Labour is paying for free advertising for Reform. Reform are definitely winning the next election aren't they :-( - ThreadSky

katymontgomerie.com • 13 days ago

Labour is paying for free advertising for Reform. Reform are definitely winning the next election aren't they :-(

"Today Starmer will attempt to counter Farage’s party with a series of hardhitting videos on immigration. The party has also run adverts with Reform-style branding and messaging." Times

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thecalmseas.bsky.social•13 days ago

You'd hoped Labour learned from the past that pandering to racists just leads to alienating their own voter base, and the racists just vote reform anyway. However Sir Kieth of Blandness still thinks it's a great idea, along with the morons that are in his inner circle.

cactusjon.bsky.social•13 days ago

It's terrifying how incompetent Labour are. Telling people "we're doing what Reform want to do, using Reform branding" and think that will encourage people to vote for them and not Reform.
These are Mr Bean levels of buffoonery.

outie.bsky.social•13 days ago

I refer to "The Daily Starmer" for that thing when you wake up in the morning and look at your phone and your first words for the day are "for FUCK'S sake"

trojanbore.bsky.social•13 days ago

kylora2112.bsky.social•13 days ago

Democrats in the US. Don't learn from them.

cdca.bsky.social•13 days ago

cassitastrophe.bsky.social•13 days ago

Unless something major changes, yeah probably.

cindymichels.bsky.social•13 days ago

Sadly yes! They lost a lot of LGBT people, disabled people, Black people, poor people, working people.....I mean what the fuck are they for? 🤔

unicornsrockuk.bsky.social•13 days ago

Themselves!

tgnprofessor.bsky.social•13 days ago

But see, if Labour spend five years saying Reform are right about everything and implementing all their policies, then by the time of the election everything still sucks, people will calmly realise these policies were bad and vote Labour to do different policies. I am a smart political strategist.

sarahviktoria.bsky.social•13 days ago

Because this was exactly what happened last time, right?

carbonark.bsky.social•13 days ago

Nah, Reform/UKIP/Brexit support always comes from angry Tories, because Reform are a right wing protest/reactionary party. The Tory party would have to collapse nationally for Reform to be anything more than "the reason we have lots of Labour MP's"...which is why we currently have lots of labour MPs

turpywurpy.bsky.social•13 days ago

Have you been paying attention? The Tory party IS collapsing nationally. Tory counsellors are flocking to Reform in droves.

carbonark.bsky.social•13 days ago

Because councillors don't decide elections and the Tory party is collapsing now about as much as they were in 2015 the last time Farage's party got 4 million votes. It doesn't last. Maybe you need to pay more attention 👍

turpywurpy.bsky.social•13 days ago

The last time Farage's party got 4 millions votes the Tories hadn't just had their most devastating election loss in decades. The Tory voters who voted Labour this election will be regretting it and looking to vote for someone else again, and it won't be the Tories this time either.

carbonark.bsky.social•13 days ago

You have a pretty paranoid, overly imaginative view of the British population, that they flock en masse to third parties, but they don't and they never have. So relax, you're embarrassing yourself

turpywurpy.bsky.social•13 days ago

At this point I don't think it's possible to have a paranoid view of the British population

carbonark.bsky.social•13 days ago

2019 Labour suffered its biggest loss in decades and a bunch of Labour voters voted Tory, which they then regretted. Did they all flock to the greens at the next election? No. Tories won't flock to Reform because thats not how people work 👍 they'll just go back to the Tories, like they always do.

agirlcalleddave.bsky.social•13 days ago

Imagine Churchill saying we would join the Nazi’s 🤦‍♀️ We truly are led by donkeys (jackasses) ✊🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈

edamlarson.bsky.social•13 days ago

I'd say yes, but so much stupid stuff keeps happening that who the hell knows where we'll be in 2029.
Personally I'm betting on Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism being implemented, got to live in hope right?

rodsonofgod.bsky.social•13 days ago

Something we can all get behind 👍

blubbator.bsky.social•13 days ago

Why does the biggest nominally "left" party do this in every country?

Dems in US, SPD in Germany, Labour in UK all going into elections (or general messaging) with "actually we're the biggest deporters".

sarahviktoria.bsky.social•13 days ago

All is going according to plan.

sophie-black.bsky.social•13 days ago

It’s anyone’s guess. There are going to be three obnoxious right-wing parties vying for power at the next election. Labour’s plan is to be marginally less right wing and less obnoxious and hope the other two split the vote, so First Past The Post delivers a majority for them.

sophie-black.bsky.social•13 days ago

Or failing that enough seats that they can do a deal with the Lib Dems, Greens and Nationalists.

And don’t rule out absurdities like a temporary Lib Dem / Reform pact to try to force through PR.

Most likely results throw trans people under the bus, but we already are, and you already knew that.

antonyfrost.bsky.social•13 days ago

Bleak.

nostikvvvibes.bsky.social•13 days ago

I am sure Starmer being besties with Trump will definitely pay off later.

edithdaisy.bsky.social•11 days ago

Lab are right to be worried about Reform and the most persuasive argument is to highlight the very real threat of becoming the 51st state of the US under Trump-brown noser Farage. Is that really what Brexit was for?

bentosmile.bsky.social•13 days ago

They could go for a universally popular policy like putting any money at all into the nhs, but noooooooo..!

kirsties.bsky.social•13 days ago

This is my conclusion too. I barely see how they can call themselves a progressive party anymore. Never felt so politically homeless as I do right now.

lucydango.bsky.social•13 days ago

it'll be a landslide unfortunately

hi-lucy.bsky.social•13 days ago

You'd hope you can point to the US, and remind people that Farage wants a pound shop version of what they are doing, and that would be enough to put anyone off.

teflonslinky.bsky.social•13 days ago

They are on track to, but things change quick so who knows

ismaykwette.bsky.social•13 days ago

Are they just stupid ? Why does every fucking lib party is applying the same recipe to defeat... Did they not see what happened in the US ?

Time to move back left you dumbasses. Stop licking billionaire's finger and start doing what you were always supposed to do.

Defend the people !

mbeswick.bsky.social•13 days ago

I was discussing with a friend and our prediction is currently Reform minority gov or coalition with Tories. Lib Dem third and Labour in fourth place.

rayrulez.bsky.social•13 days ago

Sadly, it does look that way.

weedleplop.bsky.social•13 days ago

It's been said time and time again, you don't beat the far right by leaning right, because why have a watered-down version when you can have the real thing?

The government should be demonstrating why they are NOT reform, and why that's better.

nataliemason.bsky.social•13 days ago

It feels inevitable doesn't it?

I just want to live a normal, safe, happy trans life, I'm so tired of things exclusively getting worse every election, but everyone in positions of political power seems determined to crash us head first into the rise of fascism.

sophie-black.bsky.social•13 days ago

It’s part of the curse of being trans isn’t it? We’re never allowed just to live normal lives : f****d whatever happens.

tttransformer.bsky.social•13 days ago

Based on what?

redundead.bsky.social•13 days ago

I honestly consider all of labour sabotours ever since they shat on Corbyn.

cloudhunter.co.uk•13 days ago

Labour is destroying themselves in the eyes of the electorate and their base, like the lib dems did when they teamed with the Tories, and we'll end up with the next 20 years being under fascist reform/conservative rule.

kylora2112.bsky.social•13 days ago

Democrats in the US are more or less doing the same thing. They're alienating the left-leaning wing of the party to go after the less-extreme far-right crowd...who are just going to vote for the further-right party anyways.
Like, Why should I vote for the moderate racists when I can go full racist?

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