Hahahaha. Facebook researchers successfully decoded brain signals outside of a brain with a device non surgically i.e. : they are literally developing tech to read people’s brains. BIG FAT FUCKING NO. N00000. It’s literally tinfoil hat time. 🥳🤯🤬 www.vox.com/future-perfe... - ThreadSky | a Reddit-style client for Bluesky

lepetitoiseau.bsky.social • 5 days ago

Hahahaha. Facebook researchers successfully decoded brain signals outside of a brain with a device non surgically i.e. : they are literally developing tech to read people’s brains. BIG FAT FUCKING NO. N00000. It’s literally tinfoil hat time. 🥳🤯🤬

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/400146/meta-brain-reading-neurotech-privacy

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zzzzzzzzoe.bsky.social•2 days ago

Man shut the fuck up

benconneran.bsky.social•4 days ago

No they didn't.

playthroughline.com•2 days ago

If you're morbidly interested, I have imagined this type of "neurometric panopticon" in a piece of speculative fiction called Neurocracy 🧠🔍

You can find it here: https://neurocracy.site

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michaeldupuis.bsky.social•2 days ago

Not a fucking chance. Ever.

richardabrooks.bsky.social•5 days ago

Because once they can take thought out

The next step is obvious

lepetitoiseau.bsky.social•5 days ago

They’re already extremely adept at influencing plenty of folks’ minds. This is a matter of privacy. It’s a violation. What’s to stop cops from doing this to people? Bosses from their employees? Where do they draw the line? It’s grotesque.

richardabrooks.bsky.social•5 days ago

Oh agreed & even the shallow end of mental privacy invasion, has all kinds of wrong! Studies on existing subliminal messages & population control are horrific!

Doing it without direct brain access is bad enough, obviously no one would EVER consider using such power for evil 🤷‍♂️

mschemistrymd.bsky.social•5 days ago

What stops it is that it’s not possible.
Like, at all, the article is misleading at best and just disinformation at worst.
This is a nothing burger, your boss or cops can already do this, it’s called a keystroke monitor. That is all this does, records motor signals of typing on a keyboard.

djwyszynski.bsky.social•5 days ago

NSA has known about it for DECADES. When I was in INSCOM, all our equipment had to be TEMPEST certified. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_(codename)

djwyszynski.bsky.social•5 days ago

Unless @vox.com asked if the keyboard in question was TEMPEST certified, they've been fucking played. They "read" the sentences from the electrical impulses of the keyboard.

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lepetitoiseau.bsky.social•5 days ago

Researchers upon reading out the keystrokes I programmed with my brain:

“Wait… it’s numerical. What does ‘8008135 8008135 8008135’ mean?”

disposablehero.com•5 days ago

"Hold on, now we're getting '( o )( o )' is it some kind of secret code???"

mickeybiz.bsky.social•5 days ago

:::snortle::: boobies. :::giggle giggle:::

lepetitoiseau.bsky.social•5 days ago

Do I see the obvious benefit of tech like this for folks who would need it? Of fucking course I do. I’m not obtuse. But let’s face it. Since the dawn of man medical & scientific progress has been seized by grotesque humans & used to oppress, abuse & commit atrocities throughout human history.

chekhovsgundam.bsky.social•5 days ago

That, plus these are the people I would trust LEAST to develop and implement that tech with real ethical boundaries in place

lepetitoiseau.bsky.social•5 days ago

100%.

batsdingersatk.bsky.social•4 days ago

Like this is at least top 3 worst hands it’s in and the other two that’d be worse are the US government and Musk (distinction without a difference)

ramonterrell.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yes. All of the cool predictive things our phones can do, for example. It would be awesome and helpful, but because humans aren’t trustworthy, it’s the exact opposite.

gbbard.bsky.social•5 days ago

Yeah, worry here is also that it's a massive international corporation who have developed this rather than small-scale medical specialists (who might at least have a chance of ensuring this is used to aid those in need of brain signal tech rather than abusing it to solely increase profit margins).

lepetitoiseau.bsky.social•5 days ago

You get it. 100%.

anabunny.bsky.social•5 days ago

It would be a Meta product. I don't need to know more tbh.

r7plays.bsky.social•2 days ago

"read their brains" lmao okay sure, maybe like, the nerve impulses to broadly "move leg" or whatever.

0.00000% chance they can read thoughts, just ain't happening.

we had "brain reading" in the 1990s, they were "controlling a video game with their minds" back then, but it was just an EEG thing.

r7plays.bsky.social•2 days ago

100% chance this is all hype bullshit because their metaverse is a giant flop that's worse than the free program VR chat where people make things a million times better than anything meta can for funsies because it's their hobby.

meta has fuckall nothing and they're trying to pump stock numbers.

halcyonember.bsky.social•4 days ago

The fucking Torment Nexus

dragonfish.bsky.social•5 days ago

The "At last, we created the Torment Nexus!" Tweet becomes more and more relevant every day.

Like brain reading tech is the literal basis of so many fucking dystopia novels and series. Like the entire plot of Psychopass hinges on it as a commentary on the fucked Japanese legal system.

evaemiel.com•5 days ago

I highly doubt that this is really a thing. More likely this is a way to keep those investors on their toes because "the next big thing in tech is coming soon!"

peculiaredith.bsky.social•5 days ago

Them: Your mind's secrets shall be opened to us!

Me: Badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger MUSHROOM MUSHROOM

lacci.bsky.social•5 days ago

Their claim is also basically made up if you read the details and are aware of research in the field. Their machine doesn't detect speech, it detects motor signals and uses that to infer what someone is typing. This was first done in the '90s. They improved the accuracy… some.

lacci.bsky.social•5 days ago

Their machine uses an array of superconducting quantum interference devices as sensors to get this increased performance. Those are sophisticated very expensive magnetic field sensors that have to be cooled to usually liquid helium temperatures to work.

lacci.bsky.social•5 days ago

They're writing up incredibly overhyped press releases on interesting but fundamentally incremental improvements to 30 year old techniques. And the new techniques have no chance of working in a normal device outside a lab unless we discover cheap room temperature superconductors.

lacci.bsky.social•5 days ago

It can't read your mind. It can often tell how you're trying to move your hands from looking at what's going on in your brain, but only if you first train it on a lot of brain measurements while it measures you moving your hands. Still kinda freaky but it was being done before Facebook's founding.

lacci.bsky.social•5 days ago

And that's assuming their superconducting quantum interference devices aren't actually sensing muscle firings in their hands and arms and using that instead of brain signals. Which is probably a more likely explanation, those generate larger signals and are hard to exclude.

lepetitoiseau.bsky.social•5 days ago

The Basque Institute in Spain is a fairly reputable research facility on neural studies, language & cognition & that’s who did the research they’re specifically referring to. No one says anything about reading speech, just signals. Which abstract did you read out of curiosity, I’d love to see it.

fallen-denpa-angel.bsky.social•2 days ago

hoping this is the next metaverse, preparing for a future in which we all wear magneto's anti-psychic helmet

hongpong.bsky.social•1 day ago

a bunch of these frequencies been detectable like this for a decade at least

jaymemckenna.bsky.social•5 days ago

Brain privacy. Who knew that would ever be a thing!

djwyszynski.bsky.social•5 days ago

Come on! Does anyone believe this shit at all? The same company did both? Bullshit.

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32mbit.bsky.social•5 days ago

I literally do not believe a word of this. It's market juicing just like the fear mongering about AI replacing humans. Tech bros have figured out that inspiring fear is a type of awe that makes them seem competent and inevitable to attract investment or raise stock price

mauricioangulo.bsky.social•5 days ago

My thoughts: ⬆️⬆️⬇️⬇️⬅️➡️⬅️➡️🅱️🅰️🅰️🅱️🔘

disposablehero.com•5 days ago

I’ve seen this before

lepetitoiseau.bsky.social•5 days ago

Who’s afraid of the big, bad bat? 🦇

disposablehero.com•5 days ago

Time to suit up

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lepetitoiseau.bsky.social•5 days ago

ONLY THE SUIT WITH THE NIPPLES. YA DAMN ROIGHT!!!

bidexualenby.bsky.social•5 days ago

Heaven forbid old men let's their dogs breath smh this is what happens when woke wins...

The people forget the truth 😔

unseengrub.bsky.social•5 days ago

Oh good morning Bat Nipples.

yblivion.cybernetic.gay•2 days ago

"Decoded brain signals"
Sure, even I don't understand what I'm thinking

boy-5.bsky.social•5 days ago

Ya old tech now, they’ve been able to generate images from MRI for over 2 years. This makes it more ‘accessible’ I guess, but ya these psycho fucks invented mind invasion

ian-urru.bsky.social•5 days ago

All they're going to get is a million people thinking the same thought; "Wow! Mark Zukerberg really is a complete tosser."

goblin-alchemi.bsky.social•5 days ago

So this is terrifying, but I also am deathly curious what kind of reading it would get out of someone like me with aphantasia and no inner monologue

raallen86.bsky.social•5 days ago

I remember in one of the Star Wars games, one of the characters would just count numbers in his head, to avoid Jedi mind reading.

Time to start practicing.

hemlockautumn.bsky.social•2 days ago

I am super sceptical about this. Top to bottom.

magicmarian.bsky.social•5 days ago

Those Meta headsets looking even less appealing, if that were possible

bitty.bsky.social•5 days ago

It's probably as bad as the metaverse

lepetitoiseau.bsky.social•5 days ago

I haven’t been on Facebook in years. Never saw the metaverse but read about it. The notion of these people being even tangentially involved in research like this makes my skin crawl.

bitty.bsky.social•5 days ago

It was a huuuge flop. It's like a worse version of second life.

bitty.bsky.social•5 days ago

Said that to say, they're full of shit. While they're stealing our data and invading our privacy, I doubt they are actually reading our minds. It's a market ploy!

vx0.bsky.social•4 days ago

This is the same company that kept saying we would be living in Virtual Reality in 2024. Can we really trust this tech to be actually be working like AT ALL? According to the article, it is using LLVMs , which is a tech that very notoriously doesn't actually work?

vx0.bsky.social•4 days ago

Assuming this even works. There's most likely not a very deterministic way for brains to develop their neuronal structures, so very doubtful data mined from other people's brain activity is going to be that accurate.

vx0.bsky.social•4 days ago

So you gotta wonder, if it's going to need you to feed it a person's thoughts for years before it works on that person.

pianoo.bsky.social•1 day ago

https://youtu.be/NcrE0vGrcto?feature=shared

augincident.bsky.social•4 days ago

I hope they enjoy my single-track interest video game hyperfixation lore dumps for 8 hours straight before it cuts to static because ADHD be like that.

lizardguy64.bsky.social•4 days ago

I'm gonna need to see it in action live to believe this. I hardly doubt the company that made "worse VRchat" could do anything remotely that interesting and invasive.