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peterstefanovic.bsky.social • 8 days ago

Labour must avoid ‘naive’ lurch to right after Reform success, Haigh warns

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/04/dont-lurch-right-after-reform-election-win-former-labour-minister-warns-pm

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rembetis.bsky.social•7 days ago

If they go any further right they will be Reform.

new-adham.bsky.social•8 days ago

I hope that the reform they are talking about has actually happened, and that they have begun to change their minds about the genocide we are being subjected to, and that they will take a serious and decisive stance to support us.

vulcress.bsky.social•7 days ago

Labour have been a shambles dealing with Farage because it would mean talking #brexit. The guy triggered this shambles yet walks around "nothing to do with me"
EVERY Single day #NHS plans #disabled plans #brexit shambles. EVERY DAY @teamlabouruk.bsky.social about Reform.

melonni.bsky.social•7 days ago

They are already on the right???????????????

bobbley.bsky.social•7 days ago

Absolutely, Labour needs to appeal to Labour voters, not cosying up to a rump of aging racists.

jonnyhayton93.bsky.social•8 days ago

They're already there ffs, labour are tories with a red rosette

towed-in-a-hole.bsky.social•8 days ago

A year ago, I'd have argued that point.

chrisarundel.bsky.social•7 days ago

“naive”?
Aping the policies of Nigel Farage and Kemi Badenoch isn’t naive. There’s no excuse for it.

independentmedia.bsky.social•7 days ago

Correct, don't move to the right, define your position and demonstrate why it's the moral and correct choice.

peteward2.bsky.social•8 days ago

The approach they have taken to Europe has already been influenced by Reform. Changing their red lines would be a bold first move - with added gain of up turn in the economy

horizon444.bsky.social•8 days ago

Are Labour in denial regarding their own lurch to the right since they've won the election?

They should look in the mirror.

plasticgoose.bsky.social•7 days ago

How about a not so naive lurch to the left? Might help as a Labour Government.

anniedorset.bsky.social•7 days ago

She is 💯 correct

billy500.bsky.social•8 days ago

Go further left. Youre making yourselves irrelevant by being right of centre.

hollybrigstocke.bsky.social•8 days ago

The Starmer regime's policy positions, behaviour, attitudes, comments, and history is hard to far right or enabling of it. Not just domestically but geopolitically too. They are irredeemable.

A manifesto and majority does not a mandate make under constitutional law i.e. they have *no* authority.

jpjansondecouet.bsky.social•8 days ago

Trolling the left is the only thing Labour care about.

grumpy-bloke.bsky.social•7 days ago

She's just trying to be relevant

naomihossain.bsky.social•8 days ago

People are behaving as though Labour have no choice, are being forced, to pitch right. But maybe they just really like it?

tsunami65.bsky.social•7 days ago

But lurch to the Reich is Labour policy

gryffgroff.bsky.social•7 days ago

They should try a lurch to the left. Even a small shift.

That might make them less Tory and closer to what the people actually hoped for…

abusefreezone.bsky.social•7 days ago

They’re introducing so many left wing policies, inc. min wage, free breakfast clubs, workers rights bill, extra free child care hours, nationalisation of rail, devolution of bus networks are just a few. WFA needed to be targeted, cut off should have been higher. Welfare overall needs looking at .

spck111.bsky.social•8 days ago

She’s right.

denistheman.bsky.social•8 days ago

And this nonsense https://bsky.app/profile/adambienkov.bsky.social/post/3lod6zukpxk2s

denistheman.bsky.social•8 days ago

Agree https://bsky.app/profile/13sarahmurphy.bsky.social/post/3lofvprfzwc2u

denistheman.bsky.social•8 days ago

Actually a native lurch to the left would make more sense

adamwisent.bsky.social•8 days ago

just one more reason, why decent rational thinking people.
Don't Vote for either the #Conservatives & #ToryshiteLiebour, or #Reform The establishments pillars of Britain's, politics of failure..

Meanwhile... over in the red #ToryShiteLiebour camp.

https://bsky.app/profile/labourlist.bsky.social/post/3lobcc7csjc2e

johncalma.bsky.social•7 days ago

They need to try lurching to the left first!

hollymcalpine.com•8 days ago

Bit late for that, isn’t it?

janetravis.bsky.social•8 days ago

Too late! Already happened, hence the council losses 🙄

janetravis.bsky.social•8 days ago

They should be advising to Uturn on their right wing policy choices and become the actual Labour Party, filling the gaping chasm on the left of U.K. politics

concerned-person.bsky.social•8 days ago

This incarnation is not able to do that. The party has fallen to bigotry. This incarnation can never be trusted. It's like voting Lib Dem while a single member from coalition years still exists. Puke.

janetravis.bsky.social•8 days ago

Totally. The writing was on the wall in The way these right wing Labour MPs behaved under the last leader. Utter traitors to the workers.

channingwalton.bsky.social•8 days ago

As should the people.

mikea57.bsky.social•7 days ago

She is right but whilst Labour strategists remain fixated on their purge of the left (extreme and centre) they fail to read the runes. They will lose more to the Greens and Lib Dems than they will win back from Reform.

greentree6.bsky.social•7 days ago

The right is taken, huge opening for the left.

hobbitswife.bsky.social•7 days ago

Yup, I vote center to left and Labour is neither.

sallycalverley.bsky.social•7 days ago

Labour aren’t recognisably a party of the left any more.

mrrobertbob.bsky.social•7 days ago

Stable doors and horses come to mind……

afanasiew.bsky.social•7 days ago

Labour has caved in to the massively funded right wing narrative and given up on the attempt to tell a different story - e.g. the truth.

lilybud.bsky.social•7 days ago

well said

azurevista.bsky.social•8 days ago

Sir Stooge has been installed to put Banker Farage in power.

And all those Labour MP's backing Sir Stooge better get ready to lose their seats in 2028.

trybetter.bsky.social•7 days ago

The only comment here I've fundamentally disagreed with
The idea that Starmer "has been installed to put Banker Farage in power" is crass & complete nonsense.

azurevista.bsky.social•7 days ago

You're entitled to your opinion. History will prove one of us right.

I'm genuinely interested in knowing why you think the BBC has been promoting Farage despite his electoral defeat after defeat.

trybetter.bsky.social•7 days ago

Because they've been desperate to provide a balanced view in the face of threats to defund. They also claim to have considered the actual number of votes cast as opposed to seats won.
As much as I'd like to, I don't believe BBC support Farage or have been "promoting" him.

azurevista.bsky.social•7 days ago

The BBC has never had a balanced view in its entire history.

1. It supported colonial violence against Pashtuns to such an extent that it inspired Hitler to create "lebensraum" (Source: The Nazis: A Warning From History episode 2)

2. It maintained blacklists for Socialists & trade unionists..

azurevista.bsky.social•7 days ago

while Conservatives and the Far-Right dominate the BBC at every level.

3. Farage has appeared on QT more than *anyone* else.

This can not simply be dismissed as the "BBC was seeking to provide ballance." Not even *elected officials* have appeared as many times as he has.

fringeobserver.bsky.social•7 days ago

Well as they lost seats to Libdems and Greens why would they lurch to the right as its the left that people voted for !

mrpattypats.bsky.social•7 days ago

Ah whoops, too late

laurence316.bsky.social•7 days ago

They already are fully lurched to the right ffs as soon as Sir Kid Starver became leader he was already moving to the right

andygait.bsky.social•8 days ago

"Must avoid"?

It's already doing it. You've got one MP blaming immigration, and another asking KS to take a leaf out of Trump's playbook.

johndlewis.bsky.social•7 days ago

How? It has already lurched almost as far as Reform.

prettyhatmachine.bsky.social•7 days ago

Too late.

Starmer has turned Labour into Milquetoast Reform.

battlscarredbear.bsky.social•7 days ago

Labour shouldn’t pander to fascism. Make fascism and right wing politics dangerous again, it is after all pure evil

sara-jayne.bsky.social•8 days ago

I’m sick of these mps like Louise. She can see the party speeding up towards the right. She’s said nothing as Wes has killed trans children. And rather than have a backbone we get this pathetic response to systemic murder amongst other things. If you’ve got morals, stand by them or shut up.

mikins.bsky.social•8 days ago

They won't because despite the last ten years and a forde report full of evidence to the contrary they still insist they can "change labour from the inside"

They're either deluded or lying to themselves and us.

suewhiterose.bsky.social•8 days ago

Whoever can get Starmer to actually listen needs to step up NOW!

iskragoch.bsky.social•7 days ago

Does she mean "further lurch to the right"?

towed-in-a-hole.bsky.social•8 days ago

They could perhaps stand up to him. Point out his lies, his simple solutions to complex problems idea, is bollocks.
Just a thought.

concerned-person.bsky.social•8 days ago

They're already so far to the right there's no room to lurch. How naive is that writer. Not recognising you are already the right shows how far to the right they are.

jonticklethecat.bsky.social•8 days ago

Too late for that.

cillacat.bsky.social•7 days ago

We did not vote for a Blue Labour so Starmer better get his principles sorted out. The Labour Party stands for so much not a mirror image of the Tories. We have seen what’s happened to them.

alizaadi.bsky.social•8 days ago

Too late - already happening

chap54.bsky.social•8 days ago

Labour isn’t a right wing party. It’s only chasing the wrong voters who don’t align with their core values and won’t vote for them anyway. It has to self- define not chase each rainbow. We’ll see.

moose-acker.bsky.social•7 days ago

I’m a lifelong Labour voter who aligned with core values but if I’m still around at the next election I’ll be assessing the performance over 4 years. Never voting Tory or Reform though

markyd119.bsky.social•7 days ago

Fed up with the appeasement of the right and far right by the left.

It is not the answer.

It moves the argument and the policy discussion into their territory.

Which is exactly what they want.

ckrart.bsky.social•6 days ago

Meanwhile!!

trybetter.bsky.social•7 days ago

I only voted Lab this time to stop Reform (& failed).
If Labour produce more of the same, my next vote WILL go elsewhere.
Starmer has got to listen to the many criticisms and produce targetted socialist policies &, as the article says, be clearer on their intentions.

machenwir.bsky.social•7 days ago

They should jump even further to the left. Stop trying to compete with the cuntiest cunts in our society. Expose them for what and who they are. A clear point of difference is needed

j0nr.bsky.social•7 days ago

She's right

c4darkmane.bsky.social•8 days ago

they should be going left not doing Tory cosplay

trmyerscough.bsky.social•8 days ago

As asked on another account. If, and ignore the coalition years, all the left leaning Labour voters switched to the Lib Dem’s - how many MPs would the Lib Democrats have?

harryhpalmer.bsky.social•7 days ago

It's a bit too late for that @peterstefanovic.bsky.social @louisehaighmp.bsky.social !! That horse bolted as soon as Labour were elected.

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