This isn’t to excuse anything these women have done, but just to point out that this is his pattern and he has the power and control. He is, of course, the wealthiest man on the planet and demonstrates his ability to live above the law every day
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When Elon dated Amber Heard, he pursued her as she was leaving an abusive years-long relationship. She said he surveilled her and he has since posted a private picture of her. He clearly finds and abuses vulnerabilities in younger women. Justine Musk’s Marie Claire op-ed revealed it all a decade ago
I think it’s important not to look at this as a lighthearted part of who Elon Musk is. These are serious stories involving allegations of abuse. And while I have serious issues with some of these women, it’s also important never to fall back on victim blaming tropes and logic in any case
My question is, how is he convincing these women to take fertility treatments. He has 2 sets of twins and a set of triplets. That doesn’t happen by chance.
Not to defend him (yuck) but the 1st set of twins and the triplets were both with his first wife Justine Musk. They lost their first baby to SIDS then had the twins then intended to have one more and ended up with triplets. It's in her Marie Clare essay.
He might be specifically targeting women with fertility issues who're already considering it. Abusers often do select targets with certain vulnerabilities, and that's a potentially huge one. He can swan in and both accentuate the problem (i.e. demanding a son) and purport to offer a solution.
Aside from everything that you explained (very well indeed), I'd like to add one more sinister and regrettable detail: Musk's despicable behavior with women keeps very high his reputation as the so-called alpha male he pretends to be among his stupid bunch of MAGA fans, and he's 100% aware of that.
going forward, i vehemently disagree with all statements of the personal shit being a "distraction". not only does that minimize it, it negates the entirety of their hideousness.
here, here to this 👆 When I heard about the Amber Heard stalking and creepiness I was shocked at the slimy grossness of musk. Great podcast btw https://www.tortoisemedia.com/listen/elons-spies
Aiyiyi you reversed the roles of abuser/abused in that relationship given what happened in court but it’s all fine now that she has going on 2 children via surrogate and someone is bankrolling her new life abroad.
In one court she was deemed a victim. In another court she was deemed a mutual abuser, which isn’t a real thing. And the way the public abused her, too, will never be fine.
I worked among these people in Hollywood for decades and Amber Heard is a type with which I’m familiar. Because of my own experience in the business, I’m naturally sympathetic to women but I’m also a decent judge of character. But you’ve also mischaracterized what the courts actually said.
Women continue to be seduced by money & fame.
To me it’s baffling, because men of this type (more often than not) are narcissists who can’t give or feel love.
It's important not to continue excuse these sorts of men by insisting they're monsters (narcissists, in the annoyingly common pop psych sense). Abusers are just abusers.
Same pattern as the women who just announced the most recent child. He should be in the same group as Bill Cosby, Epstein, Diddy, the Evangelical Pastors, and other predators.
If you do not want an abusive relationship you avoid elon completely. You do not go to bed with him. You do not go out with him. Everybody knows how he treats women. He has 13 children, c'mon.
We can see that clearly, they clearly didn’t. They still aren’t responsible for his abusive actions, and it’s important not to blame victims for abusers’ actions even when we dislike them for valid reason
Ps. I do not dislike them. I don't even know who they are. I'm just expressing my opinion in general terms. A scorpion will always be a scorpion. It'll never change.
No, I'm not blaming them. Of course I'm not but this is a recurrent pattern on his part that can be easily avoided. Probably some cannot see it but I'm sure that others can.
Yes he absolutely sucks shit but I won’t infantilize these women either. They have agency and actively chose to have offspring with this awful weirdo. I feel bad for the kids & no one else.
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To me it’s baffling, because men of this type (more often than not) are narcissists who can’t give or feel love.