With Republicans going after Medicare and Medicaid it makes me realize how much of a better political footing Democrats would have if we had universal healthcare because it’s easy to fuck around with numbers and hide things as opposed to “everyone has healthcare vs not everyone has healthcare” - ThreadSky | a Reddit-style client for Bluesky

brendelbored.bsky.social • 21 hours ago

With Republicans going after Medicare and Medicaid it makes me realize how much of a better political footing Democrats would have if we had universal healthcare because it’s easy to fuck around with numbers and hide things as opposed to “everyone has healthcare vs not everyone has healthcare”

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robertelewis.bsky.social•21 hours ago

They’re not gonna cut any program. We’re not gonna let them they can go fuck themselves.

martina22.bsky.social•20 hours ago

darksidestraxus.bsky.social•21 hours ago

Choosing to ignore universal healthcare in favor of courting "Never Trump" conservatives is how you end up with a guy like RFK Jr in charge of public health.

Just saying!

brendelbored.bsky.social•21 hours ago

As with every other thing centrists believe, it not only isn’t politically helpful or “protecting the program” to slap on means testing and work requirements and all these bureaucratic potholes, it’s actually going to fuck everyone over in the end

theconceptofzero.bsky.social•21 hours ago

Means testing is such bullshit. It wastes so much work hours of employees administering the benefits and an incalculable amount of time for the folks who need the benefit

btketron.bsky.social•21 hours ago

It's another mechanism to defund or overregulate these programs so Republicans can point and say "See! Government programs don't work!" when they were the ones that hamstrung these depts and programs to begin with. Then claim that private companies can do it better for profit.

rockshrimp.bsky.social•21 hours ago

We’re fucked either way because you can’t get it passed in our fucked up bigoted asshole country if you promise it for everyone.

bencates.bsky.social•21 hours ago

Something that's consistently surprised me about both the public and the private sector is just how many otherwise intelligent and financially literate people would prefer to spend a dollar on fraud prevention over shrugging off fifty cents worth of petty theft.

unreasonable-man.bsky.social•21 hours ago

My first thought on reading this was "Oh, it's way worse than a dollar to fifty cents." You could have said a dollar to a dime and I still don't think it would be hyperbole. Some people would rather see a family starve than see someone they hate get a free lunch.

rockshrimp.bsky.social•21 hours ago

They’d rather their own family starve than see someone they don’t know get a free lunch.

rockshrimp.bsky.social•21 hours ago

Country settled by two kinds of religious fanatics (christianity and capitalism)

bencates.bsky.social•21 hours ago

This would feel more like an explanation if the people who purported to be fanatics were actually good at doing either of those things.

jamarcusisraw.bsky.social•21 hours ago

Millennia of religious study isn't compelling enough to convince you that fanaticism is in no way correlated to skill?

cyanidentity.bsky.social•21 hours ago

Maybe. I'd like them to at least, one singular solitary time in my lifetime at the very least, ACTUALLY FUCKING TRY

Literally once. Like without IMMEDIATELY kneecapping it ON THEIR OWN without ANY R input needed as they try to hallucinate some world where they'll get what they put on the table

rockshrimp.bsky.social•21 hours ago

They did try. It got us the ACA which saved millions of lives and doomed us in the 2010 elections and we’ve been paying for it instead of being able to improve it ever since.

cyanidentity.bsky.social•21 hours ago

Again, from what I've read they kneecapped it before it got to the table because "we won't be able to pass single payer" or public option or whatever the original was. Instead they picked up the Heritage Foundation plan and started doing the tweak around the edges nonsense they always do

rockshrimp.bsky.social•21 hours ago

The public option was in there until Lieberman promised to sink it. Blame him. Blame Democrats for only having 60 votes exactly.

saintthejase.bsky.social•21 hours ago

Means testing is there to actively discourage people with hurdles.
And odds are it’s cheaper to not bother with it most of the time

bobooten.bsky.social•21 hours ago

Democrats are there to manage the left not implement progressive policy

vegan3.bsky.social•21 hours ago

I don’t want your freaking stupid healthcare.

sknowsthatp.bsky.social•10 hours ago

From a state that has never had full access to the ACA bc it’s still suing not to provide it, let me say you have no idea how right you are

elmo2.bsky.social•21 hours ago

Do the dumbos realize people are cheering the guy who shot an insurance CEO? Its not because they like that hes Italian, we have a screwed up health care system that makes terrible social and economic sense, just like the police and fire resources, socializing them makes the best sense