Providing this info. is a great service to those being asked to do things they don't feel right about & don't know if they're allowed or not under our laws and Constitution. With this kind of service, I'm thinking, no soldiers can say, "I was only following orders," like they did in Nazi Germany.
I agree, however, they ALREADY KNOW IT. You MAY NOT obey an illegal order, as per the UCMJ. And I, a veteran, dearly hope every. single. soul. who defies this absolute military code goes directly to jail, after they're dishonorably discharged.
Absolutely correct. It's job one when you join, then officers often take it again upon promotions. But you zeroed in on the essential point: it's an oath taken to the CONSTITUTION, not to the president, tho it includes the OFFICE of the president within the framework of the law.
Yes. I saw a film Rick Steeves made on the beginnings of fascism in Germany & Italy before WWII. The German people took an oath to Hitler, not to the German state or constitution. Today, the main requirement for a job in this administration is fealty to Trump; the Constitution be damned. So awful.
If you have relatives in the military, now is the time to talk to them. Now is the time to ask them if they will shoot/harm their fellow Americans. The life you save, may be your own
… or for members of the police and ICE force. The attempted 1945/1946 Nuremberg Tribunal Trial excuse of ‘I just followed orders’ will not be accepted to avoid charges of crimes against humanity and democracy.
All US Military boot-camps include Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) training which details the military hierarchical structure, including when it is 'legal' to disobey an order from a superior; aka, the three 'eyes'.
When the order is:
Illegal,
Immoral, and/or
Impossible
I'm reading this in the UK, and you're answering (partially at least) a question I have been asking myself for a while. What the heck happens if the American military is required/requested/ordered to take action to destoy/protect the constitution? I can only see a divided military and thus chaos.
I'm 67 now, and for the previous decades of my existence, Patty, I have been living a complacent life, believing a liberal free and expanding world was the future. Instead, we have an America well on the way to dictatorship and much of Europe with an expanding far-right. The future is scary. 😣
He wants to use that military parade as an excuse to have the military and tanks and troops in the District of Columbia when he announces a national securities threat and declares martial law and disband the supreme court, and suspend the authority of federal court. Mark my words.
True. Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, you do not have to follow an illegal order. So if you know someone who's hesitating, tell them it will not be a defense to say "I was only following orders."
I am sure that I am re-stating others; unlawful orders are just that. We used to be given briefings every year about what exactly constitutes an unlawful order. I know that the US military has been hijacked by morons and a drunk but “just following orders” will not keep you from the gallows.
Sorry, it seems likely that placing a call into the system run by this administration to refute this administration would be a bad idea for those individuals. At best it would lead to a dead end. Not trying to be negative, just realistic.
Bravo! Our military knows right from wrong when the time comes where we as a people stand up to fascism and hatred I believe in my heart they will stand on the right side of democracy
I’ve been saying that since his first term, when at least there were some competent people in the WH to keep him in check. Now there are none and I see a time in the near future where American citizens will be killed in the streets by our own military. And he will love that and so will maga.
Interesting. One of my relatives is married to enlisted man and he wanted to make a career of it. But is getting out next Jan when time up because he’s worried someday that he will get illegal order.
Mike Johnson, the House Speaker, is really the little Rat in the GOP house.
The orange headed megalomaniac is demented.
The Joseph Goebbels wanna be Steve Miller is evil.
But the power is in Johnson's hands, and that is dangerous for the Country.
RESIST RESIST RESIST.
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https://www.newsweek.com/ice-director-uses-nazi-defence-claim-border-policy-not-hitler-regime-were-just-985451
Timothy
When the order is:
Illegal,
Immoral, and/or
Impossible
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-jan-6-panel-releases-video-of-rep-loudermilk-leading-a-capitol-tour-day-before-attack
If the military goes to Trump it is game over for our democracy.
The orange headed megalomaniac is demented.
The Joseph Goebbels wanna be Steve Miller is evil.
But the power is in Johnson's hands, and that is dangerous for the Country.
RESIST RESIST RESIST.