Microsoft has announced "Cooperative Vectors" API to get tensor core support for normal shading/compute shaders. This is hopefully going to kickstart development usage of faster machine learning in game graphics. But how about MegaGeometry? This is a huge (positive) change vs. standard DXR. - ThreadSky

dachsjaeger.bsky.social • 138 days ago

Microsoft has announced "Cooperative Vectors" API to get tensor core support for normal shading/compute shaders. This is hopefully going to kickstart development usage of faster machine learning in game graphics. But how about MegaGeometry? This is a huge (positive) change vs. standard DXR.

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h7per.bsky.social•135 days ago

Even outside of neural uses: Basically any FP16 MatMul operation should benefit, unless there will only be some very limiting abstractions around that.

kron123456789.bsky.social•137 days ago

Did Nvidia managed to jump on the early bandwagon of Machine learning and AI or did they create this hype train in the first place? I'm not sure anymore.

dachsjaeger.bsky.social•137 days ago

It is both, with them trying to produce the "killer apps" for it that make the hype take in the minds of users. DLSS for example.

kron123456789.bsky.social•137 days ago

Either way, what we got is Nvidia dominating in this space and like 3-5 years ahead of the competition. The problem with that is not just Nvidia setting the price as high as they want, so we get $1k-$2k GPUs, but it also slows down the adoption rate of all of this amazing tech.

h7per.bsky.social•135 days ago

I guarantee you that this isn't just some Nvidia thing. GPUs have gotten a lot more expensive to produce. The full GB202 die is going to be in the neighborhood of 300-400 dollars per die alone. That's zero memory, cooler, power delivery, PCB etc etc. Also R&D.

h7per.bsky.social•135 days ago

(the price figure has been derived by entering the die measurements into a wafer yield calculator and upper and lower bound are governed by 0.05 and 0.1 defects per cm^2 respectively and a wafer price of $15000)

h7per.bsky.social•135 days ago

That is not to say they don't profit greatly right now, the cards might well be a bit cheaper if there was more competition, but prices that a lot of people these things "should cost" just aren't gonna happen. 1080ti times are frankly over.

eathdemom.bsky.social•134 days ago

I assume it will work, admiditly slower, on 20/30/40 serries as well, or locked to the 50 serries gpus?

sininu.bsky.social•138 days ago

What is megageometry? I have only seen the name mentioned so far...

internetofgames.bsky.social•137 days ago

https://youtu.be/5PHBXY0FI5o?si=MTYkckGwzDMp2QNu

sininu.bsky.social•137 days ago

Thank!

internetofgames.bsky.social•137 days ago

There is also a blog, and papers extending backwards, but because it's a broad channel it might just be easier to wait until Alex puts together his module. It's beautiful.

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