I love this, but if I were to create a social media, I'd implement the "ship up or ship out" rule, if your a dick, recognize that and try to become better, illgive them 3 chances. If they fail all 3 chances, they get booted.
It's fair, strict, and gives a chance for growth on the offenders side.
it's funny how people continue to complain about things cohost had troubles with, like getting rid of ALL of the bad actors... when there was only four people on staff at any time
I think broken stair policy is a good thing sometimes, especially if it's meant to get rid of assholes! rip cohost
I am aware that the site had its share of actual issues. I'm not here to argue about them, just pointing out that this specific policy (weather it was effectively implemented or not) is a good idea
The annoying thing is, Bsky absolutely has a clause in their TOS they can use to just ban anyone individually and non-prescriptively if they deem them to be a risk to anyone or anything (4-B-iii) but it’s not like they’d ever actually be brave enough to use it.
Yeah, I certainly agree there; it's more of a backup if a social network fucks up than anything, but this *seems* to be in this case what they are so worried about, so if that were the case they could just do it and fall back on that! But I also think them saying that is just a platitude, too.
People keep saying a lot but genuinely it's mostly because they did not take VC money to build up a pool of money to burn through as a startup, and then their development on an app and sub service got delayed by months by payment providers fucking them over, so they ran out of money.
Cohost was losing five figures a month and was funded out of pocket by the owners. Despite the claims other people have made about "rich trans women" none of us are that rich that they can blow that much money every month forever.
*They* didn't fund it out of pocket, a rich friend funded them for several years via promissory notes totalling at least a million dollars. The devs got salaries
Stripe's policies never changed, the wording changed, the policy always forbid that kind of tipping.
that doesn't really substantially change what I said lol. It was funded out of pocket, not VC or investors (didn't know that one rich person didn't have any ownership stake but w/e), they got screwed by payment processor problems at the last minute, and the site's hosting costs were enormous
They didn't get screwed by payment processors last minute. That rule was in place their entire existence. The wording, but not the policy, changed, so they didn't notice until then. I saw Stripe's policies months before the change and posted "hey isn't this a problem for Cohost" but, well...
That combined with the fact that Cohost was pretty actively hostile to discoverability and engagement. Artists gotta eat, and they need an audience for that.
It wasn't for lack of users. They had this whole no-ad business plan to become a commercial platform that didn't work out, and after a lot of external negativity and the usual burdens of running social media they got burnt out and decided they couldn't continue. More users would have been worse.
I never said it had no users. I said it had no discoverability. Artists could not gain traction there because the site was actively hostile towards any of the usual methods of putting unknown people's work in front of users who didn't know them.
This isn't someone speaking from no knowledge of what Cohost was or how it works - I was a premium supporter of the site from the time I joined until the time it shut down. I was able to gain traction in other places. In Cohost, I wasn't.
This is gonna be hard to believe but a lot of us sold more stuff than any other site while having a fraction of the following.
Because the site wasn't a hellhole of engagement farming, branding, and advertising, there was a userbase built in that actually cared about niche art.
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It's fair, strict, and gives a chance for growth on the offenders side.
I think broken stair policy is a good thing sometimes, especially if it's meant to get rid of assholes! rip cohost
Stripe's policies never changed, the wording changed, the policy always forbid that kind of tipping.
There's a lot of misinfo around it.
Cohost always had a small community, very active relative to its size but not enough to do business. Some tags fared better than others.
Because the site wasn't a hellhole of engagement farming, branding, and advertising, there was a userbase built in that actually cared about niche art.
place had some problems of its own but holy smokes, by comparison? garden of fucking eden