8 crashes and 1 near miss since trump fired the FAA director, but who's counting?
I know that I repeat myself but this is serious. I'm flying in October and just wonder if I need a Rosary.
95% air traffic controllers are White!
The problem is 25% lack of staff.
90% of all airports do not have the mandated FAA staff numbers!
They use Windows 10 2015
Bradley in CT 20 controllers should be 25!
They just fired in training under 2 years probation employees.
Reports are conflicting - the wind may have been gusting when they landed. Pilot might have been past the point where they could abort when the wind picked up. 3 critical injuries but "none life-threatening". not sure
I can't stand the guy, but how is this the orange menace's fault? This happened in Toronto, Canada. Unless air traffic controllers fired in Buffalo had something to do with it, I don't know how we can blame him. Trust me - I'd love to blame him.
I’ll help you… reductions in staff at NOAA, was weather report accurate for aviation. If mechanical, did FAA provide the necessary oversight?
Only completely not his fault if it is ALL the fault of Toronto ATC. Which also controls part of Michigan airspace.
I think because the plane may have had maintenance issues in the US due to cuts? I know the weather here is horrible right now and I’m wondering why flights weren’t cancelled .I think weather was most of the factors in this
I don't believe you with all due respect. If you're truly interested in saving our Democracy, everything is his damn fault. We are no longer doing algebra to justify. This is 2 plus 2 which means every thing that goes wrong is his fault unless you can prove otherwise.
But it happened in Canada. I don't care if you don't believe me. That's your prerogative. But we lose credibility if we blame all the ills on that ass.
The FAA does a lot more than traffic control, they're responsible for all aspects of aviation safety. This includes inspecting equipment. If there's no FAA to make sure you checked the landing gear, people are less likely to do the inspections properly.
This was a weather-caused incident (very high winds, icy tarmac, blowing sleet) at a Canadian airport (Toronto). Nothing about this situation could have been preventable by US standards or lack of them.
The dumbing down of white men is easy to see - they’re glued to their televisions or devices watching Fox News, Newsmax or OAN for hours in each day or on media posting nonsense
Not doing anything productive - learning nothing new - low energy, gullible simpletons
I suspect you're saying this tongue-in-cheek Art Candee, as this is not a DEI thing. Cdn TSB & FAA are investigating the cause, but DEI has nothing to do with this accident. The Pearson Airport is known for its excellence in all aspects of how it's run, including air traffic control, emergencies...
How do you figure plane crashes are in any way related to DEI? Like, where is this assumption coming from? Are we jumping to conclusions or is this based on evidence?
Not sure 60km/hr gusts could cause such a rollover? My first thought was rear landing gear issue and a belly landing (front gear is obv in place, as pictured).
This actually happened in Toronto however, news reports are that mechanical failure of some sort on the aircraft led to a “hard landing”. Very symbolic of what can be expected in the future if Trump/musk idiocy is allowed to continue.
It was an American Airlines and it doesn’t look like this was the fault of the air traffic controllers. I wonder what happened for the pilot to land the plane upside down?
We have had the most terrible storms in Ontario for the last 3 or 4 days with high winds. There are reports a high wind gust flipped the plane on the runway after landing.
Yes. This storm is continuing into tomorrow with snow squall warnings, up to 50 cm more snow and very cold temps.
I haven't seen this much snow since 1960. We don't know where to put it anymore!
This doesn't appear to be a DEI issue since it's in Canada and happened while landing. But yes, FAA needs its qualified people back, no matter their race, gender or anything else.
Right, but the pilot was hired long before this DEI crap happened, and it could be that it was weather or the runway that contributed. No messenger killing here, but we need to be careful to blame Trump/Musk when appropriate to maintain our own credibility in the Resistance.
The incredible stress I am under as a retired individual is nothing compared to the reign of terror they are causing across the country to federal and private employees. So let’s concentrate on that and them instead of nitpicking one another. Thanks.
Everyone please take a deep breath.
Stop using DEI as a slur or clap back.
Preliminary reports and ATC audio advised strong winds with a “side bump”. This has nothing to do with race or gender.
Retired F/A. I was a flight attendant on this type of aircraft CRJ900 and similar to the aircraft that was hit by the helicopter a CRJ700. Heartbroken that these accidents are taking place everyday. They have always been safe aircrafts, maintenance is done nightly and crew is trained 100%.
You don’t want diversity?
So you want uniformity - one same person.
You don’t want equity?
So you want favoritism and prejudice.
You don’t want inclusion?
So you want exclusion, division, & omission.
The anti DEI folks need to just put on a Klan outfit already.
Equity has, and will continue to be, a goal of humanity. But it can't be at the expense of judging in the extremes. Classifying anti-DEI as only Klan in disguise, seems an extreme judgement. And it impairs dialogue.
IMO, we excel when there is no prejudice both in our circles, and outside.
When u look at videos of landing , , was the pilot hammered drunk , he hit the ground so hard he snapped the wing off , I hope the pilot slept that one off to fly again in the USA
It would be beneficial if an authority could post the effect sustained stress has on the brain & relate it to the 7 recent plane accidents & 3 railway accidents. Usually you have 1 stressed person on a team surrounded by those who brought their A game. Now we have full layers of stressed-out people.
40 years ago, the biggest music stars in the world came together.
Contact Kendrick Lamar and encourage him to pull together a celebration of the power, creativity and the power of collective humanity to do the same to save our country, our democracy, and the world.
There is so much actual bad shit going on. Like Trump helping Putin and Elon taking over US government offices. This crash is not on Trump. It was in Canada, on an icy runway with high wind gusts. We need to focus our attention.
Experts will decide on the cause. But it was a damn hard hit to the landing. They’ve mentioned wind (nothing new in aviation), the aircraft could withstand much stronger wind force than the conditions.
It’s a miracle people walked away. Applaud the crew who managed that.
I don’t understand how making sure there’s no discrimination means that people are being hired who aren’t qualified. Apparently it makes sense to the poorly educated maga crowd. Yikes come on
I’m not a conspiracy theorist. But today I read that Trump is talking about handing the FAA over to Musk and SpaceX. So, maybe they are making things bad right now so we’ll be on board with Musk taking over America’s aviation? I hate that I’m thinking like this.
I floated this idea one other time. I think we ALL need to mail postcards to OUR Representatives. Emails are too easy to delete, postcards take up space, time, and they might even be looked at. Overwhelm them! If half the country voted for this fool, the other half should bombard them with cards.
Side thought.
Why are people leaving with bags? Aren't you supposed to get out as fast as you can and leave things behind in a plane #emergency ?
#Delta #PlaneCrash
They are gutting departments to appear like they are cutting waste, so they can give tax breaks to the rich. Really, they are just doing what shitty corporations do-- cut workers to give themselves more $. The government is not a business!!! It is there to help ppl!!!
Canadian here.. 40 mins north of this airport.
We have had terrible weather loads of snow and very high winds today. Just guessing here, but could it have been a strong down burst that flipped this slow moving plane? 🤷♀️
I’ve never seen a plane upside down before!
Yes. Thanks for saying that, as a Chicagoan so I could say the same thing about O'Hare. But that was O'Hare BEFORE Musk and his co-president Cheeto took over.
This happened in Toronto CANADA. The DEI boogeyman stupidity of Trump would have no chance of reaching the Canadian version of the flight controllers and in fact would be against Canadian Human Rights.
This was either a wind gust or a pilot error
Why is no one talking about GPS Spoofing & Chris Wray’s warning about Chinese hardware/software in our infrastructure because we don’t assemble our products w/trustworthy ppl; just the cheapest ones.
Absolutely Agree!
Dump traitor Trump et al
We demand democracy!
They swore an oath to preserve, protect & defend
NOT Defund!!
Impeach NOW!
202-224-3121
I half expect Elon to announce a revolutionary new form of air transportation that's just balloons tied to a Cybertruck as he continues to butcher the FAA leading to more accidents like this.
So everyone remember when the flight crew says to keep your seatbelts on until the plane has arrived and has come to a complete stop...listen to them. In Canada it's illegal to arrive at the airport ahead of the plane you've just arrived on.
Latest crash is in Toronto Canada, and we do not have an idiot firing everyone in this country. However we are enduring days of severe weather and wind shear.
Not necessarily. There can be changing conditions on the ground that aren't always predictable, or shared to other nav centres. The Canadian Transportation Safety Board is all over this already and unless we hear otherwise, is not the fault of the FAA.
I'm curious if the government has stopped enforcement of the ADA? I know 🍊 🤡 doesn't like being seen with disabled folks, ridicules them, and partially blamed disabled folks for the 1st plane crash. I don't think he has anybody on staff in FL with disabilities. He's that shallow.
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It's not longer safe to fly.
I know that I repeat myself but this is serious. I'm flying in October and just wonder if I need a Rosary.
The problem is 25% lack of staff.
90% of all airports do not have the mandated FAA staff numbers!
They use Windows 10 2015
Bradley in CT 20 controllers should be 25!
They just fired in training under 2 years probation employees.
Get RID of MAGA.
GET Rid of Elon Nazi Musk
Get Rid of Donald Felon Trump.
You don't even know anything about the crew.
Also gusting to 35.
Pane originated in Minn.
Only completely not his fault if it is ALL the fault of Toronto ATC. Which also controls part of Michigan airspace.
That said, Trump gutting the FAA is literally going to kill hundreds or thousands of people.
Not doing anything productive - learning nothing new - low energy, gullible simpletons
Expect more damage
But “DEI”
https://youtu.be/0WtebEotyMk?...
And sadly, his cult members will fall for every word of it.
I haven't seen this much snow since 1960. We don't know where to put it anymore!
The incredible stress I am under as a retired individual is nothing compared to the reign of terror they are causing across the country to federal and private employees. So let’s concentrate on that and them instead of nitpicking one another. Thanks.
But it's owned & operated by an American airline, which is what I was referring to
Stop using DEI as a slur or clap back.
Preliminary reports and ATC audio advised strong winds with a “side bump”. This has nothing to do with race or gender.
https://youtu.be/tqrymzg2NSY?si=LE2JQCF03xC9Y4wq
Air travel isn’t safe without DEI! 🤬
weather.
I like how they study in great detail
what went wrong.
It's a pity they don't do that with recent assassination attempts.
Grateful this one wasn’t worse.
So you want uniformity - one same person.
You don’t want equity?
So you want favoritism and prejudice.
You don’t want inclusion?
So you want exclusion, division, & omission.
The anti DEI folks need to just put on a Klan outfit already.
IMO, we excel when there is no prejudice both in our circles, and outside.
Viva la DEI!
"People treated by female doctors tend to have better health outcomes, study finds"
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/people-treated-by-female-doctors-tend-to-have-better-health-outcomes-study-finds?utm_source=chatgpt.com
Canada.
This new regime is swell
Contact Kendrick Lamar and encourage him to pull together a celebration of the power, creativity and the power of collective humanity to do the same to save our country, our democracy, and the world.
https://youtu.be/9AjkUyX0rVw?si=rhFARaS-rvp5f9ce
It’s a miracle people walked away. Applaud the crew who managed that.
(Delete Trump Immediately) 😂
Just trying to channel Trump/MAGA thinking on DEI stretches.
No fatalities (yet), but the pilots, crew, and emergency response teams all did their jobs efficiently - prevented fires and panic.
Why are people leaving with bags? Aren't you supposed to get out as fast as you can and leave things behind in a plane #emergency ?
#Delta #PlaneCrash
Is that ice?
We have had terrible weather loads of snow and very high winds today. Just guessing here, but could it have been a strong down burst that flipped this slow moving plane? 🤷♀️
I’ve never seen a plane upside down before!
I keep telling everyone the winds are insane but also very unpredictable intense gusts.
Combine with heavy ice everywhere, white out conditions, bad combo.
My gut says corporate pushed them to fly despite the weather..
Like, upside down?!? That’s NUTz!! Can’t wait to hear what they have to say the reason is.
Thankfully, nobody was killed.
Got it.
The article, along with added extra links, is in this Bluesky thread. Tap above the 'article pic' and scroll ⏬
This was either a wind gust or a pilot error
But, we have no idea that this was ATC error.
Tim Scott has got to go!
Why is no one talking about GPS Spoofing & Chris Wray’s warning about Chinese hardware/software in our infrastructure because we don’t assemble our products w/trustworthy ppl; just the cheapest ones.
(The flight originated in Minnesota)
Awwwww, look! It wants its belly rubbed!”
Qualified workers at FAA have been fired!!
Dump traitor Trump et al
We demand democracy!
They swore an oath to preserve, protect & defend
NOT Defund!!
Impeach NOW!
202-224-3121
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/multiple-people-are-injured-delta-jet-incident-toronto-pearson-airport-rcna192508
As Biden said a few years ago: "This is not a normal court" and that the United States needed "a new path forward that is consistent with the law."
It's time to overturn this.