It’s becoming clear that Canada’s strategy is not to do anything to upset the US while taking minimal steps to reorient the economy away from the US. There are many problems with this approach, not least of which is that the government’s red lines are unknown. www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/artic... - ThreadSky

bhaggart.bsky.social • 1 day ago

It’s becoming clear that Canada’s strategy is not to do anything to upset the US while taking minimal steps to reorient the economy away from the US.
There are many problems with this approach, not least of which is that the government’s red lines are unknown.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-joly-says-canada-open-to-discussing-us-proposal-to-match-tariffs-on/

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ifht.bsky.social•1 day ago

For fucks sake. Trump is POISON. Don't make deals, hold meetings, or let him touch your soil! LOCK HIM OUT!

liberal4care.bsky.social•1 day ago

Hello China

bhaggart.bsky.social•1 day ago

What idea would Trudeau and the Liberals say no to? The kind of alignment Joly says she would consider would surrender the very thing we need to survive as an independent country: the ability to set our own trade policy.

bhaggart.bsky.social•1 day ago

Remember all that talk a few weeks ago about the need to diversify trade to protect ourselves from an untrustworthy and threatening US? Remember how patriotic Trudeau looked giving that speech? What Joly is considering here is the exact opposite of all that.

bhaggart.bsky.social•1 day ago

The uncomfortable reality is that Canadian diversification away from the US is not in the US interest, and they will take steps to stop it.

In fact, they already have. The USMCA gives the US a de facto veto over any Canadian trade agreement with China.

bhaggart.bsky.social•1 day ago

If Canada does anything significant to strengthen our own market, or diversify in ways the US doesn’t like, they will (again) threaten our market access. Or worse.

Instead of acknowledging this reality, Canada is trying to have it both ways. And sleepwalking into vassal state status in the process.

bhaggart.bsky.social•1 day ago

This is a roundabout way of saying the current Canadian strategy is short-sighted, incoherent and against Canadian interests. It assumes we can buy peace in our time. We can’t. Not with the US as it is, and as it’s likely to be for the foreseeable.

bhaggart.bsky.social•1 day ago

We need a long-term strategy that reflects the reality that, at some point, Canada will have to do things that Trump won’t like. There will always be something for the US to complain about. At some point, if we dare speak up for ourselves, they’ll treat us like they treated Zelenskyy.

persister.bsky.social•1 day ago

Now do Doug Ford’s platform, please. All he’s interested in is selling us off to the US.

https://www.ontario.ca/page/building-fortress-am-can-ontarios-am-can-growth-plan

lynboyle4.bsky.social•1 day ago

Hasn’t trump already broken the USMCA? Doesn’t that negate the trade deal? Maybe I just don’t understand…

ron.pds.walloftext.ca•1 day ago

Given that the US is threatening to impose wide ranging tariffs on Canada, I would say that the trade agreement is already not worth the paper it's written on.

deetoriadee.bsky.social•1 day ago

At this point, we need to consider the USMCA void. The US has already broken their part of the deal.

zadett.bsky.social•1 day ago

Anyway, you look at it you can't trust the United States if I were Canada, I would go on that assumption

teebonez.bsky.social•1 day ago

We can't hit a target that is constantly moving, Something else will happen after this, then something else. Unreliable trading partner would be complimentary at this point. Eventually we will be asked for something we cannot give. I'm terrified on what happens after that

canadianhammer.bsky.social•1 day ago

Or you drag them along like they have us with the threat of tariffs. Reality is we’ll never be completely decoupled from the US. And China is not friendly. We need to play both powers against each other.

linkeloetje.bsky.social•17 hours ago

Going away from the US is a very very wise strategy. There's a lot of support worldwide and the one losing is the damned divided states of assmerica.

greatfausto.bsky.social•1 day ago

I’d say ditch the US in favor of China and Mexico…. Form a triangle trading block excluding the US and make Trump bow down which he would once his base feels the pain

maxp94.bsky.social•1 day ago

As I predicted months ago, they’re trying to mirror their COVID strategy: big rhetoric, minimal intervention, encourage the average Canadian to pick up the slack. Avoid as much short term discomfort as possible in exchange for long term pain.

maxp94.bsky.social•1 day ago

The Canadian political class is in a weird place where they seem to partially acknowledge the gravity of the situation while spending all their efforts frantically searching for any way to avoid it, or failing that, avoid as much pain as possible.

jordantcarlson.bsky.social•1 day ago

In other words: repeating what the Canadian political class has done for, more or less, the entire period since the end of the Cold War.

maxp94.bsky.social•1 day ago

I don’t have any insight into what sort of conversations are being had behind closed doors right now, but one sentiment I’ve encountered a lot is this sort of meek fatalism: ‘well of course we have to placate them, what else can we do really?’.

jordantcarlson.bsky.social•1 day ago

"Sleep walk into annexation", the policy of least thought.

maxp94.bsky.social•1 day ago

I think a lot of people see it as an undignified but easy way to go, and they desperately need to be made aware of just how much that is not the case!

maxp94.bsky.social•1 day ago

Not hard to imagine this being used to justify a mostly-business as usual approach, much in the same way we’re not particularly bothered by the prospect of a gamma ray burst or false vacuum collapse.

maxp94.bsky.social•1 day ago

There’s some limited recognition that the people guiding this new Trump administration are, as Sir Horace Rumbold put it, ‘not normal’, but it’s limited, as is the willingness to grapple with the implications of this.

maxp94.bsky.social•1 day ago

The implications are, namely, that there is in fact no middle path between capitulation and all out resistance, and that the former would be worse than our darkest nightmares.

roseatabey.bsky.social•1 day ago

Thats the Justin Trudeau liberal party for you. WEAK WEAK WEAK!
Jean Chretien would never have done that.
Ive always voted liberal but, damn I’m really starting to wonder if poilievre doesn’t have more COHONES to defend Canada and I can’t believe I’m saying this!!!
Carney.. I just don’t trust him

real2roosters.bsky.social•1 day ago

Ahh, political science profs. Those that can't do, teach

mastiff48.bsky.social•1 day ago

Canada should start to place TNT cartridges on the pillars of the steel bridge connecting Detroit.Just in case somebody "down there" gets crazy.

canamvet.bsky.social•1 day ago

Joly exemplifies why we need NEW leadership for Canada. She's coward

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