I guess it wasn't a Nazi salute, and it was but it's also a salute with other meanings, and Elon didn't mean it, and also if he did what's so bad about that? Am I close?
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We shouldn't spend too much time discussing their offensive symbolism and denial. They'll just use it to waste our time with outrage trolling. Unfortunately, parts of the press are not very smart about this.
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Maybe, just maybe, I'd give him the benefit of doubt if this was a one-off thing. However, fElon's body of work shows he supports white supremacy and Nazis.
The part they ignore, I think someone with a grandfather who was an actual Nazi, and a Father who supported apartheid is keenly aware of white power hand gestures.
I don't think the salute was on purpose.
I think he is evil for a whole lot of other reasons but the salute feels like a stretch.
Don't get me wrong, I'm incredibly happy he did it since finally people are leaving that cesspool of lies and propaganda, I just don't think he is a literal Nazi.
It was a Nazi salute and he finds it entertaining to gaslight us. It’s a joke to him to do something shocking and horrible and then deny it ever happened. This is typical narcissistic and pathological behavior.
He supports anti-Semitic tweets. He brings banned Nazis back to the platform. He spreads far-right conspiracy theories. He supports far-right political parties worldwide. That wasn't just a joke.
Right! He’s 100% serious about fascist values. What I’m saying is he means to gaslight people and the magas are now entertained by telling people they’re overreacting. Yes this is an intentional Nazi salute. It’s annoying that some people are saying this is some accident by Musk
Someone who does not manage to avoid “accidentally” giving the Nazi salute on stage is not qualified to be CEO of a company. Let alone for any statesmanlike affairs.
The same applies if it was intentional.
That is complete nonsense and not how the law works. It is only forbidden to perform the Nazi salute - but not to report on it. Also in WW2 documentaries you see the Nazi salute in Germany. You can even see it in satirical sketches.
"It wasn't a Nazi salute because other politicians have stuck their arm up and I have no idea why neo-nazis are ONLY celebrating Elon's salute" - Crypto-Nazis.
It was exactly what it was. He knew it, and everyone else in the world knew it. No excuses. He made the salute with such vigorous conviction too...twice!
Man you know if I accidentally did a perfect Nazi salute, id probably make a statement clarifying how it wasn’t and that I’m sorry it came off that way. Crazy how different me and Elon are…
It was absolutely a Nazi salute, done twice so that everyone in the audience saw it very clearly. Too bad we executed those who were gullible enough to follow it last century.
I’ve been hearing from his fans that Elon has Aspergers. It's a disability. A form of autism. So if you're mad that his salute came off the wrong way, I guess you hate people with disabilities & the mistakes they make? 😂😂😂
If Musk (A) didn't mean to do a Sieg Heil, AND (B) was a decent person, then he'd clarify to the millions of people he has hurt, by mistake, & didn't want to hurt.
But he did not clarify. SO:
He either (A) meant it OR (B) is not a decent person OR (C) Both.
he should have just denied it. why would he edit out himself doing the salute, and not mention it? he is signaling them. it was direct and behind the presidential seal. there is no mistaking what message he sent the world.
He did double down on it and try and drag oðers down wið him including Tim Walz and Taylor Swift who was blowing a kiss. I often get confused between blowing a kiss and a Nazi salutes. It happens all ðe time
If we give benefit of doubt and say it was just an enthusiastic gesture, then there is still a big problem. Any person in our society with just the basic baseline societal awareness can feel in their bodies the wrongness of this salute. So… at the VERY least it’s profoundly culturally tone deaf.
Not remotely, David. It feels like living in a bleak, dystopian novel. These people(?) aren't just über-conservative, they are actively trying to destroy the world. Nevermind the former US. It appears to be already dead.
It was intentional and heart felt.
America became a Fascist Oligarchy as of noon on Monday January 20, 2025.
That is an undisputed fact.
Americans need to bone up on the 2nd Amendment because it's pitchfork and sickle time.
Musk's grandparents were Nazis and Trumpf's dad associated with the KKK (he was arrested at a Klan rally as a young man and no, he wasn't there protesting).
Awesome.
People only know trump from the Apprentice, and that was all phony.
My opinion of the trump family was based on his actions and his father.
He's been a POS looser his whole life.
And the swastika was a religious symbol before Hitler used it. Still can't go putting that on your walls.
Germans all agree it's a nazi salute.
Elon CAN'T be allowed to have ANY military contracts.
Its obviously an experiment. See how people respond, start a discussion and slowly begin normalizing this kind of behavior. Thats what they want, to no longer have to hide what they truly are, and make it seem perfectly normal
I am so tired of their absolute BS! I wish people would just stand up and tell these people to F off! If only we could come together for the greater good of the people and not allow these billionaires to steamroll over us. It’s exhausting.
This is gaslighting par excellence. A Heil Hitler salute is unmistakable. They cannot fake their way out of this. The man outed himself as a Nazi in front of the whole world.
You're close, but you're so far away, and even then, you kind of have an inkling but not really any understanding of a subtle expression of something wrong or maybe right
It was a dog whistle. The weird takes I keep hearing on how it wasn’t a Nazi solute, or the justification of a Nazi solute is weird. What else are we going to justify in society?
You got it!
What if 20 years from now, The lessons and Laws implemented from Trumpist Authoritarianism saves 70, 80, 90% of America to have a content, fulfilling life?
And if we can convince Elon to put his billions towards that, whats the problem!
There never was any such thing as this so-called "Roman salute" they're trying to gaslight people with. It's exactly what you saw, the same Nazi Sieg Heil that's universally considered an expression of hate and banned or restricted in several countries because of what it represents.
The narrative being spun on my Facebook: He’s just a sweet little awkward boy with Asperger’s. Therefore, calling that a Roman salute is demeaning to everyone on the spectrum.
Sounds like J6 excuses. It was antifa and the FBI too, but also they're political prisoners, and they were justified because it was stolen, but it was a peaceful day of love, and it was Pelosi's fault.
First of all it was a Nazi salute no matter how you slice it. He is a card carrying anti semite. AIPAC a leading lobbyist for Isreal has said it isn't. They supported Trump all the way and only care about Israel and they dont care if it was hurts American Jews.
They seem to suggest that he is a Roman Centurion or gladiator of some sort now - with the reinvention of a salute that has no historical occurrence or context; Yes, Neo-Nazis are just saying it was a Nazi salute, like the rest of us are.
At least Neo-Nazis are honest for what they are...
Hey, if they still want to blame it on autism it still doesn’t work because generally speaking, autistic folks have excellent pattern recognition and would know not to do THAT gesture because of history. So if it’s an autism thing, that means he definitely meant it as a Nazi salute.
My grandmother who was 14 and lived in Germany during Kristallnacht always told me if you’re unsure about someone close your ears and open your eyes. In other words, pay attention to the actions and not the words. Based on the actions, Elon is a Nazi.
Then he should be doing it in his everyday life. Every time he sees a camera, a photographer pointing something at him. He should be giving that gesture. Live in your truth do it all the time
Nazi-musk did do a good, old nazi salute. Just like it was done by nazis in 1933-1945. No difference. musk has practiced a lot on nazi salutes. We can see that he loves it and he is proud of his performance💩
I give it 2 months until republicans are all saluting each other like this because it “makes the liberals cry” and poof it’s normalized and nazi’s are back 👍🏻
Hes autistic so it doesnt count.
He didnt mean it.
Its a roman salute...which is a fascist salute but whatever, just ignore that inconvenient truth.
He was giving you his heart.
He needed a cab.
He was trying to get the attention of a waiter.
He was calling for the ball.
etc etc etc
I read that he was trying to reach Mars like that lool
So many stupid excuses . The worst its people who make this excuse , what world we are living it.🤮
Yup, this is not only the worst timeline, but the dumbest and most gaslighting of timelines. Dont believe your eyes! They lie to you! Dont believe your ears, theyre hearing things wrong! Believe what we tell you and nothing else!
No records of the "roman salute" ever existed. At least until Italy became fascist. So yea, ultimately it's a fascist salute. Which is fun to point out to sympathizers.
It was a Nazi salute. He’s a South African whose family fled the country after a majority government was formed. More than likely he’s a racist and that’s a sure sign of fascism
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I think he is evil for a whole lot of other reasons but the salute feels like a stretch.
Don't get me wrong, I'm incredibly happy he did it since finally people are leaving that cesspool of lies and propaganda, I just don't think he is a literal Nazi.
The same applies if it was intentional.
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Don't you all do the same thing when you get excited?
Context does matter.
Stop dancing around and let some of this fucking assholes live with consequences of their actions for once.
But he did not clarify. SO:
He either (A) meant it OR (B) is not a decent person OR (C) Both.
Simple logic. & Musk is good at logic.
America became a Fascist Oligarchy as of noon on Monday January 20, 2025.
That is an undisputed fact.
Americans need to bone up on the 2nd Amendment because it's pitchfork and sickle time.
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People only know trump from the Apprentice, and that was all phony.
My opinion of the trump family was based on his actions and his father.
He's been a POS looser his whole life.
Germans all agree it's a nazi salute.
Elon CAN'T be allowed to have ANY military contracts.
Ok, now it's Trumps turn to get the attention. He hates it when others "trump" him. Outrageous statement in 3...2...1....
You tell me.
What if 20 years from now, The lessons and Laws implemented from Trumpist Authoritarianism saves 70, 80, 90% of America to have a content, fulfilling life?
And if we can convince Elon to put his billions towards that, whats the problem!
Knew exactly what he was doing!
Super genius didn't know better?
Just caught up in the moment?
Weird.
At least Neo-Nazis are honest for what they are...
It WAS a Nazi salute.
It WAS a Nazi salute.
Could take a while for him to figure it out as it does for everything else.
He didnt mean it.
Its a roman salute...which is a fascist salute but whatever, just ignore that inconvenient truth.
He was giving you his heart.
He needed a cab.
He was trying to get the attention of a waiter.
He was calling for the ball.
etc etc etc
#gaslighting
So many stupid excuses . The worst its people who make this excuse , what world we are living it.🤮
They lost there forever, some maybe get out, but will too late.
Rome is in Italy, the birthplace of fascism.
"How strangely will the tools of a tyrant pervert the plain meaning of words." - Sam Adams
Rome is in Italy, the birthplace of fascism.
"How strangely will the tools of a tyrant pervert the plain meaning of words." - Sam Adams