I mean they have a point but they didn't get there without massive human rights abuses, while also charming corporations into offshoring jobs there.
Now they can make fun because even though we have human rights abuse too we aren't charming anyone.
Ruzzkies also have nice subways, but I wouldn’t live there. Also, london and new york had subways when china was still using donkeys to get from a to b…
There doesn’t seem to be many people using China’s subway. And it looks like the whole country of China has only one subway. NY is only one city. Propaganda is propaganda.
yeah this is pretty silly. The NYC mass transit system is excellent and it's just a natural tradeoff that freedom and sterility have a degree of mutual exclusivity.
I don't mind functional infrastructure that has imperfections suggesting it involves human beings.
NYC for more than a decade. Subways for the win! Elderly white female; always felt more protected than threatened by fellow travellers. Click the bait if you will but salt it.
However many problems we in the US indeed have, opportunistic one-sided Chinese propaganda isn't the hero you're looking for. I hope we don't have to list all Beijing's countless abuses & crimes, massive failures, and the real-life daily nightmares Xi's authoritarian rule causes millions daily.
It is what it is, but it is. Could it be better? Yes. But we don't have to walk from Sutphin Blvd all the way to Coney Island or Battery Park. There are new trains on the A line.
NYC subways have been running for over 150 years—and they’ll likely still be running a century from now. China’s subways may be newer, but give it a few years and $20 says they’ll start falling apart. It’s the classic case of quality over quantity.
I’m not going to give them the rat one. I’m sure they are as pervasive in China as they are everywhere else. This is what happens when you don’t tax Billionaires!
But to be honest, would you rather be on that C train ride going downtown with the orange seats and the cool humanity (and occasional wildlife) or that soulless chrome vacumm of subterranean space. I ❤️ New York.
Until the authorities confront your family to reimburse them for the bullet they put in your son's head for being too slow on the iPhone assembly line.
White people don’t want nice thing, particularly people in red states. You can basically blame them for everything bad in this country. Truly shitty people. Dumb as shit. I’m truly appalled by them
The state of our country, currently. We were moving forward with infrastructure but it seems that has stopped. Construction materials have started to cause projects to slow down throughout the US.
I was hoping people get it's still a Dictatorship. Lots of civil right issues and pollution. We had a exchange student from China for 8 years highschool, college he told us stories, starving kids, forced labor. Take rent food out of your pay. Take people.They killed girl babies. It's not all flowers
China is far from Utopia ..... Don't be fooled by the yes good comebacks but it's a Dictatorship! Posts about counties run without a Dictatorship and huge human rights issues let's idolize them like Iceland .... Been there auntie lived there its super safe and wonderful government ...super safe.
Yes but China and America have much in common- both run by autocrats- both being filled with propaganda and both are using the military against their own people.
I saw a reporter. I can’t remember what network, reporting from China. They’re roasting the orange and Vance. Since Vance called them peasants he’s known on the Chinese Internet as “eyeliner guy.”
It's because the US spends so much on our military. We also pay less taxes. A lot of the countries don't spend nearly as much on their military and have higher taxes...
But don't act like China doesn't have corruption issues. Most of China's internal issues are due to corruption.
We don't actually pay less taxes. We are getting nickled and dimed and flat out robbed in ways most Americans do not realize. In Finland, I see my tax dollars all around, serving the people. In the US, we pay and pay and get less and less.
China is far from utopia... Lots of horrible things .... They aren't showing the slums ... Here we have issue but it's worse there. Why elections and term limits not allowing insider trading or corporations to donate to public service campaigns needs to happen and more accountability.
I say this all the time to Finn's and Americans I want to look around here in Finland I know that we in America could have everything they enjoy here, even bigger and better if we wanted, but too many of us choose not to.
Don’t forget bombs to drop on foreign countries and mostly kids …that’s what my tax dollars pay for…@god are we in purgatory and you’re just pretending it’s real life? Asking for a nation.
That chance was in 2016, and again in 2024. Now you're teetering on the precipice of never having "elections" again, and more than half your country is cheering it on because some people are being black bagged to Venezuela.
Do we? Don't see much evidence of that. We have only two "choices": ineffective or insane. In both cases, wealthy interests make sure we can't have nice things.
Apples to apples, please. It’s a factual image comparison but with no context. Refurbishment of old systems anywhere is more difficult than new builds. They can’t shut down for years. Rats are endemic to NYC. Public money is politicians’ leverage. It took China how long since the revolution?
NYC subways run 24/7/365, so there is no time for building new stations. The only time we had was when 9/11 happened. Stations affected by the attack were rebuilt with state of the art improvements. Chinese should show the new NYC stations like Fulton or the Hub
They can't be all that bad, here are some better examples. I was never in China but I was in Taiwan & they do have some fine clean stations. But when you get past the shiny bright facade, it was dirty. There is a reason they picked the worst of US & best of China. https://skift.com/2013/10/26/the-22-grandest-amtrak-train-stations-in-america/
What do you have now? Corrupt and crony capitalism by dumb ass idiots who are trying to infringe on people’s right. And if you are a minority, especially Black folks, cops shootings you. Speak for yourself about dictatorship.
NYC subways run 24/7/365, so there is no time for building new stations. The only time we had was when 9/11 happened. Stations affected by the attack were rebuilt with state of the art improvements. Chinese should show the new NYC stations like Fulton or the Hub
Chinese mass transit is indeed fabulous, but I have to admit that my very favorite feature is those glass doors that remain closed until the train is in position, so it is completely impossible for anyone to fall onto the tracks. Also, I love the "Xiao xin" notices next to the doors!
Let’s not get carried away with these though. This is what MAGA really wants to emulate - why do you think they hate Chiner so much? They are jealous. And China didn’t get pristine subways through inclusion and diversity. They starve their own people to propel their propaganda
True. Aug. 2021 - 30 Republican senators voted against a $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill when it passed the U.S. Senate, turning their backs on billions that their states stand to gain from the package. This is not the only infrastructure bill republicans voted against.
You mean like when the US government puts a tarp over the meth labs in rural Tennessee and Kentucky and promotes the idea that cities are dangers BECAUSE they’re liberal run, and that there’s no conservative city?
Or like when our government is showing us how great China is so we are ok with the same government rule here. Or when Tucker goes to Russia showing us how nice it is.
I was reacting to this knee jerk protesting that just because it shows America in a bad light it must be propaganda. The fact is, other countries have better infrastructure with a lot less eagle noises and salutes to the flag.
Other countries have universal healthcare. Other countries don’t have an industry dedicated to manufacturing child sized bulletproof items. And it’s “propaganda” that’s easy to dismiss them simply because they’re not American.
China is allowed to brag about what they’re doing despite their atrocities. America has done that over and over again. China is fighting back against a war that America couldn’t control. Look inward. What China is showing on social media is soft power, something that America used to have.
Evidence? All the Chinese nationals I've met are very happy with the government. They've pulled so many people out of poverty. In the 90's you had to be rich and important to own a car. By 2015 China's middle class matched the US and is now bigger than the entire US population. Who is mistreated?
Weak reply, just shows your ignorance. You should try doing some reading https://hbr.org/2021/05/what-the-west-gets-wrong-about-china It's not quite as good as talking to actual Chinese nationals but it might help you differentiate truth from propaganda. Best of luck.
Yah, this is objective reality, meanwhile the US president is texting a constant stream of lies and the US is on a watch list that is warning about the erosion of civic freedom.
I’m not a cashier. And places like Florida don’t want to hire men. They want to hire children to abuse.
You are nothing but a liar.
Showing your true colors because I am a white woman who isn’t a republican. Keep crying doorknob
It's misogynistic to tell you useless, infantilized white women to be equal or be gone? Why do you fucking little toddlers always need special treatment?
not sure where that is but Shenzhen subway is quite new. 10 years maybe. NYC is obviously quite older. China also has Bullet trains, we have amtrak. ROFLMFAO
Maybe because investment in infrastructure and maintenance has languished in the US, so we are slobs. It didn't have to be this way. Infrastructure in the US gets a grade of D or F according to American engineers.
China is not my enemy. I do not have some bullshit ideological hatred of the CCP. I see no reason why we cannot work together to create a global economy that benefits all. Those in charge want us divided because it fuels the industrial military complex.
My salon owner is Chinese. She and her Korean client the other night were shocked when I told them that women weren't legally allowed to have their own bank account until 1974.
It's not propaganda to say that China has some better systems that we do. We need each other, and they know that, too.
There are whole "ghost" cities in China that they thought businesses and people would move too. Their housing crisis is in many ways worse than the US and Canada.
Infrastructure in the USA is falling apart because the millionaires in government have refused to spend $ on it since 1950.. bridges collapsing..trains older than India’s roads falling apart .. but hey the rich are doing great
This is because billionaires have to pay for infrastructure, healthcare, housing, stipends, food and education. Amazingly enough, they're still billionaires when they give back to the society that made them rich. Go figure. Billionaires can pay their share and still be rich. Unusual concept here.
Yes, I see it and I’ve seen documentaries on it as well, there’s a high price to pay for all the top tech and innovation.
We can do better, but if you think tech and digital doesn’t own China, you’re wrong.
Not to mention the monitoring. What happens when there’s a glitch?
If only we had a method with which we could improve our infrastructure. Like for instance a bill allocating funds and a leader with the foresight and sense to enact it.
I live in Asia most of the time. Whenever my wife is with me on a visit to the US, she always brings up hundreds of examples where the US is 3rd world.
I love the snark level coming out of China. At this moment in time they are way ahead of USA. It is so bad here that we are rooting for other countries that we used to look down on for their dismal human rights policies. Now we are taking the lead in human rights atrocities. Trump can claim # 1! SAD
China shouldn’t brag, though. “How many people are fleeing America to enter China as an illegal immigrant… None. Do we have hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants fleeing China to enter America? Yes.”
Just because Trump and MAGA are an epic disaster doesn’t make China a good place.
While China has challenges, its poverty alleviation (800M lifted since 1980), infrastructure growth, and long-term planning show a commitment to people America lacks. The U.S. wastes trillions on wars and Wall Street bailouts. China isn’t perfect, but its governance prioritizes development.
They aren't wrong. We're so obsessed with feeling good about our country we have failed to actually make it good. Look at our train system compared to anywhere else in the world.
I don’t know if we want to model after China with the child labor, limited freedoms and such 😬 Seems that’s were the current US administration wants to take us, just without the nice things.
I've seen him dunk on trump, as he absolutely should. Trump's incessant blathering is one of the reasons Carney won. I hope he (trump) has the same affect in Australia.
So, AI is wrong? "Yes, China has largely achieved universal health insurance coverage, with over 95% of its population covered by public insurance plans."
Well as past rat friends, he was just asking for a snack, and like a little gentleman sooo let’s not shun animals because we fucked them over but yea the rest is super clean and advanced.
But I have to stick up for my old town - they do have the new Hudson Yards station and the Fulton St station! But yeah, saw plenty of rats and gross stuff in the subway! 😁
Other American cities have shitty subways, lean off of NY! The United States has 11 cities with subway systems. These are: New York City, Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Washington D.C., Atlanta, Miami, Los Angeles, Baltimore, and Detroit.
NY's subway is one of the world's oldest transit systems, and the second largest in the world. Really, stop with the comparisons. As a little old lady, I ride all the time, day and night, safely, with my wonderful fellow riders watching out for me, giving me seats, picking up my dropped stuff
Perhaps. Imagine billionaires paying their fair share and politicians having the imagination to look forward.... pristine subways and bullet trains. I can dream. 🖖🏻
Exactly!!!! The wonderful simplicity of getting on a train and watching the country float by... be it an hour commute to work or to enjoy a play. Or getting on that train and going across the country. I often think there's a reason this country has kept its citizens less affordably mobile.
Because they have more funding for stuff like that. The reason infrastructure is so fucked in the US and UK is because the government isn’t spending on it. By choice.
You are the exception. I am disabled. I can guarantee people don’t do that for everyone, especially people who aren’t white. No one ever moves for me or anyone else visibly disabled I see when get on the train. Just yesterday a young man punched me on the train and MTA did nothing when I reported it
I agree that the subway is pretty hard for disability; I generally encounter people with mobility issues on buses in NYC, where the drivers carefully load up wheelchairs, and we all squeeze aside for walkers. Yes, they're slow, so slow that I, with my moderate pace, can walk faster.
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I can say fuck tRump and honeybear Xi…
But you can’t say that in China…
Still differences!
Here it’s because of greed..
Absolutely we can have that if we tax the rich and stop worshipping them!!
China invested in infrastructure and America invested in Billionaires. Sad!!
Slave labor camp❓
Reeducation center❓
Prison/Factory❓
America may have its problems, but I would want to live here before taking my chances there.
Its Reality
The world laughs at #usa
Decades of decay due to corruption.
I saw the controversial
Chinese security video.
They beat the living day-lights out of passengers .
If a paper or a marker falls out of your bag , expect pain as a result .
ACAB also applies to China.
Now they can make fun because even though we have human rights abuse too we aren't charming anyone.
I don't mind functional infrastructure that has imperfections suggesting it involves human beings.
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Also, what they don't show on the Chinese side are the TSA-grade checks before civilians may enter the subway stations. Every. Single. Time.
China keeps up with their infrastructure needs. The US defunds infrastructure to give billionaires tax breaks.
On the other hand, under trump, everything will collapse. It's gonna be reality very fast.
Get someone to agree while laughing and it's way harder to dislodge the idea when it's entrenched with that touch of joy and a sense of superiority.
https://bsky.app/profile/socaldude11.bsky.social/post/3lo4clccotc2l
China can enjoy their boring vanilla subways
Until the authorities confront your family to reimburse them for the bullet they put in your son's head for being too slow on the iPhone assembly line.
it works - i was just on it!
May we Protest like it’s 1775 but peacefully ! If we don’t then we will end up like 1930 Germany !
We have no king!
Due process is a thing!
If our Congress won’t take action we will!
Talk is cheap take action!
Boycott
@50501movement.bsky.social
Shit happens.
Get bent.
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/15/1055841358/biden-signs-1t-bipartisan-infrastructure-bill-into-law
How did the guy not flinch when the rat was at his shoes?!😳😱
This is also why they want to ban tik tok. 🥲
But don't act like China doesn't have corruption issues. Most of China's internal issues are due to corruption.
Oh, wait…
Similar incarceration rates, genocide of indigenous people & cultures, disappears & punishes opposition
😒 the subway is filthy and you shouldn’t accept rats running up your pants legs
https://www.axios.com/2024/09/03/spamouflage-chinese-network-fake-social-media-accounts
https://skift.com/2013/10/26/the-22-grandest-amtrak-train-stations-in-america/
About the people captured for life...in camps? Nahh? I didnt think so...
The only truth here is that USA is currently cosplaying China...
Oh my how I LOVE LIVING IN DENMARK!
Reminds me of Tuckums going to Russia, showing their subway.
It is important to acknowledge both China & Russia are under communist regimes.
Only recently have we become this (sorta).
I love New York, in June, how about you!?!
#ILoveNewYork
This is real, and propaganda. There are many people who are very badly mistreated in China, but the nation shows off what's best.
We all must take care.
The most influenced by propaganda are the ones who think they're not.
Both nations' citizens are doing badly under their authorities regimes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change
most being illegal & brutal.
what was the last war china 🇨🇳 was in the thick of?
think 🤔 it was Vietnam 🇻🇳!?. or…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing
but you sound intimately familiar with it. 👀
You are nothing but a liar.
Showing your true colors because I am a white woman who isn’t a republican. Keep crying doorknob
We are squandering so much of our national treasure in these never-ending culture wars and court battles.
A well functioning democracy shouldn't need to burn so much precious resource.
Remove Trump. Stop squandering our nation's wealth.
Actually, it makes us look like slobs in so many ways.
It's not propaganda to say that China has some better systems that we do. We need each other, and they know that, too.
But yeah, we’ve dangerously underinvested in our infrastructure for decades.
I do see Chinese fleeing to this land.
Seems you didn’t get to see their films extolling Chairman Mao in your youth like I did 🤔.
They’re not far off!!😂
We can do better, but if you think tech and digital doesn’t own China, you’re wrong.
Not to mention the monitoring. What happens when there’s a glitch?
🙁
Just because Trump and MAGA are an epic disaster doesn’t make China a good place.
Nothing as bad as NY Subway.
But hey, be extorted.
USA vs rich🌍:
1.shortest life
2.least taxed rich 1 %
3.most jailed
4.most guns
5.least democratic
6.least safe infrastructure
USA needs more @aoc.bsky.social, @ayannapressley.bsky.social & LA’s Gary Chambers to lead.
https://youtu.be/RkNAm3D70Es?si=rTtzx3W2vcMzRWd8
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/measuring-up-u-s-infrastructure-against-other-countries
If you go to a doctor or a hospital in China, you have to pay upfront.
This is like comparing new airports to O’hare and LaGuardia that have been around forever.
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Nah, our system is three trolleys in a trenchcoat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Beijing_Subway_collision
I have a feeling that we’re not headed towards clean public transportation here. Trump can’t do anything right, not even authoritarianism.
where I generally travel it takes forever by bus.