It certainly will be interesting to see what concessions Trump is able to get from Putin. So far, it sounds like the dictator who invaded our ally gets everything he wants and gives up nothing. We will see.
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I don't see it this way. Rather that these men have a relationship of some kind (?ownership) perhaps dating to 1990ff, Tchigirinsky (Atlantic City), Agalarov (Miss Universe), Sapir, Kislin & Arif (Trump Tower).
Ref: Putin's People, C. Belton, 2020
I didn’t realize Trump was President of Ukraine. He can negotiate all he wants but the person who actually represents the people of Ukraine wasn’t in on the conversation so… this is a BS “Flood the Zone” to create chaos, show.
Quick question, shouldn't it be Putin and Zelensky negotiating, rather than Putin and Trump? Putin and Trump are on the same side, it would have been like having Ford and GM negotiate the end to an autoworker strike, without the union present.
What do your European allies have to say about that? More importantly, what are they doing to support Ukraine’s independence? Bc we’ve seen this movie before, and if the world allows Ukraine to go, it will just be the first domino. More will follow.
We know Putin will continue to want more, and more. My guess he won't stop until he gets the old Union back, no matter what deals he makes now. Just MHO.
Trump still terrified that Putin could release the 1080pee tapes. And he probably also has audio of Trump offering to sell Putin the classified files he had squirreled away at Mar Lago. Putin, no doubt, has tonnes of juicy blackmail nuggets on Trump.
There are excuses for Neville Chamberlain, who conceded other countries' land for promises of peace from Hitler. The UK wasn't ready for another war and other countries didn't want to get involved.
There are NO excuses for Trump. Except that he just likes giving away other peoples' lands?
There is nothing interesting to see here. This is a war for survival. If concessions are made Ukraine will desapear, ruzz will rearm and replenish its army and will keep threatening Europe. There is only one way now. Total defeat for putin.
I desagree. Well everyone knows he is a ruzz asset as well as the real president. No news here. But war creates some crazy new players and we will see it happening with some more time. Europe is waking up under new leadership.
What leadership? Europe is a loose assembly of 27 democratic countries which all elect different sorts of politicians every few years. They agree on some ideas about economic and social rules and values, which they decided to pour into common legislation, and that’s all.
Agreed but war times is a different animal. It changes everything and everyone. Trust me. Western countries got used to post war stability and growth. This is done under Putin’s was and Trump’s Nazi gvmt
When Don Ttump-leone said he will end wars, what he meant is that he will cowardly side against the weaker side (Ukraine, Gaza) and then also bully/blackmail their allies (EU, Egypt & Jordan).
Trump’s bromance with Putin is obviously. Putin has been and will continue to “wear the pants in that relationship.” (No intention to disparage anyone except the Orange King of Pain. Sorry Sting & The Police) I’m just sorry for most everything.
This is "The Axis power" Hitler's ally Benito Mussolini
The three nations began to draw closer and entered into treaties and pacts to end their isolation.
Trump is isolation the USA.
Russia is isolated
Saudi Arabia will join because of Khashoggi.
we all know Trump is completely subservient to Putin. If anybody thinks that it is Putin that will make the concessions then you are delusional. It's always been like this since Trump was elected in 2016. I feel really bad for Ukraine. They are going to get the worst deal unfortunately due to Trump.
My prediction: the Russian mole will make Ukraine say no, will cut its assistance and possibly even help Russia with some assistance or by some other tangible means.
Respect you I do but I can't understand why you and your peers seem unable to insert a little historical context into this discourse. Put some US Foreign Policy into this and acknowledge that this conflict had always been about the nuclear encirclement of Russia. NATO is a US surrogate.
Also it makes me so angry that they can plan the destruction of lives and resources of other country like this. putin 100% wants political control and control over resources. Trump probably wants a large chunk of cut. And he is prepared to do it by making millions suffer. Make them homeless landles
That isn’t a settlement, it’s a takeover. The US is not the authority on this, and Shitler wants out of NATO. Ukraine has a right to join and if not, a right to rearm themselves with nukes. Would that be better?
You're traveling through another dimension where wars are peace, losses are wins, and tariffs bring prosperity. Where a man who sparked trade wars claims to end a real war in 24 hours—without saying how.
Truth bends, reality twists, and facts vanish. You’ve just crossed into... The Trump Zone.
Why wouldnt it? But that is nor here nor there. Iran is not an ally to the U.S but if they were to change that at some point Ukraine has shown its a BAD idea.
Trumps policy for dealing with Russia? Give Putin *everything* he wants. That’s how #Trump deals with ALL of them. The Taliban, Russia, China will be next. He’s such a pussy ass bitch. #PAB
In this case though, Trump can't give anything to putin. Ukraine is not his to give. I wish more Americans would stop thinking that their president can just decide things for other countries. They can't. What is the US going to do when Ukraine decides enough is enough? Nothing
The Taliban were popular in Afghanistan. Outside of a narrow elite in Kabul, the Taliban were viewed as the continuation of the Afghan fight against foreign occupation.
It still doesn’t mean that the country was free for #Trump to give away in a negotiation with Taliban leaders w/o Afghan leadership present & agreeable. Trump does this shit all the time. So it wouldn’t surprise me if he promised Russia, Ukraine & then just told Zelensky to bend the knee to Putin.
My point was that the Taliban were the Afghan popular national movement. So Trump didn't give anything away there. Stop thinking of other countries as just filler that the US can give away or decide fates of. Ukrainians have their own will. Nothing Trump can do about that.
Trump is so weak when it comes to dealing with dictators. What does he get from Putin after 3 years of war? Nothing except the subjugation of Ukraine who he thinks treated him badly. 🤦♂️
Putin’s puppet. With Gabbard in place now the coup is complete. Google should just rename America as a Russian territory. It was all so easy to see if you took the time to research. But people just watched mainstream propaganda media or Russian paid podcasters. RIP America/Democracy.
I enthusiastically voted against Trump all three times, but billions of dollars to Ukraine is a complete loser politically.
People say they can't afford groceries. The Dems tell them the economy is fine and it's critical that Ukraine gets billions of dollars in aid. It doesn't play. At all.
The dictator interfered in our elections. We have been attacked. Who do you think started the genocide Joe stuff that Madd Trump win? Why no one will say that Out loud baffles me.
Trump isn't looking for concessions. He takes orders. And I wish people wouldn't call Putin a dictator. He's a tyrant, a psychopath, a sadistic mass murderer, a war criminal.
When USA will next need help, Putin will step in and cover with an umbrella of protection for Trump; America will become a vassal state of Russia and then look for the changes that will ensue.
It’s shameful the way Trump is treating Ukraine, and Zelensky. They deserve so much better. This is just another example of, when it’s all said and done, how Trump will be remembered as one of the worst world leaders ever, up there with Hitler. The guy is a monster.
The US is unravelling fast. Ukraine left to Europe and Oceania to defend, the animosity towards the US will be enormous. Now you have a Russian employee as Director of Intelligence, leaving NATO her first task. US is in serious danger right now. Nothing stopping NK from launching those missiles.
USA now joined the list of Evil’s countries like Iran, North Korea.
This is how Trump made America Great Again, it is by joining the Evil’s force.
Elon Musk is Darth Vader.
Hope it will still be possible to bring USA away from the dark side.
Manchurian officials are in da house. Watch how the fluffers in the GOP and cabinet (all of them) kneel down and practice their most worthy craft on the cross-eyed squirrel and the fat rat!
The release of prisoners is a play...the cross eyed squirrel and his boot boy know how to play the fat dumb guy. Now they are much closer to what they really want. the fat guy mistakes "a deal" with diplomacy. It's NOT. Beware Ukraine, The fat guy just left you out to dry.
I'm with Illinois we made a promise and trump wants to reneg on the deal. Russian is the invader and they want Ukraine to give up their own land. Ukraine wants to enter nato and the only objection is coming from the invader and his puppet. That was the cost for Russian help to elect trump.
Some deal maker, right? And this is what he thought he would get a Nobel Peace Prize for? His Endlösung for Gaza and handing Ukraine over to Putin for free? He proved again that he is incapable so that’s what Europe needs to react to. “No deal, it’s not up to you to interfere in our region”.
Let's see how many American states choose to join Canada where we still defend true friends. While they are wAiting they should ask courts to freeze federal tax funds until federal courts certify the freeze is over.
As a Canadian, I have zero confidence in the USA as the NATO member calling the shots. Europeans better wake up soon, we thought we were safe in North America, they are alone against Russia-China.
Let's make a world, we want! I'll start, impose a tax on all transnational banking, financial transactions. Governments have been starved since the late '70s. They can't fix anything without revenues so we despair. Capital is transnational, trickle down is a myth, we need those funds Who's next?
Here’s another… Growth does not have to be our only target. Growth tends to just produce larger riches for a small minority.
Focus should be on sharing resources that we already generate more fairly.
I like it, anyone else with a new world policy? Defense, Climate, health, education, tech. The world is ours, so fed up with pointing out the failings of Trump et al but never having solutions. Negative waste of time, let's build what we want, not what Elon, Zuck Putin Xi Trump etc want. Come on
Yeah, we got zip! So goes Mr Art of the Steal! Why do people get so impressed over this paper tiger? He doesn’t understand or know how anything works or functions. No academic curiosity. Zero. Nada. Literally and figuratively! Categorically, the most uninteresting human on the fucking planet.
Well, the promise regarding NATO can just be done with your fingers crossed. Russia and Trump break treaties and conventions every day so why can't Ukraine? Get EU membership first.
My experience with MAGAts is that you are wrong. At best they don't give a damn about Ukraine, but most of them just don't want the US involved even if it's a win for Putin.
This is exactly why California needs to Calexit and keep the nuclear weapons it has based here. America needs food, we got it and hold more power than most realize.
It’s obvious if the orange parasite is getting involved he wants something out of it. Europe needs to step up and fill the U.S. void. Let’s face it tRump will step away from NATO and if necessary the remaining NATO countries should get involved if thresholds are crossed!
Yes, purely to show his solidarity with Putin. NATO although reluctantly, can still operate without him. Bullies always think they have the upper hand, he doesn’t 💙
Based on what the rest of the world knows about her, very little or whatever tidbits they want to feed her. For America a country which has always been a stalwart in policing the world its an awful position to be in 🫣
Illia, as an American I can only hope sanity begins to return to our Nation. This is horrifying and makes me feel as if I am living in an alternative universe 😳🙄😞
Shameful that the discussion will likely be more about what the US has to gain and little to do with what Ukraine has lost and is due in reparations. Following how Trump benefits will reveal the true story.
Trump’s not going to get concessions from Putin. He’s paying Russia back for the two presidencies that, together, have utterly destroyed America.
Of course they are both happy.
Trump is holding the purse strings..its up to UKRAINE if they feel they can fight on..or if they are forced to give up to survive. TRUMP IS DESPICABLE!
The only thing Trump wants from Putin is for Putin to keep his mouth shut about Trump's treason, and to keep whatever video and/or audio tapes of Trump from ever being made public. That's it. Putin gets everything he wants and, maybe, Putin lets Trump think he can have Gaza.
I wonder why he’s even worried about any of that anymore; he’s got the US government, his court said he’s untouchable, and the cult will excuse and support everything he does.
Trump Golf Resort Crimea. Crimea is considered a resort area, particularly known as a popular vacation spot for Russians due to its sunny Black Sea beaches, beautiful landscapes, and mild climate. That’s all Putin would need to promise.
well, we already know that the USA cannot be trusted to uphold its agreements, so don't expect them to do so now. For one, as Ukraine, I would ask for the return of 2-3 nuclear missiles.
💔 the collateral damage of Election 2024 will not be contained within our own borders ... the American electorate, both those of us who voted for The Donald and those who didn't even bother to vote, bears responsibility for the turmoil, death, and pain that follows. American exceptionalism, my a^^!
But it's peace in our time! Anyone who knows the Rus knows that they won't stop here. Next on the list will be the Baltics and eventually Poland and Germany.
Appeasement is like putting out a fire by offering it more wood.
That's hilarious and I know you know better. The only negotiation is that Trump gives Putin everything he wants and Putin doesn't release the Kompromat. NATO pullout is next - and then the Fourth Reich can really take shape. #veteransagainsttrump
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This will do nothing but reward the invader at the expense of the invaded. trump is - and forever will be - a traitor.
Ref: Putin's People, C. Belton, 2020
Keep flying drones onto every Russian target.
If Putin remains belligerent, support the Ukranians to roll their tanks into Moscow and surround the war criminal's bunker.
If this doesn't end in the Hague, will this cold war ever end?
America is following suit! Rolling out very and playing dead!
Good luck, Europe.
There are NO excuses for Trump. Except that he just likes giving away other peoples' lands?
The three nations began to draw closer and entered into treaties and pacts to end their isolation.
Trump is isolation the USA.
Russia is isolated
Saudi Arabia will join because of Khashoggi.
Truth bends, reality twists, and facts vanish. You’ve just crossed into... The Trump Zone.
People say they can't afford groceries. The Dems tell them the economy is fine and it's critical that Ukraine gets billions of dollars in aid. It doesn't play. At all.
" He charmed us with money that doesnt exist. We were cast Imperiou curse 🤡 "
That's what they should have done.
They didn't do it because America could be trusted once.
Once.
Moscow will eventually be governed from Beijing without a friendly AmeriKKKa.
The pathological liar thinks we're all poorly educated.
So trump/putin are demanding that a sovereign nation change their constitution, huh?
The United States will pull out of NATO (its coming - NATO looks at us as a direct threat and a Communist country/ally)
Zelenskyy is likely going to be told to accept defeat
They seem incapable of having a normal relationship with anyone.
Gérard Araud says the idea of fighting for democracy is completely alien to Trump
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2025/02/08/will-the-us-go-to-war-for-estonia-or-latvia-former-french-ambassador-on-the-new-world-disorder/
This is how Trump made America Great Again, it is by joining the Evil’s force.
Elon Musk is Darth Vader.
Hope it will still be possible to bring USA away from the dark side.
"With you [Trump] all roads lead to Putin!"
-- Nancy Pelosi
Trump controls GOP. Putin controls Trump.
Smh.
Focus should be on sharing resources that we already generate more fairly.
Slava Ukrainii 🫡🫡🫡🫡🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Of course they are both happy.
Trump will lie to Putin.
Two liars negotiating.
Yay. Let's see what lies they come up with.
Appeasement is like putting out a fire by offering it more wood.
FUCK TRAITOR 45/FELON 47. He'll screw u faster than a $2.00 hooker.
Rinse & Repeat