🧵 A short side thread to this one. Soon after DOGE landed at IRS very early in the admin their first demand (which wasn't just DOGE but the immigration folks at the WH) was let's let the ICE folks come over here and cross reference with their target lists. This was both to target individuals for ... - ThreadSky

joshtpm.bsky.social • 2 days ago

🧵 A short side thread to this one. Soon after DOGE landed at IRS very early in the admin their first demand (which wasn't just DOGE but the immigration folks at the WH) was let's let the ICE folks come over here and cross reference with their target lists. This was both to target individuals for ...

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The first and most important thing to know about last night's Exec order is that it's intended to break current law and allow people throughout the federal gov look at yr tax returns. Beyond that it's intended to compel states to turn over all their data to the fed govt.

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metarefugeee.bsky.social•2 days ago

Why has no judge appointed an independent, special master to evaluate and report on 1) actions taken by the appointed rogue personnel of an agency (DOGE, et. al.; 2) whether they have proper security clearance; 3) whether the TRO’s are being implemented; 4) the degree of data breaches?

jimraff.bsky.social•2 days ago

It will also be used to target environmental orgs, social justice groups, and other “enemies of the state”.

kathykadane.bsky.social•2 days ago

Ye. After theyre sated on attacking Brown people, theyll start on civil society.

jimraff.bsky.social•2 days ago

Many of these groups have already been targets for surveillance, even under Dem administrations.

joshtpm.bsky.social•2 days ago

2/ deportation but also to request audits of companies or individuals ICE suspected of hiring or shielding undocs. The lawyers at IRS/Treasury were like, that's literally against the law. DOGE: don't be so uptight and literal. LAWYERS: No, really, that's literally against the law. A few people ...

sausalitocheese.bsky.social•2 days ago

If I recall, Bush was going to send no match letters from the IRS to employers, and courts shut that down within hours.

joshtpm.bsky.social•2 days ago

3/ got bounced and new appointees started trying to become more creative. This set of conversations was at the root of most of the resignations and firings. This part is from memory but I think IRS staff is legally obligated to report when they get individual requests like this let alone mass ...

joshtpm.bsky.social•2 days ago

4/ requests and I *think* IRS staff can be individually legally responsible in these cases. Those last two points are from memory abt legal culpability. But the overall point is that these are hard laws, not intepretations or regs. They seem to be moving to more and more creative interpretations ...

robertrio.bsky.social•2 days ago

I posted the wrong statute before, this is the right one. Up to five years in prison

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/7213A

robertrio.bsky.social•2 days ago

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/7213

joshtpm.bsky.social•2 days ago

5/ of the law under more and more cooperatives appointees and lawyers. But one thing to remember is that all of this stuff is done in secret. If someone is sharing your tax info illegally you're not going to know it unless someone leaks the info. To the extent anyone's going to get in trouble ...

joshtpm.bsky.social•2 days ago

6/ it's not going to be from the current DOJ. The point is that this kind of info and action is highly secret. So it can be happening even though it's remains a federal crime. A more probable scenario is one in which a facially absurd interpretation of the relevant laws gets made inside the ...

joshtpm.bsky.social•2 days ago

7/ IRS and it's done on that basis. That way no one has to think they're breaking the law. They're following the relevant persons guidance/interpretation. The key point here is that since it's all secret it's not that easy to get any of this in front of a judge who says no, stop, that's clearly ...

lisadiana.bsky.social•2 days ago

Planet Crazy ‼️
No wonder employees at plants like Bimbo did not show up for work.

johndavisson.bsky.social•2 days ago

Fwiw we know that tax info was illegally shared via wrongful disclosure to DOGE (Elez, Krause, etc.) at Treasury/BFS. We just don't know the full extent of how it was/will be used, especially for adverse determinations, criminal/immigration purposes, etc.

izzyg.bsky.social•2 days ago

How much you wanna bet the companies that hire undocumented workers are not gonna get prosecuted?
Well, the ones supportive of maga will be ignored but all the rest are gonna get skewered. I bet there's a lot of companies figuring out how to make a donation real quick.

sufi66.bsky.social•2 days ago

too many norms are being broken.

timetraveler9561.bsky.social•2 days ago

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mitchellmebane.bsky.social•2 days ago

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andrewwerth.com•2 days ago

Not likely they're going to look into this one private club in Bedminster, NJ, about their hiring practices, are they?

j-lastcoolletter.bsky.social•2 days ago

Is anyone in Congress going after this? Can State AGs sue?

mayvene.bsky.social•2 days ago

This is getting beyond scary really when you think about it it looks like it could be a vendetta and a spite attack on people, they have a grudge against people or just anybody they put their crosshairs on wow what is happening to the law and for that matter the constitution

roddee.bsky.social•2 days ago

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era88.bsky.social•2 days ago

The party of “limited government” is allowing the government to trample all over rights to privacy.

nonnylynda.bsky.social•2 days ago

I just want to point out that Nixon tried to do this sort of targeting of his "enemies", albeit using far more subtle means but definitely the same motivations...trump and company are just using wildly chaotic methods to, making people think it's random and messy, but it's 100% targeted.

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skyporter.bsky.social•2 days ago

What? I thought programs such as e-verify were designed to force compliance, and assumed that inter-agency analysis of data had long been a thing.

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