This passage in The New Yorker, definitively proves the IDF systematically breaks international law *and* lies about it. Firsthand testimony of medical equipment “methodically” destroyed. But, IDF spokesperson: “Claims that the IDF deliberately targets medical equipment are unequivocally false.” - ThreadSky

nkalamb.bsky.social • 3 days ago

This passage in The New Yorker, definitively proves the IDF systematically breaks international law *and* lies about it.

Firsthand testimony of medical equipment “methodically” destroyed.

But, IDF spokesperson: “Claims that the IDF deliberately targets medical equipment are unequivocally false.”

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poems4themasses.bsky.social•2 days ago

I think the issue isn’t only that IDF lies and lies and lies…… and kills civilians, and tortures prisoners and commits genocide: it’s that my government is not only doing fuck all to prevent this, but they are giving Israel both the moral authority and the military capability to do so.

nkalamb.bsky.social•3 days ago

The full article:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/04/28/hospitals-in-ruins?mbid=social_twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_brand=tny&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=twitter

annette4climate.bsky.social•1 day ago

Yes, very bad.
It is also unwise of Hamas to use hospitals as their boltholes.
Anyone who watches that conflict must have seen copious evidence of the connecting tunnels.

tarektoverso.bsky.social•2 days ago

They have a PhD in Lie-ology.

wallybuan0.bsky.social•2 days ago

Remember how insistent they all were that the first hospital to be damaged was by an errant Hamas rocket?

Now *every* hospital has been razed and the world just watches

nathanalderman.bsky.social•2 days ago

Sometimes you quote the lie after the truth to make the monstrousness of the lie more apparent to the reader?

jewels1961.bsky.social•3 days ago

As a Jew, Netanyahu’ actions do NOT align with my values as a Jew. He must be brought up on War Crimes. Now. “Never again” is Now.

flexasauruswrex.bsky.social•3 days ago

jiggsy.bsky.social•3 days ago

🤮👎🏿🐖🗑️🤬

bazbro.bsky.social•2 days ago

It's actually quite simple to understand. The IDF & by extension the Israeli Govt look at Palestinian people as less than human, therefore any thing or object that could be used to sustain Palestinian life must be destroyed. Until the rest of the world stops playing games with Israel it will keep on

annette4climate.bsky.social•1 day ago

I watched far too much of 7/10 as it uploaded unedited
I still don't look at Palestinians as "less than human" but it lowered my support for them.
If Gazan people surrendered to Israel they would be be no worse off than the German population was after WWII.
Cradle of Terror https://youtu.be/zDt36hsvNK8?si=UbQJn6VENIfvYb-6

rollforphobia.bsky.social•2 days ago

It’s the little things in the atrocities, like how they’re too fucking thick to bust up the medical equipment with rebar or another item of medical equipment or just dropping it from height, and are instead blowing ammo on this and removing all doubt. Only-knows-one-verb ass military.

mskathleenquinn.bsky.social•3 days ago

Who is this naif who was stunned to see incontrovertible evidence that Israeli soldiers systematically destroy everything needed to sustain a Palestinian's life? Does he not know this is what the IDF is trained to do? He could have watched No Other Land. Seventy years of this, down to toothbrushes.

tmcallister.bsky.social•2 days ago

rather than assuming the journalist doing in-depth reporting is an ignorant fool, perhaps consider that this is simply a narrative tool he's using to tell a clear story to skeptical readers.

adamoprice.bsky.social•2 days ago

I insist that even if an article agrees with my political view, it must make it clear I have been right about the topic for decades

mskathleenquinn.bsky.social•2 days ago

You like being tooled by journalists? I don't. A good editor would ask the author the same questions I posted and then the answers would be for all to see. If you know about the Israel's daily behavior through decades of occupation, it's puzzling this writer doesn't, and it goes to credibility.

tmcallister.bsky.social•2 days ago

No, this is a dumb way to read, sorry.

mskathleenquinn.bsky.social•2 days ago

I have to ask (but you don't have to answer): Do you see it as news that IDF soldiers are set the task to systematically destroy every life saving thing they find in Gaza? When did you become aware a genocide is taking place in Gaza?

tmcallister.bsky.social•2 days ago

The assumption of malice and ignorance on my part and on the journalist's part is weird and annoying, and I'd suggest that it is a waste of time for you to be angry at me because I think the writing in that excerpt is fine

mskathleenquinn.bsky.social•2 days ago

I'm a retired editor for a NY publication in existence longer than the NY'ér with 50 times the readership. David Remnick has been downplaying the genocide in Gaza for more than a year, and now wants to readers to think no in-depth journalist could have known a genocide was going on. Dumb? Immoral.

tmcallister.bsky.social•2 days ago

misskrisss.bsky.social•3 days ago

There's so much evil. These people who can do this are as bad as hamas.

therealetux.bsky.social•2 days ago

It's a genocide and they are using all means.

kaelik.bsky.social•2 days ago

Really feel like journalists need to adapt to the modern world.

Used to be journalists would write what each people said and people would try to present convincing lies.

Now every bad actor treats a journalistic inquiry as a chance to promote the official lie that their side will pretend to

kaelik.bsky.social•2 days ago

Believe. Of course it's clear from the story that the I'd are lying, but that doesn't matter.

Every pro genocide person is just going to read that and be like, "ah, thank you idf for telling me the position I should pretend to believe" and immediately forget the rest of the story.

lmh82.bsky.social•2 days ago

Israel isn't a member of the ICC, unfortunately.

nkalamb.bsky.social•2 days ago

There’s a reason they have chosen to opt out of international law.

douglasurner.bsky.social•2 days ago

What does this mean in the context of crimes of universal jurisdiction like genocide?

mskathleenquinn.bsky.social•2 days ago

More than opt-out. They set attack dogs on international law every chance they get.

lmh82.bsky.social•2 days ago

The US is complicit. 78% of Americans live in states where it is illegal to boycott or criticize the Israeli Apartheid Government. https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/04/23/us-states-use-anti-boycott-laws-punish-responsible-businesses

lmh82.bsky.social•2 days ago

I know. The US is also not a member of the ICC nor did we sign onto the Rome Statute even though we helped write most of it. Because 'US citizens are subject only to the jurisdiction of US courts for crimes committed on US soil'.

chewieartist.bsky.social•3 days ago

Sea access is so important for Palestine. They can never rebuild if everything has to go through Israel. But maybe at this point every country needs to take them in. Then cut off Israel from civilization until they fix their shit. Syria needs people to help rebuild. Give them free housing to help.

mskathleenquinn.bsky.social•2 days ago

Palestinians don't need to leave. They just need a chance to survive. Israel won't fix its shit if it continues to think it can live forever in bunker, bombing everything outside it's walls for "security." It needs to join the civilized world--whatever true democracies still remain or can be created

chewieartist.bsky.social•2 days ago

I'm going to have to pull a I'm not an expert and I don't know how to fix this.

annominos.bsky.social•3 days ago

War crimes

bradbrookjenny.bsky.social•3 days ago

😱😱😱

radiospanishspeak.bsky.social•3 days ago

fuck zion

ianausbrit.bsky.social•3 days ago

IDF are lying , it's obvious they have been targeting anything that helps sustain Palestinian life. It's Genocide. The world's richest countries are ignoring it based on pro Israel media who take Israel at it's word even when the evidence is blatantly obvious.

annette4climate.bsky.social•1 day ago

It's a war & both sides are probably lying
I'm a leftist, non jew
Could Hamas leave the hospitals?
Like Germans post WWII, Gazans must surrender
https://youtu.be/hwpchsSe5dI?si=33frvUwTWdP04vQD
https://electronicintifada.net/content/horror-horror/25851
Amnesty
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/05/gaza-palestinians-tortured-summarily-killed-by-hamas-forces-during-2014-conflict/
Hamas charter https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

ianausbrit.bsky.social•1 day ago

I have seen loads of stories of tunnels to hospitals, obviously Hamas want a way to take wounded terrorists / freedom fighters, without being under Israeli view. Using hospitals as cover have not been proven. Surrender to what prison or often blatant murder.

annette4climate.bsky.social•1 day ago

The simplest explanation is that they just want shelter somewhere where they won't be bombed & don't give a fuck about civilians.
They seem to think they will be better off becoming martyrs
Hamas charter - https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

ianausbrit.bsky.social•1 day ago

I do not agree, Israel bombed hospitals and took doctors to jail, they then allowed western media to film inside hospitals with IDF stewards who on several occasions misled film crews what they were seeing. I can find any number of studies that support Israels position, doesn't make it true.

annette4climate.bsky.social•1 day ago

Agree to disagree
If people of any importance in Gaza are not Hamas they tend to die
Palestinians tortured & killed by Hamas - https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/05/gaza-palestinians-tortured-summarily-killed-by-hamas-forces-during-2014-conflict/

catatart473.bsky.social•2 days ago

Lying liars

partickle.bsky.social•2 days ago

👀

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