Fascists play lip service to freedom of speech, but fascists only support freedom for those who agree with them and support them. JD Vance is fine with this prosecution. - ThreadSky

kenwhite.bsky.social • 5 days ago

Fascists play lip service to freedom of speech, but fascists only support freedom for those who agree with them and support them. JD Vance is fine with this prosecution.

Reposted from Sarah McLaughlin

Placebo's Brian Molko has been charged with defamation for “contempt of the institutions" in Italy after calling prime minister Giorgia Meloni a “piece of shit, fascist, racist” during the 2023 Sonic Park festival.

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rogieres.bsky.social•5 days ago

And that's the bitter end of it all.

fredgarvinmalepro.bsky.social•3 days ago

Do you have any evidence that Vance supports this prosecution or that this is related in any way to his speech in Munich?

The idiom is "pay" lip service, btw.

darthmarshmallow.bsky.social•5 days ago

It was interesting to learn that Benito Mussolini's granddaughter left Meloni's party because it had become TOO fascist.

thesoundings.bsky.social•5 days ago

Fascism is powerful because it has the power of the state behind it and its willingness to use force/violence. Yet it is fragile and weak because it cannot brook any dissent. Sustained and widespread dissent is the way you defeat fascism.

trueindependent.bsky.social•5 days ago

So weird he didn't bring that one up.

jmwallach.bsky.social•5 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/danwilbur.bsky.social/post/3liextxihb22n

ukrainolution.bsky.social•5 days ago

I think she said in her complaint “I may be a fascist piece of shit, but how dare you call be a racist.”

jonarnesen.bsky.social•5 days ago

Italian brothers have melons. Not balls.

I fratelli italiani non hanno le palle nello scroto. Quei ragazzi hanno dei meloni.

kmosser.bsky.social•5 days ago

Does it matter, legally, if it’s true?

adambirnbaum.bsky.social•5 days ago

Not in Italy. The important part of the law is the intent to cause reputational damage, and the truth isn't a defense.

kmosser.bsky.social•5 days ago

Grazie.

I'm no lawyer, but that seems odd: if a truthful claim may cause reputational harm, that would seem to indicate that the person who did the act about which the claim is being made is responsible.

But that sentence makes me sound like a lawyer; sorry.

fredgarvinmalepro.bsky.social•3 days ago

I think it would be hard to prove she was a fascist, racist piece of shit.

adambirnbaum.bsky.social•5 days ago

I'll give you one guess when the Civil Code that contains this law was adopted.

katiecannon.bsky.social•5 days ago

Fascists understand that FDR printed dollars for The New Deal while Hitler printed deutsche marks for a giant army

joshforgeorgia.bsky.social•5 days ago

Do you think Congress will attempt to pass a federal law at Trump’s behest establishing categories like this? Or is that necessary to bring something like that here

zerogravityy.bsky.social•5 days ago

‘Freedom of speech’ means ‘freedom to malign enemies’.

princessjemmy.bsky.social•5 days ago

… She is a public figure. And is all those things too (especially the fascist part, by pedigree). Good luck making the defamation charges stick.

adambirnbaum.bsky.social•5 days ago

This is Italian law, which doesn't allow the truth as a defense. That law was adopted under Mussolini, who Meloni kisses a picture of every night before bed.

princessjemmy.bsky.social•5 days ago

Fuck, I’d be willing to pay that fine for the dude, so long as it comes with an obligation for LaStampa to run the words on its front page for a week.

themjl.bsky.social•5 days ago

"Contempt for the Institutions" would be an awesome punk band name, tbh...🤘

lukekoetje.bsky.social•5 days ago

Just gonna leave this here...

paddys.bsky.social•5 days ago

Pussy Riot was the litmus. They loved what Putin did to them.

prezbeeblebrox.bsky.social•5 days ago

By suing him she proved his point though.
Catch-22 if you will.

stunwin.com•5 days ago

huh. didn't even consider all the fun new ways that extraditions could be weaponized by these freaks.

lobleytea.bsky.social•5 days ago

I wonder how long before they make that a crime here, too

jim85716.bsky.social•5 days ago

Law for thee, but not for me.

chilichimp.bsky.social•5 days ago

It has always been freedom to hate speech strangers and fire your liberal employees.

antonpnym.bsky.social•5 days ago

It's all "freedom of speech for me, lese majeste for thee" with those guys. (Probably down to the "thee", while wearing a tricorn hat and a maxi-pad taped to an ear.)

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