Something darkly comic about the Trump administration, run by shameless liars from the very top, forcing polygraph tests on some employees. Trump, Vance, Musk, Noem, Lewandowski, et al, should take polygraph tests to set a good example. www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat... - ThreadSky

billkristolbulwark.bsky.social • 5 days ago

Something darkly comic about the Trump administration, run by shameless liars from the very top, forcing polygraph tests on some employees. Trump, Vance, Musk, Noem, Lewandowski, et al, should take polygraph tests to set a good example.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/dhs-begun-performing-polygraph-tests-employees-find-leakers-rcna195485

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marebears.bsky.social•4 days ago

You have to have a conscience for a lie detector to accurately detect lying.

bulldawg42.bsky.social•4 days ago

It's a POLYGRAPH, not a LIE DETECTOR.

marebears.bsky.social•4 days ago

Polygraphs are designed to pick up when someone is not telling the truth or lying.

bulldawg42.bsky.social•4 days ago

Nope. All they do is measure physiographic responses. It's up to the tarot reader behind the machine to look at the tea leaves and zodiacal charts and make up some bullshit.
The scientific community calls total bullshit on them.

marebears.bsky.social•3 days ago

It's not admissible in a court of law because it has its drawbacks. The physiological response is stress as a result of the person not telling the truth. When it's not accurate, it is generally because the person is a sociopath and does not have a conscience- which was my point.

bulldawg42.bsky.social•3 days ago

They are total bullshit. And the examiners fuck with you to get whatever physiological response they are looking for. Again, there is NO scientific basis for it being a "lie detector."

bm0330.bsky.social•4 days ago

Make it live on air

antipolygraph.bsky.social•5 days ago

Those facing mandatory polygraph "testing" may wish to read up on this pseudoscience. We publish a free guide and encourage all to download a copy: https://antipolygraph.org/pubs.shtml

jayenne.bsky.social•4 days ago

Except that lie detecting isn't the point. It's calculated intimidation.

antipolygraph.bsky.social•4 days ago

The lie detector is considerably less intimidating when one understands the fraudulent nature of the procedure. In the United States, many have been convinced through a century of propaganda that the government is capable of reading minds through the use of polygraphs.

jayenne.bsky.social•4 days ago

They will no doubt go through the rigmarole, treating employees like criminals regardless of how they "perform" in the test.

antipolygraph.bsky.social•4 days ago

Perhaps. So far we have little information about how DHS is using polygraphs in its leak investigations.

jayenne.bsky.social•4 days ago

Well, I hope it's just more bluster (also very unsettling, I know).

jetblackbox.bsky.social•5 days ago

yeah such a scam. 100% of the time they tell you the polygraph indicated you are being deceptive in order to shake you up and make you confess. Modern day witch trial stuff.

astrachanegg.bsky.social•5 days ago

This must be unconstitutional

yesicanidiot911.bsky.social•5 days ago

This isn't a civil rights violation?? Forced polygraphs isn't some kind of violation??

riwoche.bsky.social•5 days ago

Musk's polygraph exam could begin with questions about his latest lies:

myanulrich.bsky.social•5 days ago

They are not interested in transparency just cruelty.

grannygrayrock.bsky.social•5 days ago

Sociopaths/Psychopaths rarely have a problem passing a polygraph, so what's the point?

sluggo21.bsky.social•5 days ago

And MAGA’s cried about their freedom when asked to wear a mask. This intrusion is way worse.

ellegiguere.bsky.social•4 days ago

Yes, make them show us how it's done! New policy for the campaign trail going forward, if we're lucky.

amyjo33.bsky.social•5 days ago

Polygraphs are not reliable, which is why they can't be used in criminal trials. All this means is people will be fired unjustly.

katecohenart.bsky.social•4 days ago

And they can say you failed … 2025 fascist witch hunts.

pedalbackwards67.bsky.social•5 days ago

I don’t think this is even remotely legal!!

robertroy.bsky.social•5 days ago

Actually it is legal. Before I retired I was an IT contractor and had to take a polygraph for my clearance. Homeland folk have clearances.

pedalbackwards67.bsky.social•5 days ago

For your clearance. But is it legal while you’re employee?

robertroy.bsky.social•5 days ago

DHS employees have clearences

ibitpichu.bsky.social•5 days ago

They're not looking for leaks. They're trying to instill fear to create irrational behaviour they can use and manipulate.

toototabon1.bsky.social•5 days ago

Psychopaths often pass those.

daver2000.bsky.social•5 days ago

almahawes.bsky.social•4 days ago

Polygraph tests are unreliable to the point of usefulness. Their use in the USA is but one of the many things that make me think rather a lot of Americans might be stupid.

xs4me2.bsky.social•5 days ago

Start with Trump and ask him about Putin...

pham60.bsky.social•5 days ago

If the info isn’t classified the first amendment trumps. Pun intended.

pham60.bsky.social•5 days ago

Illegal?

mariejo1965.bsky.social•5 days ago

As awful as it is to write it,I believe that the problem of the Americans is that they never lived under fascism for years,never had to daily suffer this atrocity.People were like zombies
You don’t want to face it,U hope it’s not so dramatic,but it’s happening right now:Americans will suffer so much

13beans.bsky.social•5 days ago

Do employees have to submit to that?

robertroy.bsky.social•5 days ago

DHS employees have clearances and can be required to take a polygraph test

dndtch.bsky.social•4 days ago

Every worker should demand a lie detector test from the boss aka POTUS or tell them to fuck off.

raflw.bsky.social•5 days ago

It's just dark.

dannadair.bsky.social•5 days ago

A test proven to be worthless unless you have an axe to grind!

mindingmyattention.bsky.social•5 days ago

A Trumpian haiku:

First try the poly.
And then Kash orders a tail.
When do we tee off?

chaunciliscious.bsky.social•5 days ago

I actually think Trump is a big enough of a psychopath that he could relatively easily lie on a polygraph and pass

bulldawg42.bsky.social•4 days ago

Four of the worst spies in u s history all past theirs, sometimes several of them.

chelseyh.bsky.social•5 days ago

Fuck me, this is some dark shit. Hard to believe every headline I read is something actually happening in America.

lainiebird.bsky.social•5 days ago

Surely they’re testing to make sure ALL employees can lie effectively?

schatzkin.bsky.social•5 days ago

I believe you left out the most unabashed and full-of-crap liar Bondi. She seems constitutionally unable to tell the truth.

david-pax.bsky.social•5 days ago

Trump is so used to lying that the polygraph can't catch him. Maybe he even believes what he says. He is constantly making up his own "reality ".

chiconh.bsky.social•5 days ago

Wow - imagine Fox News if a Dem admin was doing this.

osprey1460.bsky.social•5 days ago

The polygraph machine would explode.

harriet75.bsky.social•5 days ago

More WTF? Coming out of my mouth

chrisfahim.bsky.social•5 days ago

Throw some drug tests in there too.

alolmsted.bsky.social•4 days ago

Teachers, nurses, social workers, etc. all have to keep up their certification through continuing education, and have to pass initial exams for professional licenses. It's interesting that politicians only need to convince voters that they are worthy of their votes. No other qualifications.

thebabysitter.bsky.social•5 days ago

Welcome to the police state, comrades.

dangermouse911.bsky.social•5 days ago

Give the poor polygraph machines a break.

charlesboebinger.bsky.social•5 days ago

I think it’s entirely fitting, given the unreliability of polygraphs and their premise seeming almost designed to select in favor of delusional sociopaths. I have no doubt all of them would pass easily, save perhaps Vance who seems more aware of his own dishonesty.

kbattani.bsky.social•5 days ago

Could be they are so easy to figure out that you don’t need a leaker? 🤡

jdinjc.bsky.social•5 days ago

One question they should ask krispi knoem, do you use fillers and Botox?

chardypeeres.bsky.social•5 days ago

This cannot be legal. It sounds like invasion of privacy….

jnaomi.bsky.social•5 days ago

The machine would breakdown in an apoplexic fit of overburdened electrical signals.

bluecjp.bsky.social•4 days ago

That’s criminal!

hobohemia.bsky.social•5 days ago

If my boss walked in with a polygraph suddenly, I would absolutely fail it, regardless of complete innocence. They are famously inaccurate, especially in these kind of situations. Fascists gonna fasc. -sigh-

shurao.bsky.social•5 days ago

These people are so deranged

vesuvan.bsky.social•5 days ago

He's going to find a reason to implant Musk's brain chip to track their every move

castanton.bsky.social•5 days ago

Trump, Vance, Musk, Noem, Lewandowski, et al should have to get for real security clearances following for real investigations.

p2can.bsky.social•5 days ago

Yeah, keep an extra set of batteries handy for that bunch...

kboss1.bsky.social•5 days ago

Oh, what a good idea !!
Loooong list of candidates

michellenonumbr.bsky.social•5 days ago

rules are for thee, but not for me

rootysmom.bsky.social•5 days ago

Imagine if all government employees walked out. We need a national strike.

robert444.bsky.social•5 days ago

It would make 15% of the population joyous

bulldawg42.bsky.social•4 days ago

The Intel Community does that to all it's TS cleared people approx every 5 years.

bossyzana.bsky.social•5 days ago

This is some crazy paranoid shit.

kevmcorwin.bsky.social•5 days ago

Machine would catch fire.

ktdallas.bsky.social•5 days ago

They should put one on them every time they’re speaking publicly and show the results live on tv 😂

valligurlz.bsky.social•5 days ago

Trump can't take a polygraph. He doesn't tell the truth long enough for the machine to be calibrated.

morewretchthansage.bsky.social•1 day ago

They are a tool of intimidation rather than detection. If you know anyone who might be falsely accused and worried - here's how to beat them.

https://bsky.app/profile/morewretchthansage.bsky.social/post/3lk6lkjiv2q26

mikhos57.bsky.social•5 days ago

And drug tests.

scottthomsen.bsky.social•5 days ago

They would pass because they can lie without shame.

esscuk.bsky.social•4 days ago

That whole group belongs in Guantanamo

bluecarcharodon.bsky.social•5 days ago

We are a corrupt government.

mike9669.bsky.social•5 days ago

IF Trump WAS a Russian plant:
Destroy US Economy - Tarriffs on Allies, Stock Market in freefall - CHECK
Destroy NATO - Tell Europe they are the problem and betray our democratic ally, Ukraine - CHECK
Destroy US Govt - Fill cabibet with unqualified clowns, gut ALL agencies - CHECK
Hmmmmmmmm…

pedelpusher.bsky.social•5 days ago

Since they have no empathy, moral compass or honor they'd all pass it even though they'd be lying

lordpet.bsky.social•5 days ago

Polygraphs measure anxiety. Take a couple Valium and have at it

williamsb1971.bsky.social•4 days ago

Something tells me those soulless lizards would pass

justicemattersusa.bsky.social•5 days ago

This is worse than McCarthyism by the current #GOPutin party Commies who have no shame nor #Patriotism to America or the U.S. Constitution. How much lower will the Trump #MAGA #Traitors go. They have no bottom.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

chunkx013.bsky.social•5 days ago

I’m sure she just wants to show up with a blow out and a vest to an another tv raid. Big mad.

linmet.bsky.social•5 days ago

Wow

bulldawg42.bsky.social•4 days ago

Fucks couches.

threekids5.bsky.social•5 days ago

When I was 17 I had to take a polygraph for employment. I failed it four times. Finally the polygrapher rated it as General Nervous Tension-Pass. It would be GNT today too.

heidislisher.bsky.social•5 days ago

🫤

kstroopwafel.bsky.social•5 days ago

Stasi tactics

guernser.bsky.social•5 days ago

Hook the co-presidents up to lie detectors and ask them about their communications with Putin.

joek5.bsky.social•5 days ago

Not one would pass.

archivelady.bsky.social•5 days ago

I don't think polygraphs work on sociopaths

lfeatfan.bsky.social•5 days ago

Are they looking for leaks or people who aren't loyal enough. It would be interesting to know what questions they're asking. Do they start off with who's your daddy?

ewaters101.bsky.social•5 days ago

They can't take a polygraph. The machines would break. Literally!

wythekari.bsky.social•5 days ago

When will the firing squads line up to commence?

oldionus.bsky.social•5 days ago

Well, except, as you would expect from these idiots, the test is USELESS. Although some organizations use them, the scientific reliability of polygraphs has repeatedly been shown to be pretty much zip.

savewhoyoucan.bsky.social•5 days ago

We Americans out there, arguing about who is to blame, what to do. Listen to him.

We now have two choices. Live free or kneel to your MAGA king like a slave.

Color? Gender? Race? Immigrant? Rural? Urban? Worker? Boss? Poor? Rich? Red? Blue? Your flag is one of these.

I know which one is mine.