Gee, I thought UAW withheld their endorsement of Harris because they thought she would encourage EVs. But instead they get Tesla forced down their throat.
I’m sure his cars are full of Chinese parts. Buy a Ford Mach E or F-150 Lightning if you want an EV from an American company. (I drive an 11 year old Ford Focus EV)
Well yeah until there’s ANOTHER recall on cybertrucks. I mean come on this is the genius that drove Twitter into the ground so hard it wiped out the dinosaurs.
I assumed that was his plan all along. To get the right wing EV luddites on his side and then sell them his cars.
He better do it quickly before he gets deported.
The tech is evolving plus the necessary minerals to produce a single 1,000 lb EV battery involves mining, moving and processing 500,000 lbs of raw materials. EVs are not environmental.
They are extremely different since pipelines and storage facilities that transport natural gas just fine leak hydrogen, not to mention that the same size truck transporting hydrogen instead of natural gas can only transport a third of the energy.
I gave up my car over a decade ago, & luckily live where I can use public transportation...it's not the greatest, but it works for me...I would walk everywhere, if I had to, before I ever buy a vehicle from that choad.
It's their way of eliminating all small and smaller businesses
They won't be able to survive ss people won't be able to afford their products. This will open up the complete takeover of huge conglomerates and further concentrate power to the few "big boys ". Monopolies will reign Supreme.
I respectfully disagree. Tariffs will give all the current perpetrators of corporate greed the ability to price their American-made goods just less than the tariffed price of imports…and rack in more cash
I wonder if that Elon buying the election can’t be used to get MAGA to buy EV. We’d be all “Boycott Tesla!” And then they’d run out and buy them to try to piss us off. But then emissions would drop. Small win.
Elon is scared to death of BYD. They make a really nice electric car available about anywhere except the USA. Musk intends to keep it that way, which is why his nose is so far up Trump‘s butt. Nice.
The Orange Blob wants to eliminate the Subsidies for EV's which will kill sales. So Musk will now lose money on two fronts Twitter & Tesla. Tariffs or not he is going to hurt because no one will buy them.
I was in China earlier this year. They make very good EVs and the prices are good. They have a lot of charging infrastructure. He doesn't want competition.
Most customers who wanted an EV are progressive. Who is he going to court his Teslas to now that he's a pariah? Gas and oil pushers? Climate deniers? His few tech bros? Would a progressive buy a Tesla is that was the only affordable EV? How expensive should gas get before we have to switch to Tesla?
He won't be getting many Democrat sales. He's a hard guy to like also, that will take away more sales. There are plenty of cheaper electric vehicle alternatives anyway. I recommend boycotting Musk totally.
Funnily enough, despite lobbying by Tesla at the time, the Trump admin refused to extend the EV tax credit cap after Tesla booked 200,000 sales in the US. The EV credit was reinstated by the Biden admin's Inflation Reduction Act, so naturally, EV credits are now Satan.
Except no one who wants an EV likes Tesla anymore, and most Elon fans either don't want EV or can't afford them. The only ones they buy are the Cybertruck and that's proving over and over to be a POS
I think it’s easy to assume it benefits Tesla, but does it? Curious where their chips and other supplies/parts/batteries are coming from. Also thinking that the EV tax credit has a max car value that excludes a lot of the Teslas. Would be interested in facts on this if anyone knows about it.
GM has quietly been taking up market share with the Equinox EV and the upcoming relaunched Bolt, both of which are cheaper and more profitable than before. I don't think the loss of the tax credit will slow them down much. I own 2 EVs, neither of them Teslas because they just cost too much.
They want the sorts of conditions Russia went through right after the fall of the USSR, which allowed Putin and the oligarchs to consolidate power and wealth in that part of the world.
For us, living in somewhat rural east Texas and regularly making trips to either our lake home also in Texas or our equestrian property in Florida, it's the charging network that the selling point.
Also, the polestar SUVs are too small for my wife, since we have four children.
I, myself, just last year purchased a new Cadillac Escalade ESV, so I'm not in the market for a new car myself for the next few years maybe when I am in 5 years or so there will be an all electric version.
I don’t think that boss prezie-elect cares about electric cars, so there won’t be a market for Elmo to corner. Dig dig dig for that oil $$$$ and screw a clean landscape.
True. I am not actually sure how anyone benefits from tariffs, not right now. The us manufacturing base just isn’t robust enough to keep up with a sudden spike in demand. And some stuff just isn’t available here
Well the Chinese EV tariffs that are in place now under Biden are actually pretty effective. They’re a good example of how targeted tariffs can be used for geopolitical purposes, in this case to protect a specific technology sectors from being overrun by a foreign adversary’s product.
I would argue that the plan is to replace income tax with tariffs and push that burden of tax on to the middle class poor and the homeless for the things that they may buy
The richest man in the world needs more. Super rich people make me sick. Hopefully the next pandemic only affects people with the greedy gene and is 100% effective
They all do. He’s a bored billionaire with nothing else to do. Nothings out of his reach. Nothing to strive for, so, world domination, just for the hell of it.
Why do you think Elmo is acting the abusive spouse and not letting Trump out of his sight? Because Musk needs to make sure he’s controlling the conversation so it benefits him.
Well good luck with that. I ain’t buying anything large in the next four years. I doubt Elon is going to be around for long. The relationship of these two men with personality disorders will be fun to watch implode.
Under NAFTA tariffs on autos do not apply to Canada and Mexico. There are a number of large number of car plants being built in Mexico. Likely musk can take advantage of lower costs there with no tariffs.
It’s the most beautiful word in the English language. Some people say love. Other people say that stroganoff is their favorite. But for me, it’s tariff.
Won't Elmo also get saddled with tariffs for his plants in Mexico?
No. He'll get a free pass. Unless Donald can't stomach anyone being called Co-President or even President Trump.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder includes pathological lying. Delusional Personality Disorder also includes lying.
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1st lovers spat?
Not entirely true. If anyone cares to read. Tariffs suck, but they’re sometimes necessary.
But I don't plan on doing that anyway because we're all gonna be poor for the next half decade!
I harbor hate in my heart. What's my penance?
He better do it quickly before he gets deported.
Trump is going to kill the $7500 EV tax credit. That will hurt Tesla sales.
They won't be able to survive ss people won't be able to afford their products. This will open up the complete takeover of huge conglomerates and further concentrate power to the few "big boys ". Monopolies will reign Supreme.
It would be a cold day in hell before I would buy a Tesla.
Either way he/they don’t get my money.
Case in point my EV
Honestly I’m down with that.
I’ll happily pay for him to go on a one way trip to mars.
I, myself, just last year purchased a new Cadillac Escalade ESV, so I'm not in the market for a new car myself for the next few years maybe when I am in 5 years or so there will be an all electric version.
Were you replying to me or God? I'm still getting used to the layout of replies myself...
Embarrassed owners of pre purchased cybertrucks aside.
Well, the very rich
A nice deep 2-year recession would turn America into a huge buying opportunity for those who have the funds
I would not be surprised if Trump's donors steer him this way
https://hartmannreport.com/p/the-recession-racket-musk-trump-and-2bd
he's not proposing tariffs. he's proposing trumpiffs.
remember the sanctions against iran where everyone who bribed trump got an exemption?
Jerry
No. He'll get a free pass. Unless Donald can't stomach anyone being called Co-President or even President Trump.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder includes pathological lying. Delusional Personality Disorder also includes lying.