts have made their ruling.

arnejj.bsky.social•2 days ago

Curious why you would cite Hans Georg Maassen and not mention that he is so right extreme that he was fired to head the agency? @gcaw.bsky.social

arnejj.bsky.social•2 days ago

Or as @danijelmajic.bsky.social put it more eloquently here:
https://bsky.app/profile/danijelmajic.bsky.social/post/3lp2qsmqvkk2i

sebasfc.bsky.social•2 days ago

I had a foreign German education and fascism was shown in literature, history, art class, we learned about those horrors.
Time to review the education system maybe?

a-77.bsky.social•2 days ago

If ordinary politicians could pay attention to the problems the AfD uses just to promote themselves (because they are Putin’s puppets and have no real intention to fix the situation, but to divide people) - there would be no AfD in 1 year.

AfD speculated on hot topics to get to the power, Trump too

eve-mary.bsky.social•2 days ago

Greetz from Germany 👋 watch us ban the freaking far right party! Yes it takes time, yes we follow the constitution an the law, yes we will ban this AXD party 💪

newtongrunnion.bsky.social•2 days ago

#AfDVerbotJetzt

danijelmajic.bsky.social•2 days ago

As much as I enjoy @theatlantic.com s reporting most of the time, this article has at least two major Flash

1) You give the impression, that the "Verfassungsschutz" is under the control of the executive branch aka "the government". While it is true, that the Federal ministry of the Interior is in

danijelmajic.bsky.social•2 days ago

Charge of the operational part, the agency is at the same time controlled by a parlamentary commission, whose members - as you can guess by it's name - are named by the Federal Parlament. In addition to that, there is second instance of controll- the so called G10-Comission, which includes at least

danijelmajic.bsky.social•2 days ago

one member that would be eligible to serve as a judge. This commission has to greenlight all measures that include surveillance of communication.

To omit these two bodys of control gives the false impression, that the German can spy on "Internal adversaries" at will. Which is far from the truth...

danijelmajic.bsky.social•2 days ago

2) The alleged "quirk" in German law, which makes it necessary that a party has a certain size or impact, to be considered a threat to democracy, which in turn is a necessary condition for a ban - is not something that German lawmakers came up with. It is actually the result of the jurisprudence of

danijelmajic.bsky.social•2 days ago

the European Court for Human Rights, which was adopted by the German Constitutional Court in the 2000s.

I do not understand why @theatlantic.com would omit these basic facts from its reporting.

P.S. Citing Mr. Maaßen, without letting your Readers know, that the man has been heavily criticized for

danijelmajic.bsky.social•2 days ago

allegedly advising the AfD on how to avoid further surveillance by the agency, while he was still in office and not mentioning that he himself has - after being fired - founded a far-right splinter-party which (without success) mimics the AfD-Programm is more than irritating. You are not citing a

michellebird-r.bsky.social•2 days ago

The Atlantic: You can't ban Nazis unless they are big. The Nazis are big. The Nazis are too big to ban.

dloder.bsky.social•2 days ago

To me it looks like that’s only the rhetoric of the ones who are afraid to see the long term effects if the Germans appease an insidious, treacherous party again: “It’s the will of the people” and all. To me (I’m not German though), not doing anything would be a more dangerous precedent.

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