I absolutely believe you are correct, but what I can't figure out is "why?" Musk is the richest man, Trump controls the most powerful military. Destabilizing the US risks destroying their own power. Logic says build on that base, not destroy and hope to gain more. - ThreadSky

brazenchariot.bsky.social • 22 days ago

I absolutely believe you are correct, but what I can't figure out is "why?"
Musk is the richest man, Trump controls the most powerful military. Destabilizing the US risks destroying their own power. Logic says build on that base, not destroy and hope to gain more.

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playwhatyoulove.bsky.social•22 days ago

I think they want to turn the USA into another Russia. Basically a kind of pariah internationally, feared, with average citizens working for horrible wages, but the oligarchs able to live large - obscenely large.

dredecopp.bsky.social•22 days ago

Destroying relationships with their closest allies weakens the US which is all part of Putin's plan.

annthegolfnut.bsky.social•22 days ago

Because Putin ordered him to.

azhothead.bsky.social•22 days ago

Billionaires have only two goals here. To own everything and control everything and keep you down so they can continue to own and control everything.

mjaum.bsky.social•22 days ago

The impression is that they don’t really understand any power beyond the personal. Building up systems that can be used by others is of no interest. Only what they themselves can grab. And with only four years left, they have entered the «break everything and cash out» part of the buyout.

onedayinjune.bsky.social•22 days ago

People keep bringing up Hitler and the Nazis as comparisons, but this particular aspect of what's emerging has more in common with African dictators like Mobutu or Bokassa.

mjaum.bsky.social•22 days ago

I believe that is a very correct comparison.

mellionj.bsky.social•22 days ago

Interesting juxtaposition! Hadn't considered...

poptart2nd.bsky.social•22 days ago

fascism isn't an ideology that relies on facts and logical inferences too much. as nationalists, they have a very specific idea of what the US should look like, and a peaceful, multicultural empire ruling through soft power isn't it.

baryonicbeing.bsky.social•22 days ago

My guess is that Musk wants to collapse the cost structure of the US (high cost developed country) to bring it more in line w/ China and then start competing from there. He stated on X that it would take about 2 years to come out of it, which is absurd. Economic collapse is decades.

baryonicbeing.bsky.social•22 days ago

In short, he thinks he can collapse the US political economy and revive it along his own preferred lines within a single presidential term. He'll do the first part at least.

matociquala.bsky.social•22 days ago

For Musk, accelerationism and the belief that if he owns a government or two it will let him fuck off into space and live forever. For Trump, petty revenge and the illusion of his own brilliance. For the Christian dominionists, isolationist theocracy. For the libertarians, ??profit??

billjank.bsky.social•22 days ago

Libertarians are at their core feudalists; they just think that they will be wealthy and powerful enough to be the lord rather than the serf.

kimphilbywasbad.bsky.social•22 days ago

They’d all rather be in control of a small weak purified nation than be just one part of a large strong mixed one

jdaviswriter.bsky.social•22 days ago

And every bit of this will fall apart as they 'win' because eventually the in-fighting will begin and pretty much the planet will descend into chaos until they're dead and gone.

lenriendeau.bsky.social•22 days ago

Can't happen too soon.

thejefty.bsky.social•22 days ago

Not really fond of the "planet descending into chaos" part.

jdaviswriter.bsky.social•22 days ago

Same.

chrisnielsen.bsky.social•22 days ago

Hey if you want to live in a failed state there are plenty to choose from without creating a new one. I hear real estate is cheap in Mogadishu.

lenriendeau.bsky.social•21 days ago

Mogadishu is not a country. It's a city. But,hey, it still looks better than Washington or Ottawa.

chrisnielsen.bsky.social•21 days ago

Yeah I do know that

chadwalsh.bsky.social•22 days ago

And don’t forget about “the Rapture”

antonpnym.bsky.social•22 days ago

Trump is a narcissistic sociopath with poor impulse control. He doesn't have long term plans, really, just persistent ideas. He bankrupted his own casino.

Don't count on a lot of foresight from him.

anneleise.bsky.social•22 days ago

This 100 and his brain is melting, he's being curated.

antonpnym.bsky.social•22 days ago

He really is the idiot with a pen that the GOP ideologues have been touting as the ideal candidate for the past few decades

antonpnym.bsky.social•22 days ago

For Musk, power is a relative measure and it doesn't matter if he loses some if everyone else loses more.

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