Donald Trump is now (1) below 50% popular vote and (2) has a margin of popular vote victory roughly HALF of Hillary's victory in 2016. They believe the left has to lay down and shut up because of this "landslide" victory.
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I looked up the 2016 popular vote total. Hillary won by just about 3M votes. Right now Trump is up 2.7M votes. That's not half. Are you seeing different numbers, David?
Yes. This is not only trying to show Trump didn't get the popular over Harris by a large margin (or at all) but that even more people didn't vote for him. Showing that he doesn't actually have a large popular mandate; let alone one at all.
More math:
76,677,291 > 76,464,848
or
76,677,291 - 76,464,848 = 212,446
Total votes counted (so far) = 153,142,139
Trump at 49.9%
Leaving other votes at 50.1%
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If you're sick of it now, just wait until January 20th and beyond. It's only going to get worse for a while. Especially with that bill coming up that will hurt NGOs that disagree with the GOP. Thankfully we have independent media.... well for now at least. But, we will get through this, together!
Saw you holding your own on the Piers Morgan. You're right, the trans issues are an issue on the left. It's the right that pushes it. I think you should have noted Harris responded to the question regarding trans prisoners with she would follow the law, which was an acceptable answer to me.
Such a fart sniffing attitude to post on a mainstream site for views and engagement but then say come to this niche site to respond. You’re part of the reason we lost.
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Biden won The Electoral College and popular vote margin by 7M just 4yrs ago, and not once did the MSM suggest that MAGA is dead or Republicans need to at least moderate a little because of his incredible “landslide” victory.
When the MAGAs (and others) say that over half the country voted for him, I cringe. It's nowhere near half the country. Apathy + Hate gave him the win.
"The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference” - Elie Wiesel
This is getting as odious as run-up polling. If the media would authentically call their *hot takes* “preliminary results”, or “what old people with home phones think a week before the election”, we’d have more accurate data to argue
Every election since 2000 the total vote count goes up millions every year... w/one exception… in 2008, Obama got more votes than he did in 2012… 2016 was a low turnout w/HRC & Trump, but still went up 2 million… 2020 was 155.5 million… the total vote count seems low… 2024 should've been a record...
Hello Cambridge Analytica style exit poll data manipulation
I noticed the same people are involved as during Brexit including certain Russian and Chinese investors. They specialize in data theft/manipulation, online manipulation, election fraud and coups
The insane amounts of funding and bonusses are done with crypto transactions to hide identities and players which is why some popular crypto jumped sky high around the end of the elections. All the money is still on the markets. Soon it's cashing in with a dump to launder foreign investment
It's important to remember that popular vote margins don't always reflect the true will of the people. A 'landslide' should be measured by more than just numbers. it’s about uniting the country, not silencing opposition. Democracy thrives when every voice is heard.
Look, it's either fixate on this stuff, or move on and work out what to do to help people not to be suckered in to stupidity for our whole lifetimes. Which would you rather do?
Dem candidates win down ballot, the policies win on voter levels. The problem is the media wing of the GOP does not live in reality and they attack everyone at the top of the ticket.
California barely finishes in time for the early December date that becomes the official record. The margin keeps shrinking. She will not overtake Trump but keep shrinking that lead.
It's amazing how well the right controls political narrative. Even some people on the left bought into the "big popular vote win" by Trump within 24 hours of the election. Tons of votes to count still....the margin will prolly only be 1.5%.
This is why even through the dismay and wanting to disengage out of anger and frustration that we can't do it. I won't do it. Their was no landslide, no mandate. We need to stay vigilant.
Honestly, I see this vote count as a reminder that this country just hates women. Abortion was literally on the ballot and should have been the rallying cry, but nope.
If you refer to oppose vehemently against and democratically. That is the way to go. An example of political laziness was to leave federal abortion rights depending on decision court. Are Dems, working on a federal law?
No, that's not what the results show. The results show that the US electorate was concerned with economic perceptions and voted in a way to punish the incumbent for this perception.
The democratic party has a hard time championing their successes.
What I say is that Trump achieve to have slightly more votes than Kamala. Voters who in 2020 voted for Biden decided to stay at home. This confirms that Kamala was a terrible candidate.
Trump had almost the same votes that in 2020 he is no more popular, nor more accepted than before, but the Democrats lost many votes. Even so, they should be able to recover.
20mil votes missing Democrats! Where are those 15mil votes? You must have cheated in 2020 to have 8mil more votes! We won in a landslide with 312 electorals! Just look at those numbers! Shut up, the popular vote doesn't count! The electoral was a scam but now it's not cuz we won!
The Left is going to have "The Greatest Comeback Ever"! The only way the nasty bastards won their votes are through deception. When Trump and his clowns pass on they will be the ancestors their family refuse to talk about or add to the family tree. Satan will have a special pit for them in Hell!
No, they believe the left has to lay down because Trump won
- the electoral college
- the popular vote
- retained the House
- regained the Senate
- already had the judiciary
The graphic is bogus. The latest numbers from CNN, NYT, etc, show Trump/Harris at 50/48.3. It's sad no one in here questions the graphic that has no link.
Landslide will be hollered from the mountain tops for the next 4 years irregardless. But this disaster will result in a mess for them before they know it.
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While this is true he still won and counting percentages seems like a wasted effort. Large part of the country did not care to participate or have preferred faschist on a promise of cheap eggs and gas. Other then telling maga's that he only has "small" majority mandate what is the point?
A marginal victory is a landslide when you win the Presidency, control of the House, control of the Senate, and a conservative majority on Supreme Court. In totality, it’s scary.
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No cure for stupidity or basic maths. Unfortunately, 15 million Americans chose to sit out the election. They will now live with the consequences, as will the rest of us.
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Welcome to the hellscape that is our current political environment. It is absolutely even dumber than you ever expect it is and logic has left the conversation.
Agreed. While my state went for Trump, we now have two democratic senators, we protected women’s rights, and voted not to retain two extreme supreme judges who turned back abortion rights to an obscure 1800s law.
Why is the mainstream media acting like it’s a landslide? While I think the Dems must get their act together and win, half of the voters who bothered to vote voted against Trump.
Naive question: is there anything Biden could do, to stop this madness that could prove to be a danger to US security and a danger to developing dictatorship in USA? What powers does Biden have?
Disrupting the peaceful transfer of power is not in the best interest of the US as a nation. No matter the election results, we must respect the principles upon which our country was founded.
Still missing millions of voters from 2020, even more when you consider newly registered voters. Did millions sit out? How big of a part did voter suppression and intimidation tactics play?
The reality is people vote based on vibes and only a minority of voters turn out because of genuine policy decisions, especially at the national level.
You can see here that in 2008, Obama had a major spike and then 2012 and 2016 dropped because people weren't as enthused about the candidate.
Not really. The reality is, when looking at exit polling, it was clear that Harris lost because of economic conditions.
The US public on average isn't as involved in politics as online people are.
"Did Joe Biden drop out" being a highly searcher phrase on election day for example.
Exit polling gives us great insight into the thoughts of the electorate and why elections go the ways they do.
Just because they didn't vote doesn't mean their concerns aren't similar to the large majority of people who did.
The economy again, was perceived to be bad and people sat it out.
After the election, top searches included “can I change my vote ?”and “what is a tariff ?”.While I agree that most people are not interested in politics, ignorance is not an excuse.
Problem is they invent whatever reality they want, if he calls it a landslide they call it a landslide, then the corp media calls it a landslide, etc etc, and no amount of facts we present them will convince them otherwise (we shouldn't help them though - don't comply in advance)!
Over 3 millions voters voted for 3rd party candidates of Robert Kennedy, Jill Stein and Chase Oliver combined. Why didn’t anyone bring it up about the 3rd party? This is what’s happening.
At this stage in the game, people can ask questions and very importantly, some can do the necessary recounts and audits allowed. It's not election denial at this point.
There is no mandate, Harris lost because she is a female of color. Our country needs to reckon with the fact 76+ million voted for a felony/adjudacated rapist who says hateful things regularly. We need to amplify facts and human decency.
You know, this number makes me happy! Dems are not shrinking. No dramatic shift! The focus on battle ground states and YES overconfidence...fueled this loss. We did not get out the vote!
Looking at these numbers makes me feel like it is slightly more rigged than it was before. Now if the numbers go back the other way, nothing to see here, but if the numbers start to look closer, it's definitely more rigged.
The woman had THREE months to campaign. What she was able to accomplish in three short months is an absolute miracle. The regret by MANY Trump voters has already started.
Popular votes are hits or yards. Electoral votes are runs and touchdowns. Hits and yards only matter when you can string them together and score runs and touchdowns. This is the game we are playing.
Definitely not a landslide. But it provides insight into the mindset of the democrats. They have failed to appeal to the masses. They continue down the road of corporate elitism. It has to change
Any concrete examples of this?
How about the fact that Biden's NLRB picks have helped expand worker's rights?
How about the fact that his policies have increased real wage growth for the lowest earners?
Don’t get me wrong. Biden has done good things. But they refuse to publicly support policies that would help everyone. Policies that other nations have been using for decades. Dems are still bought off by corporations. Also inflation accounted for weekly wages are lower then ever
Biden's policies have been amazing for the working class.
In fact, the 1 thing that people attack him for, the breaking of the dock strikes, was likely a good thing for the nation because of the importance of imports to our economy for inflation.
Since 5/23 wages have outpaced inflation.
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As a teacher I’m terrified for this new administration and changes to education. I also live deep red Utah where they’ve been already under funding public and replacing that funding towards private schools. I’m so scared what happens when Utah has full control 🫥
Harris accumulated almost as many votes as he did but she only campaigned for 107 days. He's been campaigning for almost 10 years now. I would say that's a win
Last and subtle point - this dark wave of autocrats is working hard to create division among the people and put each group in its own reality, to fight this you have to maintain the relationships with the other side, don't back out on your thoughts, but if you lose touch with your Trump supporting
Uncle - they lose touch with your reality and its hard to bring them out of their imaginary world where immigrants eat cats.
Its hard to do, but with a little luck you and the Uncle will outlast trump and hopefully that Uncle can be nice.
Talk about the weather, cars, food, just keep in touch.
Back your elected officials to let them know you see them fighting and encourage them to continue doing that - they are at the front line and every vote or law they win and stop slows the coalition down.
Over here, media supposed crappy opposition and they need to be reminded often of their role
Another big battle ground is social media - where armies of bots manipulate the discourse... I don't know how to fight it yet other than organizing and reporting all these bots
Media can be influenced by reaching out to advertisers and telling them to stop supporting something or you will be voting with your wallet, voting with your wallet isn't enoug, you have to tell the advertisers why you are doing that.
Its not Teflon, its the media betraying the people for a few extra views.
Not all of them are bad and lying - their incentives are off and the owners have their hand on the scales
We need to have the Dems learn how to appeal to voters more because calling the other guy a fascist over and over doesn’t work. It failed when Hillary tried it and it failed now that Harris tried it again
I am in Australia, so a bit confused with how things work. What if Harris gains most of the 800,000 Cali votes. Will that trigger a recount of all states where Elmo used Starlink?
Huh? If we're going by percent margin, Clinton won the popular vote by 2.1% and Trump is winning by 1.8%.
If we're going by raw vote margin, Clinton won by ~2.9 million votes; Trump is winning by ~2.7 million votes.
And you think this will be the stat he is going to talk about? He will be referring to the above 50% stat and within the same sentence he will end with saying he got 90% of the vote. Worse part is…they all going to believe him!!!
US population: Approximately 346 million.
Eligible voters: Around 231 million.
Trump voters: Approximately 76.4 million
Republicans ruling with 22.1% of populations support
with 33.1% of Eligible voters support
with 47.% of Registered voters support
with 49.6% of voters who actually voted support.
An underrated thing that has come out of this election is that the Democratic coalition is now benefiting more from the electoral college. Kamala could've easily won the electoral college with a narrower popular vote margin than Hillary with how close some of the swing states were.
Where is a good place to get accurate counts for Trump voters, Harris voters, other voters, and *total eligible voters*? (That would allow me to see how many didn't bother.) Ideally State by State, but total for US would be okay.
No, we fight....NOW! Demand a forensic audit and recount. I will fight tooth and nail to prevent DJT from burning our country to the ground. Join our fight!!
Disagree. Don’t buy into the fearmongering. No way will we just watch it happen. trump will probably have died or been removed before 2028. His Alzheimer’s is escalating and half the rightwingers can’t stand Vance. We’ll still have elections. Don’t roll over and just give in to worst case scenarios.
Well if you're posting on here, I doubt you truly believe its over. Take some time off and come back with some of that piss n vinegar we need in the fight to come
Historically speaking, and I'm referencing Ruth Ben-Ghiat, the best times to take down authoritarian regimes--and they DO get taken down--is at the end and also at the beginning.
Diversity is our strength against fascism. Historical examples of fascism are in countries that have a mostly singular national identity, shared language & history (Germans, Russians, Italians, etc.) Not one had our incredible diversity!!
I’m afraid you might be right. If Trump is not stopped and is allowed to stretch the limits of the Constitution to no end and to cause chaos and distress in the country, he might just suspend 2028 elections.
Just curious, where are you seeing these numbers? Every site I go to shows Trump (currently, of course votes are still being counted) just at or above 50%.
"The left". The only real person who is remotely in the area of left wing is Bernie Sanders. I don't recall any of Obama, Biden or Clinton ruling out anything similar to the state health care available in Europe. Unfortunately, for most of us across the pond, the US is centre right and far right.
With over 60 Russian bomb threats in blue areas in swing states and Putin’s aide, Patrushev, openly stating that they won the election and Trump needs to pay them back for it, it’s hard to believe the validity of it.
As a center-right Kamala voter, the left-wing of the Democratic still needs to reexamine its policies. I would point to the red swift in the cities for example.
I made a graph. Trump got just under 50% of the popular vote - just 1.7% above Harris and the lowest margin of victory since Bush v. Gore in 2000. That is hardly the "mandate" that Republicans and the press are claiming.
I know you're a politics nerd, David. When I was a poli sci minor in college, we were told that a landslide is a victory of at least 10%. Ain't no 10% here.
It is ,but many MAGA folks are learning that their family and friends want nothing to do with them. They can follow their extreme cult but it’s going to be a lonely Thanksgiving. No one wants to be around that type of toxicity.
If it hasn't been pointed to you, he won them popular vote. The margin does not matter. We have ample evidence that the right will support him no matter what. No more talk about what they should do. What are WE going to do?
Last I checked, the margin of people that voted for her wouldn’t have been enough to close the gap in any of the swing states but that may have changed since the last time I checked
I’m taking that back!
“Woke” is people who are…..educated, enlightened, tolerant, can think for themselves, and categorically know the following:
The earth is not flat
Science is real
Vaccines are good
Cults are bad
Democracy is good
Tolerance will always win over hate…..
But as lame as Trump's victory margin is, Kamala did worse than that ... And the Democratic party machine STILL can't believe that they're part of the problem
I liked Kamala, she was an excellent candidate, but I agree with Bernie Sanders. Bernie's a cool dude!
Dude. As a member of the left myself, please stop acting like this was close. It was not. Dems running against a psychopath fascist should win by 30%, not lose by a little. Comments like yours here allow Dems in power to think they don't have soul searching to do.
Of course they do. It’s part of the continued gaslighting of America. Shrub did it too. You give them less than a micro-fraction of an inch and they say “mandate!” We get to say what goes. Along with their micro-victory they will continue to make changes to make it harder for D’s to ever win again
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73,794,005 + 2,883,286 = 76,677,291 votes against Trump
76,677,291 > 76,464,848
or
76,677,291 - 76,464,848 = 212,446
Total votes counted (so far) = 153,142,139
Trump at 49.9%
Leaving other votes at 50.1%
https://theintercept.com/2024/11/15/nonprofits-trump-bill-gop-republicans/
btw it looks like someone hacked your home page
"The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference” - Elie Wiesel
I noticed the same people are involved as during Brexit including certain Russian and Chinese investors. They specialize in data theft/manipulation, online manipulation, election fraud and coups
With that logic, every election since 2004 (aside from Trump in 2016), was a mandate.
In the graph below, you’ll see the margin of victory %.
It got deported.
Which is only fair, because my inner Brit knows we only did that *once* while the US just repeated an abomination.
We wont.
Work together to subvert trump
Literally what russia wants
“The ideal scenario is to maintain the schism and uncertainty in the States till the end,” says Pavlovsky. “Our candidate is chaos.”
https://www.gq.com/story/why-does-putin-love-bernie
The democratic party has a hard time championing their successes.
The youth these days don't know how to sign their names, or do it consistently.
Heck, I was told that you want slight variations to know it's not fraud.
https://youtu.be/62MCJf2ogRg?si=v6r4GwCt28f-peYM
- the electoral college
- the popular vote
- retained the House
- regained the Senate
- already had the judiciary
And were idiots not to nix the filibuster.
They are not wrong.
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If you combine all the other candidates that were running including @DrJillStein @RobertKennedyJr @ChaseForLiberty
If those votes had gone to @KamalaHarris , she wins.
The other candidates add up.
Over 76 million total if people had voted for Kamala instead.
Now is not the time to retreat!
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Hate to break it to ya … Kamala created what California is today, as AG and Senator there.
The hell hole that is California is her fault
illegal.
But they are going off the incorrect day of voting data that had Kamala at 66M votes compared to Biden's 81M which is incomplete early data.
I'm guessing you don't understand how a lot of things work.
You can see here that in 2008, Obama had a major spike and then 2012 and 2016 dropped because people weren't as enthused about the candidate.
The US public on average isn't as involved in politics as online people are.
"Did Joe Biden drop out" being a highly searcher phrase on election day for example.
Just because they didn't vote doesn't mean their concerns aren't similar to the large majority of people who did.
The economy again, was perceived to be bad and people sat it out.
New DNC chair?
How about the fact that Biden's NLRB picks have helped expand worker's rights?
How about the fact that his policies have increased real wage growth for the lowest earners?
In fact, the 1 thing that people attack him for, the breaking of the dock strikes, was likely a good thing for the nation because of the importance of imports to our economy for inflation.
Since 5/23 wages have outpaced inflation.
Its hard to do, but with a little luck you and the Uncle will outlast trump and hopefully that Uncle can be nice.
Talk about the weather, cars, food, just keep in touch.
Over here, media supposed crappy opposition and they need to be reminded often of their role
Not all of them are bad and lying - their incentives are off and the owners have their hand on the scales
Donald Trump has thus far received 50.1% of 150,161,453 votes cast
Kamala Harris has thus far received 48.3% of 150,161,453 votes cast
Fascism has thus far received 68% of all eligible voters’ approval.
The saddest thing is a lot of people will believe it forever now
If we're going by raw vote margin, Clinton won by ~2.9 million votes; Trump is winning by ~2.7 million votes.
Where are you getting "half" from?
Eligible voters: Around 231 million.
Trump voters: Approximately 76.4 million
Republicans ruling with 22.1% of populations support
with 33.1% of Eligible voters support
with 47.% of Registered voters support
with 49.6% of voters who actually voted support.
Mandate🤣🤣🤣🤣
6/10 Americans struggle with their economy. Guessing that will increase over the coming years .
We are gonna fight tooth and nail next time
#NeverAgain
Call your Reps and Sens
Demand: recount in swing states, senate confirmation, Gaetz report
This is going to suck. But just like last time it'll be incompetence and lack of leadership. He never gets anything done.
Oh...wait...that's right...he didn't.
We are at the beginning. We must give it our all.
Meanwhile…
We rise
Have a great day!!
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So
https://electionresults.sos.ca.gov/unprocessed-ballots-status
That is what they go by.
We officially have a USA plutocracy.
MSN
oligarch: a "very wealthy business leader who helps to run the government - Elon Musk personally gave more than $130M and his super PAC gave $200M
WHY?
A lot of Biden voters did not vote this time.
Hey Donald, it’s smaller than you say it is.
Also, I just switched over from Twitter, looking for followers. 😅
Much like “antisemitic”
“Woke” is people who are…..educated, enlightened, tolerant, can think for themselves, and categorically know the following:
The earth is not flat
Science is real
Vaccines are good
Cults are bad
Democracy is good
Tolerance will always win over hate…..
Woke - (verb) aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues especially of racial and social injustice
Traits I attribute to woke people:
High critical thinking skills
Sceptical
Knowledgeable
The word is often missed & has been reappropriated many times
I liked Kamala, she was an excellent candidate, but I agree with Bernie Sanders. Bernie's a cool dude!
But yes he is below the 50% mark