If the DOJ is going to punish its attorneys for being candid with the courts, it stands to reason that courts can no longer assume DOJ attorneys will fulfill their duty of candor.
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It is a sad day in America when the criminals run the justice system. The Doj and the Supreme Court has forsaken the constitution and the people of America. We are under the control of a mentally ill narcissist. We must stand and rise against the tyranny of the present Facism.
The loudest Christians are the ones who most desperately need the salvation. They are relying entirely on vicarious atonement because they know they have sinned, will continue to sin, and will never seek atonement on their own.
I have had and continue to have many people in my life who wear this type of jewelry. I’ve worn it myself. Almost no one makes a big deal about making sure it’s displayed. The few that do are the ones you can’t trust as far as you can throw them.
When their focus shifts from deeply held personal beliefs to public displays like rooting for a sports team, that's when you know they are on the wrong side of this.
Same with politics and patriotism.
As soon as they shift from "this is best for me" to "this is best", they are lost.
It’s protection from the evil they know they are mired in. A defensive crouch. The crucifix as a mechanism to distract and posture, and finally, to ward off their vampire of a leader.
This is a hostile takeover of the government we pay for! Remember these people and let’s make sure that everyone who is complicit gets the justice they deserve!
If she is going to take the position that the DOJ attorneys must lie to the courts or be put on leave, pretty soon she is going to be the only one left. SHE will have to go to court herself to present the gov's cases.
What are the ethical/professional standards to be a member of the bar? It seems that the DOJ attorneys and certainly Pam Bondi have tossed those out when they gave up their souls to this regime. Aren’t there repercussions for that?
star chamber Barbie...looks like an update of the "Stepford wives...political version" "The Rupert wives" Fox seems to have an endless supply of this stereotype. giving blonds a bad name...sez someone who was once blond about 30 years ago
Is there anyone who still cares for us? Has the flame of humanity faded from hearts? The world is terrifying, filled with death and destruction, as if this suffering isn't enough! We plead with you, not just for us but to keep humanity alive.
This is where we're headed. Attorney's are ethically bound to give their clients, including their employers, independent legal advice, & as officers of the court, are sworn to speak the truth. You want your lawyer to tell you the truth, not what you want to hear. That is the road to disaster.
Courts should sanction individual Trump DOJ attorneys who deceive the court or abuse the court process and rules; enter disbarment; refer them to state bar disciplinary committees.
The US lawyer clearly had zero information on the circumstances surrounding the ‘abduction’ and sounds like he hated having to be there and lie and fake advocate for what he knew was wrong. Pam is evil.
When the courts eventually draw the line, the highest level officials from Trump's administration as well as "advisors" who are not officials need to be put in jail for contempt. Let's see some of that action.
Actually the attorney took the oath to the Constitution seriously and would not lie. Blame every member of the GOP Congress who is not putting a stop to all these illegal activities by a non approved, unfunded, unconstitutional department. As well as a unvetted Head of said dept. by the Senate. 🤡🤡🤡
The lawyer's mistake was not standing tall on the Imperial Presidency theory that the White House and AG Bondi support.
When asked for the legal authority to seize immigrants, AG Bondi expected the attorney to assert that the Alien Enemies Act gives the president authority to act unilaterally.
The depth of dishonor and failure of the current POTUS, VP and minions has no bottom. A stain on their honor, their families, their party, their communities and our nation. We elected a convicted felon with a lifetime record of dishonor, bankruptcies and failed relationships. Now their tyranny. sad!
These jackasses are lying, evil, incompetent, and immoral people and lack any values beyond fealty to the feculent orange homunculus. They don’t care about Americans or democracy.
If the DOJ is going to punish its attorneys for not lying to the courts, it stands to reason that courts can no longer assume DOJ attorneys will tell the truth.
The DOJ takes highly dubious legal positions,but then disciplines individual attorneys who are honest with the court (as the rules of professional conduct require). This is not how a government should be run.
1/2 I don't know this whole situation just messes with my mind. I naively assumed that when you deport somebody it was mandatory that you deport them to a country that they have citizenship in.
2/2 It never occurred to me that you could just randomly deport somebody to a prison (concentration camp) under a dictatorship that the person had never been in. But we are talking about an administration that defies court orders. I don't believe that sending Garcia to El Salvador was an accident.
She is a viper. Has no respect for the law, justice - The Constitution. A fraud. She holds a position that women fought like hell for -- she cannot even honor that well. Disbar her -- in the end she will go to prison-her signature is all over those documents . Her boss made sure of that.
If she thinks the government lawyer should have done a better job, she should try it herself.
DOJ lawyers are now faced with an impossible choice: either be fired for being honest with the court (as required by professional ethics rules), or destroy any future legal career once this regime is done.
Reminds me of the opening scene from the old Jim Carrey movie "Liar, Liar" where the boy says his dad is a liar, then describes what he does every day, and the teacher says "Oh you mean a lawyer!"
That is not fair to the many lawyers who uphold the rule of law consistently, in which group I am proud to count my husband. Clearly, the two DOJ folks whom Bondi fired also belong to that group.
This wasn't about your husband, the lawyers who DO practice with a sense of ethics, or the two DOJ employees that were effectively terminated, but at what the Department was saying they expected of their lawyers. If that wasn't clear to you, then I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. No ill will meant
If a lawyer lies in court and gets caught in that lie, do they suffer consequences, like losing their law credentials? So either lie for Pam Bondi, lose credentials and reputation, or don’t lie for Pam Bondi and get put on indefinite administrative leave. The choice is clear - don’t lie for Pam.
I love that their take on this is a different attorney could have made tastier stone soup. More beautiful invisible clothes. And that the judge is dumb enough to have fallen for it.
The attorney is struggling because the DOJ's position is clearly wrong, and there is no legal basis to argue otherwise. They need to admit this, but there is a better likelihood of snow on a hot day in August.
Unfortunately our once
esteemed DOJ has been
stripped of its integrity
+independence.
They are led by a
Trump puppet+
staffed by unqualified
F grade attorneys.
They act as Trumps
personal attorneys.
As we know, Trump
is a crime machine +
needs legal help on
a regular basis. We
deserve better.
@governor.ca.gov
California is so very proud of our governor, Gavin Newsom. He has gone around don to develop trade agreements with international trade partners such as Mexico 🇲🇽, Canada 🇨🇦
EU and others.
Will your governor step up and fight back as well?
Bondi’s not smart enough to get out of the many holes she (and Trump) has dug the DOJ into - instead of firing people she’s just using staff as martyrs now!
If a court can’t trust you, then there is little chance of winning your argument. If Bondi doesn’t care that DOJ lawyers are trusted, then she doesn’t care if they win. The only reason not to care if they win, is that Bondi has no intention to comply when they lose.
No answers.
US C&B ICE agents deported multiple US citizens without due process.
Deported multiple citizens to nations they are not from to get rid of US citizens.
No Due Process.
Gave citizen no civil right protections afforded him.
Violation of the Geneva Convention.
USA violated Geneva Convention
I can't even. Grossly unprofessional from the people in charge. You'd expect it a a football game. Not sending people who knows where. And literally, I don't know if our government knows where it's sending people. Or who they are. Or why they were detained. Or if due process is even a thing anymore
Exactly. It’s terrifying to see this ‘new normal’ in the US — the language, the lack of transparency, the disregard for due process. You must not stay silent. Speak up, even when it feels overwhelming or hopeless.
For everybody waiting for the dems or progressives to find a unified voice, maybe it's yours. I told teachers at the beginning of the year that to be productive, we needed to communicate, commiserate, and collaborate. It's true in politics as well.
As both Obama and Booker reminded us this week — it’s the people who can save the country! All Americans must stand up and fight for democracy now. And yes — if new voices are needed, it could be anyone. Obama, Harris, Clinton and Booker were once just ‘ordinary people’ who spoke up.
Bar associations need to start disbarring DOJ attorneys if they don’t fulfill their ethical obligations and don’t present Trump Administration cases in a proper manner.
We need to use every tool to push back against these people.
It seems like a disproportionate amount of this is actually being done by political appointees so it seems like a lot of the career staff who'd actually care about that are avoiding there already.
Apparently Pam Bondi not doing her job if she could not supply her attorney generals with the information they needed to present a case. And this administration will consistently lose cases as they did before as they don't know the law
This is effing crazy. A lawyer's duty is to be truthful with the court. DOJ is effectively telling their attorneys that ethics no longer matter, only pure fealty to DJT, no matter the cost.
Reuveni was in there, unarmed and unarmoured?
Told to hold a position that was indefensible. Reading through the lines, he's saying that he doesn't know what's going on and they're not telling him anything. I would be frustrated too.
"Your honor, my answer to a lot of these questions is going to be frustrating, and I'm also frustrated that I have no answers for you on a lot of these questions," Reuveni said.
Being required to "zealously" advocate for the interests of the United States....hmmm. What does that mean exactly? I could argue that fighting for an individual's civil rights was zealously advocating for the US interests.
Time for Pam Bondi to go. We need an attorney general who does the job as it's defined, keeps the oath to the Constitution and protects the rights of Americans. Perhaps law schools need to step up and start canceling law degrees for attorneys who violate their oath.
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Same with politics and patriotism.
As soon as they shift from "this is best for me" to "this is best", they are lost.
The Bible even admonishes public worship!
I will say that the vicarious atonement at the heart of Christianity does not discourage sin or encourage virtue.
Please cover this. This is the calm before the storm.
Can't wait for that to happen.
(Trump’s former lawyer),
To tell the judge to ‘pound sand’.
*
Trump speaks form the mouths
of all of his administration appointees.
Trump is a cult dictator
of the collective-self
of the Trump’s appointed
government administration.
Jim Jones, David Koresh
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Illegal. Fascist. Sedition.
When asked for the legal authority to seize immigrants, AG Bondi expected the attorney to assert that the Alien Enemies Act gives the president authority to act unilaterally.
The bar is out of her jurisdiction, isn't it.
Can’t wait to hear his congressional testimony someday….
DOJ lawyers are now faced with an impossible choice: either be fired for being honest with the court (as required by professional ethics rules), or destroy any future legal career once this regime is done.
Purely Fascist.
Soon, they'll only have Alina Habba or Bondi & her assistant to argue every case...
She should be disbarred.
Nothing except a divine intervention can stop this clusterfuck.
esteemed DOJ has been
stripped of its integrity
+independence.
They are led by a
Trump puppet+
staffed by unqualified
F grade attorneys.
They act as Trumps
personal attorneys.
As we know, Trump
is a crime machine +
needs legal help on
a regular basis. We
deserve better.
California is so very proud of our governor, Gavin Newsom. He has gone around don to develop trade agreements with international trade partners such as Mexico 🇲🇽, Canada 🇨🇦
EU and others.
Will your governor step up and fight back as well?
1 still working for this regime
AND
2 as likely to speak truth versus lying
there are lessons to be learned here
#politics
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-invites-el-salvadors-bukele-white-house-working-visit
"If you don't lie to the judge like I told you, you will regret it."
She is a criminal co-conspirator of President Bleach-Blond Bimbo.
US C&B ICE agents deported multiple US citizens without due process.
Deported multiple citizens to nations they are not from to get rid of US citizens.
No Due Process.
Gave citizen no civil right protections afforded him.
Violation of the Geneva Convention.
USA violated Geneva Convention
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TTY/TDD: 800-877-8339
We need to use every tool to push back against these people.
Reuveni was in there, unarmed and unarmoured?
Told to hold a position that was indefensible. Reading through the lines, he's saying that he doesn't know what's going on and they're not telling him anything. I would be frustrated too.
And the legal industry has a very long memory.
It is very difficult to walk out of an active case and keep your license, I do applaud for not lying, or trying to deceive the court.