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brunojnavarro.bsky.social • 3 days ago

the full quote here

https://english.elpais.com/culture/2024-12-15/judith-butler-philosopher-if-you-sacrifice-a-minority-like-trans-people-you-are-operating-within-a-fascist-logic.html

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warrendemcats.bsky.social•3 days ago

Gavin Newsom has invited Charlie Kirk to his podcast and told him he is against trans athletes in sports.

Are we ready for a transphobic white man to lead the Democratic Party in 2028?

crissakentavr.bsky.social•21 hours ago

We are not. He shall never hold office again. We will make it so.

Charlie Kirk is a proud supporter of white supremacy and cut his teeth as a teen on anti marriage equality. His portfolio is all anti ERA.

There's no one in the Democratic caucus who should be platforming him.

littlecults4ever.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Nope. Sorry, Gavin, you decided to cozy up with the former Hitler Youth now member of the SS, and your name is *mud*. /resident of Arizona, tired of Charlie Kirk.

bellyup50.bsky.social•3 days ago

We can support trans rights wo them being in women's sports.

worldly12.bsky.social•2 days ago

Sorry, but you're wrong. No trans person will trust you after hearing this. The "issue" was invented and blown out of proportion for political gain. The interview in this image proves it, and note that even if all those trans athletes were women, they would be distributed over different sports.

worldly12.bsky.social•2 days ago

If you're not a science denier, I can also link some studies for you that determined after a year or two of affirming hormone therapy, trans people's physical abilities were close or equal to that of their cis counterparts

bellyup50.bsky.social•2 days ago

I have no issues w trans folks but until there are many more in our lives, folks who don't understand will not accept & the backlash is not worth it. Stay out of girls sports until there is better understanding & we have ppl in govt who don't use them as scapegoats.

alexandraerin.com•23 hours ago

Fascist fucking piece of shit. You say people won't accept us because we're not around enough, and your solution is to say we shouldn't be around?

alexandraerin.com•23 hours ago

"We can focus on trans rights as long as those rights aren't equal to normal people's rights."

You know what side you are on. Buy a MAGA hat for yourself and get those grandchildren ready for the world you've made for them.

imadifferentbird.bsky.social•23 hours ago

You can't appease bigots. You give them sports, and then they come at you about bathrooms. Or prisons, or domestic abuse shelters, or puberty blockers, or one of the thousand other fronts they're already attacking trans people on. Better to fight them hard wherever they rear their ugly heads.

chrisfumo.bsky.social•14 hours ago

the hilarious thing about this is that Newsom literally agrees that Democrats should help Rs criminalize healthcare for trans people like 25 minutes after conceding on banning trans people from sports! What you are explaining is literally just in the podcast he released!

chrisfumo.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Gavin Newsome - later on in the podcast - explicitly applauds Kirk for demanding the criminalizing of healthcare for various trans people; if you were wondering whether the Republicans and far right will stop trying to eradicate trans people from existence if Democrats help ban them from athletics

chrisfumo.bsky.social•14 hours ago

what do you think about that, Trudy? Should Democrats help Republicans ban healthcare for trans people?

Will doing this - to appeal to moderate voters, of course - lead to "better understanding"

gabjet.bsky.social•19 hours ago

how on earth are we supposed to get people to understood by hiding from public, that's pretty obviously backwards. Most cis people treat trans people like a myth, a theoretical idea, including how you're posting right now. We can't counter that while staying ephemeral.

noimalright.and.cat•23 hours ago

Embarrassing stuff, Trudy! Reminds me of all the talk about how gay people should shut up and accept “civil unions” 20 years ago. Stupid back then, stupid now.

infernatrixsophia.bsky.social•23 hours ago

i have no issues w trudy, but until there are many more like her in our lives, the backlash is not worth it. You need to stop having a public existence until there is a better understanding & we don't have ppl in govt who will use you as a scapegoat.

flootzavut.bsky.social•18 hours ago

Appeasing bigots just leads to them being more bigoted & demanding more concessions to their bigotry. It doesn't work & it harms the victims of bigotry in the meantime. So no, you're wrong.

janetheghost.bsky.social•22 hours ago

Are there any more parts of society you would like us purged from? Should we not have bank accounts, to avoid backlash from the tellers? Maybe we could give up using the Post Office. We wouldn't want any mail carriers to feel mildly uncomfortable and deal with it by becoming Nazis.

bellyup50.bsky.social•2 days ago

I understand that. Others refuse to listen.

belovedsnail.bsky.social•19 hours ago

So don’t tell trans people to hide, use your god given voice to speak up.

flootzavut.bsky.social•18 hours ago

Then your reaction should not be "hide till people are used to you", it should be "I will lend you my voice & my solidarity & will keep doing so until your presence is accepted."

crankypacifist.bsky.social•23 hours ago

No. We cannot.

imadifferentbird.bsky.social•23 hours ago

If you think that, you haven't actually talked with any trans people about the issue.

veryrealbatman.bsky.social•22 hours ago

Nope, relegates them to second class citizenship. Further interesting you don’t say anything about trans men. Should they participate in women’s or men’s sports?

chrisfumo.bsky.social•14 hours ago

what exactly do these people think the justification was for jews and black people being banned from competing in sports

belovedsnail.bsky.social•19 hours ago

No, we cannot. It’s a wedge issue. Republican lies to try to force us apart:

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