You do know they're not ever going to realize how stupid they were? They are going to say we didn't do a good enough job convincing them not to touch that stove.
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Ok. Calling from the UK here. Post Brexit most of the people who voted for it never publicly back down. They go quiet.
It’s been 8 years. I’m still salty about it. People don’t acknowledge the damage to farming, cost of living etc. it’s always something else. You may never get your gotcha moment
I’ve seen a lot of the same “you lost, get over it” rhetoric we had to deal with too. So many parallels. Given our experience, I’m confident they will never see the acknowledgement and contrition might be hoping for… just an endless doubling down
Yep it’s eerily the same. I had similar shock when the result was announced. Distancing with people who I knew voted pro. Discussions with people who said it’s not about immigration it’s about control (I don’t believe them). Never acknowledging the bad results ( I live in a farming/fishing area)
Make them miserable with hearing it from **everywhere**.
"You did this. You voted for this. This was all you."
They won't get it, but we can sure annoy the shit out of them with the truth. They'll keep touching the stove, but I'll be damned if I don't tell them to stop gaslighting over and over.
My thought is that as long as he's around, he will convince them the pain is someone else's fault for not being loyal enough (R) or for resisting (D). If he's gone before the four years, as evil as JD & Co are, they don't lead the cult. Will the cult will be lost and blame JD & Co for ruining MAGA?
While I get that and think you're absolutely right. That's the core cultists. They need to be ignored and dismissed at this point. 184 Million Americans chose not to participate. We need to focus on waking up as many of them as possible, moving forward.
You know I actually witnessed that once. Wasn’t a stove, it was two pieces of metal that were just cut with a torch. Guy warned him and he still picked it up.
And that's too bad for them. I have cut them off. A shunning the Amish would be proud of and I'm not going back. These people voted to harm others and won't care till it hits them. That's toxic narcissism and I don't need that in my life. Shunned. For good.
The thing is, for conspiracy theorists, there is always another conspiracy. Trump didn’t tank the economy it was Biden’s policies or big tech or Venezuela
One of them knew that importers paid tariffs, but said it only affects consumers IF they pass the price increase along. Bhahaha. Sure. I know my business could afford to sell bikes at a loss.
This is a topic I've heard the most about lately: "what do you think's going to happen when they realize who they voted in?" Right now I'm so cynical, my answers are 1. They already do & only want to see people hurt or 2. They'll blame who he tells them to blame.
I also noticed R’s that were appalled by Trump, and joined us, giving “advise” on how we have to take the mic from progressives.🤮 Harris was perfect. This is on the ignorant, racist, misogynistic, gaslit voters, and the evil liars Fascist Fox “News” and the GOP.
Was reading just yesterday about how it’s liberal’s fault for them voting for Trump. Hillary in particular “talked down to them”…absolutely no accountability.
"They" may not admit to their stupidity or even their gullibility. But there will come a time when they'll realize the horrible mistake they made.
It will come when they start to experience, on a personal level, the harm and destruction Trump is unleashing on them.
Let's hope it's not too late.
No, even as the house burns down they're going to accuse us of not turning the stove off for them, or not building the house out of fireproof magic stone in the first place. Because it's never their fault that it all went up in flames, they knew exactly how to flambe a turkey with a flamethrower.
Which is why I cut them all out of my life and moved on. I'm not hanging around for them to tangle a carrot of understanding. They wouldn't do it for me. They are toxic and selfish and can sink or swim on their own. They did this to everyone.
This is arguably an immoral, bad thought, but my worry is that things won't be bad enough for people to have to reckon with the terrible decision they made
Problem is, MAGAts will ALWAYS come back and say it is the fault of the libs - even when trump is holding a gun to their head. He has rewired their capacity for rational thought.
I have the same thoughts and do kinda feel bad when I have them. But I really feel bad for the folks their foolishness will hurt the most. Maybe we need to hit rock bottom as a country in order to free ourselves of the rot.
They’re very use to comfort here.. we all are. They will cry at the slightest discomfort so I think a lot of them will and since he can’t run again they will try to switch back sides, say they didn’t realize how bad he was gonna be. hardcore MAGA are never coming around but they didn’t tip the scale
I don’t think thoughts can be immoral. Only actions. They took the actions and they’ll reap the consequences. (We will, too, but we don’t have to feel guilt.)
Perhaps I’m simply jaded, but I think it’s generous to believe they’ll feel guilt. They will control all branches of government and still believe the Deep State™️ is running things.
Trump controls all branches of government, not his supporters. They will suffer from his actions.
But I agree, they won’t feel guilt. They blame climate change turbo-charged hurricanes on Democrats with “weather control” machines lol. They will find an excuse for anything.
I’ve come to learn that there are people who won’t ever acknowledge their own missteps and wrongdoings. We need an expert in the art of dealing with difficult people to learn how to navigate around them.
only the true cultists will ignore everything, blame others, the usual. the rest of the idiots will realize they screwed up, some may admit it, some may blame others, but one universal truth is all will suffer no matter how they try to rationalize their choice. already happening with the non cult.
They will absolutely find a way to blame Biden/Democrats in two years when everything is a train wreck. It’s not like they care about logic or being reasonable.
Paul, why is trump so eager to get in the White House? It hasn’t been certified yet and he’s already naming his cabinet picks. Do you think there’s anything off about that? I have a nagging feeling about it….
I think you are to optimistic, from my experience with the soviet union and the true believers from there, the fault is always that someone didn't believe hard enough, the system wasn't flawed, it was saboteurs and 5th columnists that kept it back from being an utopia. They will find enemies!
No, some patterns are universal. The revolution eats its children. At some point Voldemort will root out half his minions and call them “right deviationists” or some such.
Counter-revolutionaries, Democrat sympathisers, republican backpedalers. Someone who wasn't loyal enough within the inner circle, musk's daughter seems like the first to be disowned and purged from the record but not the last.
From an outsiders perspective here, i think at the start of the republic you would be right but as i understand it this is the culmination of groundwork laid as early as Reagan. Everywhere from the French revolution to Pol Pot's Cambodia were different countries and cultures, but some trends persist
Trends persist but so do we. The republicans have been rolling downhill for a while and we’ve been resisting. We will continue to resist. It only works when people roll over.
No. This time they will realize. This time they’re gonna get a good feel. And there will be an all-red everything, so no dems left to blame. And enough of us will be there in their lives to point out how this was an epic failure.
Not only did the dog catch the car it was chasing, it got run over.
The same happened in England with brexit. The idiots who voted for it can’t see the damage it caused, or at least won’t admit it. It’s somebody else’s fault 🙄
Don't kid yourself. America is a nation where half the population is incapable of empathy, compassion, critical thinking, and most of all they'll never take responsibility or hold anyone they like accountable for anything. It's a failing state and deserves everything that comes next
Welcome to dumb people mentality lol. But when things get worse and prices dont come down, many of the long term memory defficients will vote different... again.
And when the shit gets really bad, they’ll say it’s the fault of Biden, or just Democrats in general.
Trump can’t be held accountable, and neither can they. They have the emotional maturity of my 6 year old grandson.
And pundits and commentators are assisting by saying it too.
Spent 1 minute watching MSNBC this am and saw a Latino activists saying Latinos weren’t ignorant when they vote for Trump, the Dems failed to explain that Trump was going to deport them lol.
"activist"?? More like someone looking for attention. If you're really an activist you do the research. This is just plain lazy. They want the money just not the actual work part of it.
It’ll be a tough pill for the nation to swallow. We tried to steer us away from it and the damage it will cause, but they grabbed the wheel and. got us in a crash. Hopefully it’s just a fender bender.
This is the worst part. I genuinely want others to figure it out and realize they have been fooled and misled, but they never will. They never, ever will.
They're already saying basically that. "If only the price of eggs hadn't made me so mad and you know Im too busy to pay attention to the fucking words coming out of the mouth of the weird orange carnival barker except when he says he'll make it all better. I caught that part. It's the left's fault."
I love you, Texas Paul. But they aren't all extremists, just like we aren't. And maybe some of them we didn't do a good enough job. If you think we can't do better, we might as well quit now.
Biden’s economy will provide Trump the Novocain he needs to keep the cult happy - by 2026 after that election resecures Trump with another “mandate” that will when the shift to the Tariff scheme kicks in and it will crush whatever economy their is for anyone making less than $360k py.
Look at it through the lens of an abusive relationship. As a person who escaped that and knows this dynamic all too well, I can safely say: no. They never will.
Somehow it will still be Obama at fault, or Clinton or Biden or, the full moon, on a hot day, in January, during a full lunar eclipse on Mars with the sun in my eyes that caused my dog to eat my homework 🤔
Fuck 'em! I'm sorry I'm not one to use those words in a sentence. But I'm glad my brother has moved on to his next dog show, he died as a supporter of the red hats. If I saw him wearing a red hat, it was coming off one way or another. When shtf they can all go back where they came from 👊
That's why you have to fund the humor in watching them touch it over and over. If these were the type of people to learn from past mistakes he wouldn't have won again.
Bone Spurs will first destroy the economy with his tariffs. Then he initiates an armed conflict to satisfy the military industrial complex and revive that economy. Make this an extended affair and becomes dictator for life.
Trump will come in taking credit for Biden's great economy in a matter of months and his dumbass supporters will all applaud him for what a great job he is doing. Then Trump's tariffs will take affect, and crash our economy. Trump's followers will blame Biden. There are no depths to their stupidity.
You are absolutely right… whatever transpires they will never apportion blame in the right place or accept responsibility for their own ignorance… its a lose, lose for us as far as idiots are concerned- because their brain doesn’t have the self-awareness bit.
Yup. We're at that stage with Brexit. We've had the 'ex-pats' who found that they couldn't stay in Spain because they didn't bother to apply for residence but voted for Brexit. People complaining about not being able to use the EU lane at passport control (They're British. Of course they're entitled
To.) We're hearing 'but I didn't think it would affect me. Why didn't you tell us'. And we sigh, smile sweetly and say 'we did. You just called it Project Fear'. We don't usually point out how rude, abusive and uninformed brexiteers are but maybe we should. It's our lives they have upended as well.
In general, we should be entirely honest. They are too stupid to understand if you explain it nicely, they'll just dismiss it. When people fuck up, we should make it the norm to tell them exactly how badly they screwed up in no uncertain terms. They doomed us, we don't owe them pleasantries.
Remember when we would tell our children not to touch something because it was hot? They actually had to touch something that was Hot before they knew what hot was. That is how I feel about the Republicans. We tried to tell them the damn thing was hot!
Winston Churchill once said:
"Americans will always do the right thing, after they try everything else"
Not sure though if we're at the "everything else" phase yet
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It’s been 8 years. I’m still salty about it. People don’t acknowledge the damage to farming, cost of living etc. it’s always something else. You may never get your gotcha moment
Remind
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"You did this. You voted for this. This was all you."
They won't get it, but we can sure annoy the shit out of them with the truth. They'll keep touching the stove, but I'll be damned if I don't tell them to stop gaslighting over and over.
Do not touch the kettle then.
"Fuck you, I am smart!"
If you say so.
"Ow! The kettle is still hot!"
And that's the challenge going forward.
Because giving up & accepting what is isn't an option for me.
So, turn up the heat and let’s
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It will come when they start to experience, on a personal level, the harm and destruction Trump is unleashing on them.
Let's hope it's not too late.
But I agree, they won’t feel guilt. They blame climate change turbo-charged hurricanes on Democrats with “weather control” machines lol. They will find an excuse for anything.
Their time is coming, especially if they have daughters or sisters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrKZJ87YmMY
Ahhh HAH
I knew the reason I downloaded my twitter archives would reveal itself at some point.
I can see that happening.
As the world catches on fire....we were all sounding the alarm.
It must have been a silent one.
That's the one thing MAGA & some people who didn't want Trump have in common, zero sense of personal responsibility.
Not only did the dog catch the car it was chasing, it got run over.
Trump can’t be held accountable, and neither can they. They have the emotional maturity of my 6 year old grandson.
And pundits and commentators are assisting by saying it too.
Spent 1 minute watching MSNBC this am and saw a Latino activists saying Latinos weren’t ignorant when they vote for Trump, the Dems failed to explain that Trump was going to deport them lol.
We have to get past this idea that voters don’t have some responsibility for the choices they make.
It will be the most used phrase for the next 4 years.🤔
Some will come around when they realize the depth of their mistake.
Many aren’t informed enough to even know his cabinet choices. We’re invested, but very many are not.
And the wax in there ears now has me googling how I can get a passport asap. Fuck this fascist shit
Hopefully, we will rise 💫
AND your ego has to allow you to take that in.
So...no. They will not ever realize what they've done.
They won't ever even fucking understand the world around them.
There is only defeating them.
Trump Voters CRASH HARD after Realizing Their FATAL Mistake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDqxkqkQ9VA
That’s gonna leave a mark.
https://youtu.be/OygHnodf0XM?si=YkkLQ0WYBknv-3yQ
"Americans will always do the right thing, after they try everything else"
Not sure though if we're at the "everything else" phase yet