They are new deal liberals. Both of them.
Your perspective is just warped by there not being many of those left after the mid-80s.
Jimmy Carter ushered in an era of business friendly democrats.
Clinton perfected the model.
These are the neo-liberals.
Correct. I encounter them all the time. There's an obvious language gap in the American vernacular and non-American vernacular use of words like socialism, liberal, conservative, etc.
No, we know how they're used there. We just don't use them in discussion for the same reason we don't use Fahrenheit when we talk about temperature. That's the US's own, unique, dumb perspective, and we're not gonna validate it.
Neoliberals had to create the word progressive so they could claim liberal ideology is a new thing.
Both of these men are less radical than FDR. Neither of them proposed anything as radical as the CCC or the TVA
Of course not. Their Overton Windows were wildly different. FDR had the benefit of unfortunate times; an economic collapse that knocked down the elite at the same time as socialist movements were active. That made real progressive movement politically viable.
I guess that explains why democrats spend all their energy snuffing out liberal and socialist movements in their party. Keeps them from having to do much when they were elected after an economic crisis, like in 2008 or 2020
They couldn't do much after 2008 or 2020 regardless. Republicans went full obstructionist in 2009 and Democrats had only a whopping ~4 month window to do ANYTHING and the best the Overton Windows could get was Obamacare.
Is the Overton window not affected by the actions of the people operating inside of its views? Or do you believe it to be some natural force, existing apart from human input?
You think I didn't live through that era?
Eliminating the filibuster was a live prospect before the senate session in 2009 and they absolved themselves of responsibility by not doing that.
Every session for 40 years they create the excuses they will use to justify inaction and now here we are
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Your perspective is just warped by there not being many of those left after the mid-80s.
Jimmy Carter ushered in an era of business friendly democrats.
Clinton perfected the model.
These are the neo-liberals.
The name - a rose by any other name, is often like how Lincoln was Republican and so on.
language is communication is key
Both of these men are less radical than FDR. Neither of them proposed anything as radical as the CCC or the TVA
Eliminating the filibuster was a live prospect before the senate session in 2009 and they absolved themselves of responsibility by not doing that.
Every session for 40 years they create the excuses they will use to justify inaction and now here we are