He has toned down the public rhetoric on that subject, but I suspect he will eventually do it. He doesn't give a damn about them but many in his orbit do. Very much.
Prediction: latter part of Jan 20th, perhaps Jan 21st pardoning of all the "hostages" will be pronounced. A remarkably classic case of a corrupt President of the United States committing one more corrupt act. This will be one of so many! Wait, watch & then prove me wrong. WILL NOT HAPPEN
Don't tell Geraldo Rivera that. In his broken mind the voters have spoken and therefore pardons should be used to move on. Wants to just forget about J6.
What's happening Joyce?
That's shaping up to be Agenda Item One is erasing Jan 6 from memory. They're already saying it was Hezbollah agents dressed up like MAGAs. Pardons will be the low end of it.
There should be no pardons for those convicted for Jan 6th.
As we go into a dictatorship on 20th January it is imperative that we protect the truth, history, and our honorable journalists. Trump is going to try to make is forget.
We can’t let “them” rewrite history. We saw violence, we heard violence and have lived with the anger of an assault on our capitol. If we forget it…shame on us.
Not only whitewash but it says that the president can order violence that kills and maims people and then pardon the abusers and murderers. That’s totally insane and as unamerican as anything I can think of.
... Imagine the loyalty they will have for their Chosen One. Now, what can go wrong with putting criminals out in the streets as Trump's SS Felon Squad ...
Our institutions have shown Trump that that power can be abused without any real consequence. The GOP is his creature now. Demoralizing his enemies delights his base, and the political opposition is toothless.
He's a world historical figure now, with extensive experience and infrastructure and no real legal or political checks on his decision-making. Why not just flex and follow his dictatorial impulses for the rest of his life?
I don't believe he cares about his legacy, he's fine with notoriety.
We saw it with our own eyes-T fomenting attack on 140 Capitol Police, 5 dead, the VP facing calls for his hanging. We will never forget this continuing coup.
Democratic leaders must stop bringing pillows to a knife fight. Do not compromise, find common ground, or reach across the aisle. Bipartisanship doesn't work with fascists. Fuck them as hard as you can. Sign the petition.
Full statement here: https://www.change.org/WeThePeople-DemandActionNow
G-Money, you are right on the money with that point. Reaching across the aisle is a thing of the past. We are fighting for our lives. It's like the scorpion and the frog.
Agreed. But do you think maga would care about appearances? We already know who they are and what they will do. We need to deal with maga in a new way.
With all due respect, pardons will NEVER "whitewash those crimes". I'm of the opinion that pardons would only confirm that the ones convicted and jailed weren't just casual tourists out for a stroll at the Capitol that day.
If you gloss over the episode, future generations will not learn from it. The reconciliation of the North and South after the Civil War left the race issue unresolved, and the lack of reconciliation with the First Nations people left much unresolved. Reflect, admit, and address.
The real facts are embedded in all our minds from the very day that this treasonous act against our Country and its people was perpetrated. No lie or whitewash attempt will ever change that. He will live the rest of his life in shame and history will show him for what he is and did. A Sad Manchild
Forest fires are often stopped by another “back fire”…the democrats need to be prepared for the long haul by building a back fire to halt the proliferation of fascism that is headed Our way NOW!!
He won’t pardon them, he would have to go through all the cases and make sure he isn’t going to pardon those that told a judge they were sorry and did these acts because of the 🍊felon. He is too vindictive
The refusal of SCOTUS to enforce the 14th Amendment whitewashed those crimes already. Permitting a president to pardon those who committed crimes on his behalf would be thought an impeachable abuse of power by the framers.
That court case revolved around if a state could ban the mad king from a primary ballot. As primary races are really just popularity contests for private political parties and not valid elections for the office, the court ruled correctly.
SCOTUS did not say that. It said that states could not enforce Art. 14, Sec. 3,but under Enforcement Act of 1870, US Attorney of pertinent dist. “shall” proceed to remove person subject to that Section.
Congress, specifically the Democrats whitewashed everything when they certified the mad king's electoral vote without an objection despite basing most of their campaign on how the mad king had led an insurrection on Jan. 6, 2020. and was disqualified under sec. 3 of the 14th amendment.
That's what you expect from an opposition party. Especially when their issue for the campaign was that the mad king was, as demonstrated, an insurrectionist and not fit nor qualified to hold office.
I know all this I am just saying once the justice system failed, no accountability will happen. You saw “Judge” Cannon’s ruling? It’s over, all of it. We now officially live in another country an about to be not so nice one. I personally have felt this coming since we elected Reagan. A frontman.
Had Biden released 1,600 immigrants and just 4 within 3 weeks were re-arrested, it would be huge news. The J6 criminals will surpass the 4 # real soon.
We are not prepared for this monster squad that’s about to be let loose on us. Or should we call it the devil and his demons about to attack?
Buckle up folks! Btw, be sure and thank Garland and SCOTUS for this nightmare!
100% agree on Garland (and the pure evil that is SCOTUS of course). I am left wondering if he is just a pathetic coward or a right wing asshole in disguise. In some sense it doesn't matter. He let trump off the hook for attempted coup, and he should not be forgiven for that.
We are where we are. It’s time to get back into the day-to-day fight of keeping Donald Trumps power in check. If we focus on the past, we will lose sight of tomorrow
Changing the hearts and minds of MAGA is a fairytale. MAGA will never learn until they experience economic pain. Unfortunately, the rest of us will suffer as well.
If SOS Trump actually does issue the pardons, he should be charged by every local and state police organization as an Accomplice Before the Fact, for each and every crime that any of those people are charged with from now on!
The irony of this Guardian headline - unprecedented security for Trump’s certification, when there is zero concern for trouble.
And not enough security for Biden’s certification.
I think the more interesting question is the lawsuits against the government for false arrest and the Babbit family for wrongful death. Will a Bondi DOJ fight the lawsuits or just give away money to feed the narrative?
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What's happening Joyce?
As we go into a dictatorship on 20th January it is imperative that we protect the truth, history, and our honorable journalists. Trump is going to try to make is forget.
NOTHING!
PLUS
the GOP will not object to anything he does!
Survival of the republic is in doubt and we do NOTHING!
Our institutions have shown Trump that that power can be abused without any real consequence. The GOP is his creature now. Demoralizing his enemies delights his base, and the political opposition is toothless.
I don't believe he cares about his legacy, he's fine with notoriety.
Full statement here:
https://www.change.org/WeThePeople-DemandActionNow
Not to the mention the trauma endured by hundreds of law enforcement personnel, and a large number of citizens.
He purposely gathered hundreds of thousands in Washington. He told them to march on the capitol and to fight like hell.
The J6 committee report was all the damming evidence required.
At a minimum. An objection should have been raised and the count halted so Congress could debate the issue before proceeding.
Buckle up folks! Btw, be sure and thank Garland and SCOTUS for this nightmare!
And not enough security for Biden’s certification.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/06/congress-trump-election-result-certify?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other