When people talk about a "Joe Rogan of the left" (a silly idea), they probably aren't referring to someone who spends half their time tweeting about how they hate the left and the other half tweeting about housing policy.
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the "Rogan of the left" idea is just the "Good guy with a gun" rebuttal with a podcast microphone.
Not even a band-aid for the problem, it's the hollow appearance of doing something that positions continued consumption as the solution to a problem capitalism actively requires to function.
The Joe Rogen of the left is just Bill Burr. Just a guy who appeals to the male population, speaks "casually" and in a manner people of all groups understand. Hes just stands for more liberal views. Both hard and moderate left
The person literally said a progressive Joe Rogan isn’t possible because they’d get cancelled for having weird opinions and posted an image about moderates and anyone not progressive being pushed out.
I will say that podcasters and others are starting to leverage Bernie appearing as a means of cover for their usual leveraging of right wing talking points.
The whole concept starts from the wrong position. You can’t find a Joe Rogan “of the left” because leftist ideals actually require effort and work. It can’t be conspiracy theories and rage bait. The truth is, being a leftist is hard. You have to care about people and you have to “be political”. . .
What if the conspiracy theories and rage bait are what draws in the big audience?
I don't think it's impossible to have someone talk about things like UFOs, CIA operations, Bigfoot, corporate lobbying, and left leaning social and cultural issues all in one 2-3 hour podcast.
What we CAN DO is make meaningful changes in the lives of every day voters through community action. Again, work. But classical liberalism and anything left of that position is based on the understanding that democratic societies require ENGAGEMENT in political activities. 🤷🏻♀️
The extreme left is as ridiculous as the extreme right in that neither one takes the reality of human nature into account. The moderate left is understandably sounding extra shrill lately but should not be lumped in with the extremists.
Also weird they are implying the right doesn't do these things??? It's why we call it a cult, these things basically describe a cult....Trump is currently punishing people right now for breaking all these things.
An exact 1-for-1 analog of leftist Rogan is a silly idea but the idea of an effective communicator that reaches and can form relatable ideas with a massive audience isn’t a crazy idea
he does have a point though. the left is absolutely ridiculous in their purity checks and are increasingly less charitable with other leftists and people we would want to be leftists.
they keep making the club smaller when we need more general support. it’s self-defeating.
not trying to be wholly dismissive, but typically when people talk about leftist purity tests the examples they provide are either microscopic social media accounts arguing over language/semantics, or high-profile pundits being chastised for transphobia.
hell, i personally think cody and the ‘some more news’ team are too charitable to the DNC and they’re more coded in progressive liberalism than my more radical socialism.
am i going to tell people not to watch them? of course not. because they are still more on my side and they bridge gaps we need
exactly. the vasttttttt majority of people aren’t gonna agree with militant vanguard forced communism; but if they’re at least onboard with universal healthcare, they’re still an ally of mine at least until we get universal healthcare.
I said Keynesian economics was shit - I was told I was listening to neoliberals too much and sent a link to a Youtube video explaining it. Now more informed I see it as 'Capitalism putting out the fire it started'. That's what I imagine most people are talking about with purity tests
except on platforms like bluesky, where radical leftists feel so slighted by some micro-nonsense that they add other leftists to their block groups effectively silencing their voice and opinions.
a large swath of leftists think bernie sanders is an enemy. that hasan piker is an enemy.
If this is what the Democrats have at this juncture they have zero understanding of their base. We want Columbo, Rockford, House, anyone that is not GULLIBLE!
shockingly, being yelled at constantly online does not excise someone from the decentralized progressive movement, but it sure makes ppl masquerading as progressives drop the pretenses allot quicker than they otherwise would
I agree. But you do have to admit we're pretty scoldy. You're doing a scold right now!
...as am I, I suppose.
I think it's worth considering how so many people see us dirty libs and leftists as miserable, unlikable or just a pain in the ass when engaging with us on culture or policy.
It’s wild to me that they want to throw money at this when there are already widely popular leftist podcasters and youtube stars.
also it might be bad to encourage people to seek a single source for opinions on news.
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Not even a band-aid for the problem, it's the hollow appearance of doing something that positions continued consumption as the solution to a problem capitalism actively requires to function.
I don't think it's impossible to have someone talk about things like UFOs, CIA operations, Bigfoot, corporate lobbying, and left leaning social and cultural issues all in one 2-3 hour podcast.
Every clip I have seen of Joe Rogan is him, head empty, going, "Woah, that's wild," half-asleep, in response to nazi dogwhistle #3.
Literally a dog could do it.
Why the fuck are they forever on about this.
they keep making the club smaller when we need more general support. it’s self-defeating.
am i going to tell people not to watch them? of course not. because they are still more on my side and they bridge gaps we need
a large swath of leftists think bernie sanders is an enemy. that hasan piker is an enemy.
That sounds horrible.
...as am I, I suppose.
I think it's worth considering how so many people see us dirty libs and leftists as miserable, unlikable or just a pain in the ass when engaging with us on culture or policy.
also it might be bad to encourage people to seek a single source for opinions on news.
Like, that's just not a thing. All the things that make that person who they are make it impossible for them to be valued on the other side.
That will probably never exist, though.