Just had a look at his constituency and there are three universities within spitting distance that would fit his description. The impact of just one of those closing would be huge.
he's got a point about integration, in that Blue Labour people have failed to integrate with modern British society, placing them at great risk of radicalisation. We probably need a Prevent pathway for people who quote Maurice Glasman approvingly
Just thick. He is literally saying the state should let, e.g., UCLAN go bust rather than let in more intl students. That's certainly getting the state to take a much more active role in shaping Lancashire's economy mate, but not sure anyone in Preston or Burnley would thank you for that afterwards!
I think the thing I loathe the most about these utterly fake cosplayer conservative Blue Labour types is that they seem to have so little recognition or appreciation for the value of some things our modern economy *does* have, just because they're sniffy about the cultural vibe of them sometimes
Don'tpretend somewhere like UCLAN going under wouldn't be the 21st C equiv of the mines closing. If anything it'd be more devastating as the failure of a knowledge/service economy anchor. How do you think Preston regenerates easily from that mate? New brickies apprentice course at the local college?
Just fuck off and stop pretending you offer any wisdom for what a more active state could do for economies in left-behind areas. You're a 33yo Oxford grad posturing as a salt of the earth traditionalist. Your idea for economic success is telling kids to fill staff shortages rather than go to uni
Amazing how fast this stuff bounces back & forth between Trump's nutters & the right wing over here. One minute, it's El Salvador & US sweatshops, the next it's, we'll maybe Rwanda wasn't so bad & smash uni's cos I don't like foreigners & I want poor people to lay bricks.
As a UCLAN graduate I can definitely confirm that them going bust would be like setting off the economic equivalent of a nuclear bomb in the City Centre and the fallout would destroy the surrounding area.
The universities and the NHS were pretty much the main engine that got places like Sheffield through the 90s after the Tories screwed over the coal and steel industries. Now *Labour* want to come back and finish us off? Into the North Sea with them.
I keep thinking surely this Govt won’t let anchor employers implode anywhere let alone in our places and yet they are like lol can’t do anything about that. Regulator cares more about culture war than saving communities
I would like to think it would only take the impending failure of one to jolt them into the action to not allow it to happen - or at worst, the actual failure of one to make them realise it would be a national catastrophe to allow local catastrophes like that to become a series
There is no such thing as a person who is Blue Labour by conviction. There are only performative bores who cosplay as a caricature of Leave voters because they are deeply insecure about how middle class and privileged they are. These are not serious people
I've said it before and I'll say it again: if Hinder’s theory of politics had even the slightest thing going for it, Rishi Sunak would have been the most popular prime minister of the last century and would have won a landslide majority in 2024
Honestly I've swung around to seeing large chunks of capital-L Labourism as basically parasitic these days, they rely on actually existing civil society to get anywhere politically and then constantly whinge and lash out at it because it's always too this or not enough that
Hinder is an extreme case who will lose his seat even if Labour are comfortably re-elected next time, but I think this idea that they're somehow better than the people and organisations actually getting them elected explains both the worst parts of Corbynism and the worst parts of this government
They are cosplaying representatives of a movement which no longer exists and mostly feel self-loathing about the movement they are actually elected to represent
He has a small majority in a seat held by the Tories from 1950-2024 which was 63% for Brexit and is significantly worse educated than the national average - how many of his thick as pigshit voters do you think care about universities?
This Labour intake is full of unserious people & need to be gone after 2028/9. Imagine Teesside Uni going for Boro, Darlington etc. We've literally built an entire lab & office park around their campus in Darlington & is key part of wider Regen around the station. Mans a fucking idiot
One university he presumably doesn’t think needs shuttering is his Alma mater - yes yet another Oxbridge graduate playing man of the people (see also Maurice ‘it’s tough up North London’ Glasman)
Id say two things:
First , universities should be funded from general taxation not rely on funding from overseas students.
Second, that a conversation needs to be had about whether it is worthwhile changing some Universities back into technical colleges as in the days of polytechnics.
💯 point. My dad was academic staff at a very good technical college. The principal decided he wanted an upgrade to his status (about sums up the situation). Dad and nearly all colleagues protested strongly. Needless to say they lost. That new university, in a city with an existing top RG uni, had to
add the city name because nobody had heard of it. Another successful city technical college did this in the 60s I think: it’s taken decades to build a new reputation. The cast, in order of appearance: Napier College, University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh Napier University, and Heriot-Watt University.
I think we should be rightly proud of the fact that we are among the top 10 nations of the world for tertiary education numbers, however I do have to question the form that has taken since the end of polytechnics.
We have huge shortgages in some professions which universities just arent meeting.
How is this supposed to appeal to anyone? Like is his actual argument that standing in front of voters and announcing you've shut down UCLan will lead to rapturous applause? Does anyone actually think voters want universities to shut
Something something fake visa courses chunter chortle well what's really the value of a degree from UCLAN at the end of the day. Dunno mate, maybe not much sometimes, but willing to bet quite a few have resoundingly opened up career paths and earnings they couldn't have accessed without that degree
oh thats a line from Rachel Reeves, back before corbyn. Labour seen as the party of benefits. This is a bad thing to imagine for the middle manager/hr slop only had two holidays abroad as a kid, dads car was new every year, leased, little salaryman wankers currently running the alleged workers party
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Coz I can't get a competent ones where I live.
I don't mind DIY but do I really need to be an expert at everything?
No wonder the lad hates youth
Majority of 903.
But I was able to avoid being a racist thick cunt so
He needs to say exactly which unis (and therefore which towns and cities) he's happy to throw to the wolves.
Sorry but that's the only thing Preston has going for it
see also https://bsky.app/profile/euanritchie.bsky.social/post/3lnzdbyadks2p
First , universities should be funded from general taxation not rely on funding from overseas students.
Second, that a conversation needs to be had about whether it is worthwhile changing some Universities back into technical colleges as in the days of polytechnics.
We have huge shortgages in some professions which universities just arent meeting.