Why would you believe anything from this Administration? All they do is lie and cover each other's asses. ALL of them are corrupt. They are the worst failings of our species, all together.
Itβs more like 300,000 lost jobs due to migrant worker harassment, CDC, NIH, Federal Employees, Researchers, University Teachers,
IRS, Social Security office closures, USAID workers, ect.
Plus Trump has tanked the Dow 4000 pts since elected to office!
Well believing this in an administration, without laughing and acknowledging the joke you just said, sorta gives anything they produce legitimacy. Yeah they released job numbers today. Iβm thinking they are lying. I know they are lying. Those arenβt job numbers. Itβs like a test. An integrity test.
You canβt believe anything. They are resetting the zero on the deficit also. Itβs like you taking your credit card debt and resetting it to zero on your own and saying youβre debt free.
He also said Democrats were going to cut Medicare and Medicaid. He said Canada imposes a 250%-300% tariff on our dairy products. Said the Great Depression was BECAUSE we moved AWAY from tariffs. π΅βπ«
Name the game. "Those trying to understand the tariffs as economic policy are dangerously naive. No, the tariffs are a tool to collapse our democracy. A means to compel loyalty from every business that will need to petition Trump for relief." - Chris Murphy (read his summary below)
My theory is the people who are unemployed can't find a job that pays enough to survive. Those jobs that are available are minimum wage. What do the rest of you think?
That's the part I don't understand either Adam. Lutnick has floated the idea of manip govt stats already.
Financial press woefully unready for this moment.
Same with rest of MSM.
Great... more jobs... whoo hoo. Too bad that minimum wage hasn't gone up but prices continue to rise. People now have to work multiple jobs to pay rent. I wonder if there is a correlation.
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3 Wikipedia pages are needed to track Trump lies someone needs to do a story on THAT. Especially since it's really bugging Dum-Dum and Leon. They are actively quietly trying to buy or somehow get rid of Wikipedia.
The only reason I believe the numbers is that states haven't had a huge amount of unemployment claims yet, and because Trump/Musk need lower interest rates because they're so strung out in debt.
Keeping jobs numbers up won't encourage the Fed to lower rates, especially with tariffs raising prices.
You wouldnβt. Loyal government workers. No threat from DOJ or LEO. A president who lies even when heβs just preparing to talk. You shouldnβt believe anything the right wing says.
Except we literally donβt have the amount of people necessary to fill those positions. Florida is so desperate that theyβre bringing back child labor hoping that all the horrible parents will force their kids to work for basic necessities.
Because theyβre not from the administration. These jobs numbers are correct but consider it the calm before the storm. It also clearly shows the economy Joe Biden left him with.
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I was really surprised by the announcement on LinkedIn today because itβs so out of left field. A surge in job payrolls less all of the recent firings of Federal employees is probably a net negative.
I keep saying that about poll ratings. They spent 25mil on an election. Youβre want me to believe they arenβt finding ways to warp ratings? There is no way that 45% of Americans STILL think Trump is doing great.
I think a few MAGAs have already seen the light, but it will take massive amounts of personally experienced pain for a substantial number to have the epiphany. A feature of conservatism in general, and MAGA in particular, is a lack of empathy. Others getting evicted, being denied health care, etc. /
Youβre probably right. I just feel like more people would have realized they have personally been hurt by this point. Then again it has only been 3 months. I think i may be over estimating how many people are legitimately in a cult mentality and likely wonβt be snapping out of it for a while.
...won't phase them. "Me" experiencing those things makes "me" pay attention. Yet even then, I doubt his approval ratings will drop much below 40%. Cult members will blame everyone but Trump and the compliant GOP congress. Bigly sad.
We shouldnβt believe anything this administration says. Itβs all a lie. I canβt think of one truthful thing thatβs been said since Trump took over.
I donβt think we can trust that or any of the economic indicators any longer. If they are reporting the data, it would be true. Hopefully people will believe their wallets, bank accounts, stories from friends
Those numbers Trump used in his charts were not about tariffs. They showed trade surpluses.
No actual economist would be so fucking stupid as to buy into this math-ainβt mathinβ shit. MAGAts will, though.
Our media should be horsewhipped, publicly.
Wilbur Ross, in season of of Fake Billionaire President, the guy who broke the laws by not putting his investments in trust while serving, "estimated, inflation, GDP, unemployment" for four years.
That had never happened before and no one called him out.
The ppl who got laid off had to fight for unemployment bc of the "poor performance" lie. Those weren't newly created jobs. Those were jobs filled by recently "fired" federal workers who can make more in the private sector anyway and didn't want, or could't afford, to do battle with the UE office.
ADP came in like 100k fewer, but they aren't tracking the same thing. Doge impact on BLS won't really hit until we get the next report. Of course, by then, who will be authoring the BLS?
Or really anythingβ¦I mean they are trying to pass a budget that will give a giant tax cut to the rich and intend to say it wonβt cost anything. Back here in reality it most certainly will.
Why would we believe anything from this administration? It's sad when we can no longer trust the government. Maybe that is part of their play. They want to destroy the government and therefore America.
In his first term, Trump fired the last BLS commissioner five days after he got a 20,000 job growth report. Replaced him with a Heritage Foundation economist. Watch how DOGE deals with the BLS. https://apoenian.org/TrumpsJobReports1.htm
I agree. I thought those # looked a odd considering the huge purge in the Government sector. Just wait! When the Tariffs hitting the smaller business ..their employees will join the unemployed..that rate is now 4.2%..up from 2024
All of the numbers for the next four years will be cooked. That is a given. The layoffs were designed to not conflict with the first jobs report, the next report will also be a lie, but it will be dismal.
It has started like this in Turkey. Nowadays we have much more trouble. Your yellow-head president is a close friend of ours. Democracy is collapsing everywhere.
We shouldn't. I don't believe anything that comes out of this administration. Over 30,000 lies in the first administration, I think that this administration will be double that.
I was researching the same yesterday. My best guess is when they had to rehire federal employees, some of the applicants may have withdrawn their unemployment claim? But we do not have real numbers based on real data anymore. Truth is a thing of the past.
Don't be like that. The states department of labor report weekly unemployment numbers to USDoL, and those weekly totals are reported in aggregate in the monthly reports.
It was the same under Obama as Trump, as Biden, as Trump. Please don't demonize union workers in state agencies.
The buy-out made it easy to conceal the real numbers. If you took the buy-out, you cannot file for unemployment, despite being unemployed. The report said federal employment only dropped by 15,000. Yet, over 80,000 were laid off just at the VA alone. They're only counting those on unemployment.
Do you mean that they can never file for unemployment or that they cannot file until their severance stops being paid? Will they ever show up as unemployed?
They won't show up as unemployed because they will completely detach from the labor market. Unemployment Insurance only reports initial claim filings each week combined with continued claims for weekly benefits. They won't show up because there is no place to count them.
It depends. If you accept a severance, you're technically not laid-off unless the agreement states you were. These weren't. They were given a choice. Severance or lay-off. They also used the language "poor performance". That's considered "for cause".
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So sad to see all these people dismissing the data for being from "this administration". The jobs info come from the very type of career professionals that we have been defending from people like Musk, only to now behave like Musk himself and baselessly declare these figures to be faked.
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Did you see Labor Secretary this morning on CNBC?β¦.She sounded as fake as the report.
IRS, Social Security office closures, USAID workers, ect.
Plus Trump has tanked the Dow 4000 pts since elected to office!
Accusations are confessions.
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I fact we shouldn't believe any claims from this administration that cannot be independently verified.
Financial press woefully unready for this moment.
Same with rest of MSM.
https://intellizence.com/insights/layoff-downsizing/major-companies-that-announced-mass-layoffs/
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Keeping jobs numbers up won't encourage the Fed to lower rates, especially with tariffs raising prices.
Could the mass deportations/fear mongering of this administration have created job openings that are oftentimes filled by undocumented workers?
Some of the bigger job gains were in nursing/residential care and couriers/messengers. If so, this bump wont last for long.
I always thought if he went ahead with the mass deportations, he would either rely on red states using child labor, inmates, and the unhoused.
Then if that didn't work, he'd just throw the undocumented in "camps" and use them for totally free labor.
Because that would probably break all the job records.
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Not human jobs.
I'd like some whistleblower at the Bureau of Labor Statistics tell us the details of how the statistics have been fudged.
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Trump wants every important source of government statistical data that will embarrass him - totally quashed.
Like always, Trump will continue to manufacture his own data, at will, when an occasion arises.
No actual economist would be so fucking stupid as to buy into this math-ainβt mathinβ shit. MAGAts will, though.
Wilbur Ross, in season of of Fake Billionaire President, the guy who broke the laws by not putting his investments in trust while serving, "estimated, inflation, GDP, unemployment" for four years.
That had never happened before and no one called him out.
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Fixed it.
https://apoenian.org/TrumpsJobReports1.htm
Their layoffs are coming.
It was the same under Obama as Trump, as Biden, as Trump. Please don't demonize union workers in state agencies.
Severance normally is reported as one lump sum on the first benefit week, typically causing inelgibility for that week due to Excess Earnings.
So sad to see all these people dismissing the data for being from "this administration". The jobs info come from the very type of career professionals that we have been defending from people like Musk, only to now behave like Musk himself and baselessly declare these figures to be faked.