This is easy for much of the US market, but it by and large cuts you off from the global south and diaspora communities. Any strategy to create a long-term shift needs to be engineered specifically with those communities in mind, both in terms of resource requirements and design. - ThreadSky

grumplicio.us • 51 days ago

This is easy for much of the US market, but it by and large cuts you off from the global south and diaspora communities. Any strategy to create a long-term shift needs to be engineered specifically with those communities in mind, both in terms of resource requirements and design.

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I find it rather freeing to decide that I’m 100% done with being nice about it when people continue to merrily use and defend Mark Zuckerberg’s blood-stained products.

Yeah, I know leaving is hard and complicated and takes time and persuasion.

I also know it’s not impossible.

So start doing it.

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faineg.bsky.social•50 days ago

Yes, I’m fully aware - I spend much of my time in countries that Meta has fully parasitized, and I was reporting on the rise of social media and Meta in Southeast Asia back in the early 2010s. I still think it’s very much time we start working hard on finding other solutions.

faineg.bsky.social•50 days ago

It’s going to be difficult but I’m also not willing to just let Zuck control global discourse forever.

grumplicio.us•50 days ago

I agree, just saying that many of the things people commonly push as alternatives don't actually fulfill the needs of people outside the US. That infra needs to get built before a clean break w/ Meta doesn't isolate oneself from international communities (or push people to worse shit like Telegram)

grumplicio.us•50 days ago

I'm reasonably hopeful a combination of apps in the Fedi/Bsky/Signal ecosystem can get there eventually, but only if global north nerds start designing with people other than themselves in mind, including the unsexy parts that enable commerce in the developing world.

grumplicio.us•51 days ago

E.g., good luck telling the half the world to move from WhatsApp to Signal when one works on 2G and is used for real-world payments while the other does some nerd shit called "MobileCoins"

redskyforge.bsky.social•50 days ago

Oh come on, there are tons of digital payment systems in the developing world, ever heard of M-PESA? this is a ridiculous argument

grumplicio.us•50 days ago

Yeah I've literally worked on M-PESA integrations, it is not remotely a WhatsApp replacement given a) no presence in LATAM or India and b) the whole thing where they have no meaningful data privacy rules and assist with extrajudicial killings

redskyforge.bsky.social•50 days ago

You seem to be arguing there are no technological replacements for Meta apps in the developing world, it’s an absurd argument even considering the network effects because there are lots of apps that do the same things already out there. It’s just defeatism

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