Not knowing exactly the case. I would think hand written dates would pertain to ballot drop boxes not stamped mail in ballots. Is the law written so poorly there is a question?
Unfortunately, Brian not all “mail-in” ballots are “mailed in”; some are dropped in collection boxes. There is NO logical reason for the ballots to have a date, all collection boxes should be picked up and sealed shortly after closing poll time and all mail in ballots will have a post mark.
Because too many people were saying they wouldn't vote for Trump, but couldn't vote for a Democrat. Or a former prosecutor. Or a woman. Or a minority. Or a Californian. Or someone who let Biden be a candidate. Or usurped Joe's campaign. The results fit the statements being made by the electorate.
Except treasonous tRump stated at MSG Thursday before the election, " I have enough votes you don't need to vote. I'm good!" Musk stated same night if treasonous tRump didn't win he was going to prison! The lines were huge. I'm not buying women gave their lives & rights away? BULLSHIT!
You may not buy it, but we watched it happen. The ugly truth is too many of us didn't vote, and of those who did, too many chose not to vote for any presidential candidate.
These clods do not have the skills to steal an election without leaving evidence all over the place.
Keep grasping at straws, but the ugly truth is that voters let a twice-impeached fraud-committing money-laundering sexually predatory convicted felon win the election because they erroneously believed Harris wasn't a better option.
She's a jewel isn't she? I swear to God that they should just 🤫 or actually keep talking I'm sure late night TV enjoys the material and don't forget SNL.
Also very dangerous to democracy. They're going to do shit we've never seen before. What we saw the last 3 months is where they want to stay: completely cucked by Donald Trump, unable to check him, "because voters" except they want to remove the voting part. Just 100% fascism.
Bottom Line: IMPEACHMENT. That is the only “MEDICINE” We The People have to focus on.
C’mon people, let’s be Real!
The SCOTUS which is the ONLY remedy to the stop against this nightmare it’s all IN to control & Destroy the Checks & Balances of this corrupt administration. We NEED TO IMPEACH!
In PA & most states the postmark date on envelope is noted & the date it made it to its location on website tracker. Outside envelopes can’t be opened until polling locations close, and then the data with dates opened, scanned/counted are then listed if you want to check your ballot status,
And if it arrives before the election deadline, the handwritten date is kind of irrelevant, isn’t it?
I mean, if I fill it out on Monday, & don’t actually mail it for a few days, & election day is still a week or more away, the written date is not important, right?
@insurrectionbarbie.bsky.social is one of the main reasons I left Twitter ... now this Eejit thinks she's welcome here on Bluesky ... Hey I-Barbie, fuck off, sweetie
She's an "online influencer," so there's a much greater chance she's intentionally spreading what she knows to be misinformation, disinformation, and/or propaganda.
Not to mention that the large majority of undated ballots are received before election day, which means that they can't possibly have been mailed after election day.
Another “oopsie” by MAGA. “You mean they stamp the date on all mail?” BTC is correct, this was just another attempt by Trump and his minions to try rigging elections in their favor. They should spend their time on serving their constituents instead of trying to keep their job.
PA requires mail in ballots to be received by 8 PM on Election Day so the handwritten date and the post mark are both basically irrelevant anyway. If the rule was it has to be post marked by election day, then okay, the post mark has relevance. The handwritten date has absolutely no purpose.
As someone who works elections in PA, you can only get a mail ballot between certain dates and they have to arrive by 8 pm on election day. So what exactly is the reason for putting a date on the envelope? It's only to make it easier for the GOP to toss the ballots.
Of course.. because the GOP is nothing but a party for the liars, thieves, & dirty dealers. If they could win elections on policy, they wouldn't be Republicans.
lol - I was trying to figure out which MAGA girl @briantylercohen.bsky.social had dubbed “insurrection Barbie.” MTG? Boebert? And then I read the actual exchange. And the fact that someone proudly calls themselves that says so much about the state of our country the last 15 years…
BUT ALSO WHY WE NEED LEGIT/EFFICIENT PUBLIC POST OFFICE.
The “postmark rule” appears in Proced. & Admin. Regs., and provides that the USPS postmark is conclusive in determining whether the document was timely mailed and therefore timely filed.
She's a brainless "clone" just like all other fake blonde Barbies (Noem, Bondi, KKKaroline,etc) who cosplay themselves as legit for the convicted 🍊🤥💩felon.
The more Barbies to spread lies, the more the merrier, like state run Fox news, the more the lies become the truth for MAGA. Repeat & rinse. 🤥
Wonder if they’ve ever thought of having policies that attract people of all walks, instead of this shit show, maybe they wouldn’t have to lie, cheat steal and manipulate they way they do. They could always try to win fairly, but….
Since "Insurrection Barbie" is almost certainly a group of code-kiddies working out of a troll farm in a basement somewhere in Vladivostok, that shouldn't be surprising.
PA hasn't accepted ballots that arrive after election day, for years. So even a postmark is irrelevant. If the ballot hasn't arrived, the ballot hasn't arrived.
The date requirement is a vestige of when the date mattered.
PROJECT 2025 framers are behind TRUMP, he's following all the objectives they have proposed. Why is NO one calling them out so they can be seen by every American. We're being attacked by billionaires behind the scenes. THEOCRACY is the goal, at any price.
I’m sure Insurrection Barbie knows exactly how mail voting works. Explaining that to her following doesn’t garner ‘clicks’ so she goes with the sales/stupid narrative.
Increasing social complexity creates greater capacity for boundless stupidity and a higher risk that some of us #MAGA will be hoodwinked by charismatic imbeciles.
I love how they never realize when they're making the point for us lmao. Reminds me of that guy on Twitter who made the post about how the left uses facts-based research so it's harder to deconstruct leftist "propaganda" lol.
A post mark is an assertion by the government that it has taken control of the ballot. That is legally the point when the voter cast their ballot. That is how it works with the IRS and tax returns. Why do Republicans think a post mark should not apply with ballots?
Geez I thought "insurrection barbie" was one of the Left ones. It's tough when all the shmacko accounts on both the Left & Right are mostly these faceless provocateurs with stupid names (that are likely all in the same room posting with each other to boot.)
TBF, if you're going to voluntarily call yourself INSURRECTION Barbie, while defending the current administration, I'm already just assuming you don't know English works.
A machine stamped envelope always has a date on it. ALWAYS. Speaking as a mail carrier who delivered and picked up thousands of ballots in 2020 & 2024. I hate when ignorant people think they’re smart
BTW, "Insurrection Barbie" is likely a bearded, morbidly obese, 45 year old Russian sitting in front of a conputer in the basement of some troll farm in Moscow.
You see her posts all the time on the other site. They're always pushing either a blatant lie or a baseless conspiracy born from incorrect information.
They will lose in the midterms because people are tired of the bullshit. This bitch is like the rest looking for an excuse for fake outrage to use when they eventually lose the races in the midterms. Only place proven for them to win is Florida because of all the idiots there.
Those are definitely the best option for sane American's, but it's also been found that over 3M ballots were purged during 24'. MAGA is doing whatever they can to destroy the process for us to have a say.
We need sane reps in districts/govn to stop the crooks.
My first tax return ever, I dropped my paper return into a mailbox on the due date & later found out the postmark was two days after the deadline. I wrote the date on the outside of the envelope as the instructions indicated. The IRS tried to impose a fine on me, the date prevented it.
Don’t you get it? Many can’t. Seniors in nursing homes, homebound individuals with medical or other needs, college students away at school but with a permanent legal address in my state, military members away on deployment with permanent, legal addresses… for start.
I understand. As a regulator at SNFs I enforce the facilities getting ppl to the polls. I can't fix the rest. If Rs hadn't voted for Trump & the 1/3 who didn't vote did vote we wouldn't be where we are. Lobby ppl to vote blue, run for something, look for solutions.
I'm an activist, coming at me isn't a solution. Statistically if the 1/3 vote blue it will more than compensate for ppl who can't vote in person. Once we have control we can enshrine a fair mail-in process for those who can't go in person.
Right, and PA dems fought to have this voting restriction removed to make voting easier and fairer yet you can on here and said just go in person instead of being glad we won a fight. I don’t get it.
I wonder if there are statutes that discuss the postal code? I know my state law addresses postal dates, but what I'm familiar with is in a niche area. I'm unaware of election statutes.
While I'm thinking about it, some 3rd party and postal services use a barcode and leave the envelope undated, this has caused issues for our constituents, but hasn't been addressed statutorily. So they could fudge it both ways.
And, at least in Palm Beach County, the place to write the date is way up in the right hand corner on the back and you have to seal the envelope before writing the date, and it is very easy to not see that requirement. Note: I do not know if PBC accepts undated ballot envelopes.
The one reason for the decision at one point was that people could write 7/4/1776 and it would still count. GOP always try to mess with elections in PA
Yeah, it's the lack of handwritten dates that's gonna cost them the midterms.
Not the total destruction of due process, civil liberties, the US economy, the federal government, relationships with our allies, any shred of normalcy, or starting a stupid trade war.
Is 'Insurrection Barbie' pissed that she's not anatomically correct? How does one not understand postage, envelopes, tracking, or the intricacies of a mailbox door?😬
Whomever tried putting that forward should be found guilty of Attempted Mail Fraud and Conspiring to Commit Terrorism (or whatever undermining democracy counts as)
You can't return it before it's sent to you, so that's a bound on the start date. And it has to be in their hands when the ballots are counted, thus an end date.
They have no idea what they are doing it is insanity and why most republicans continue to go along with this makes no sense. Do they think they will be voted back into office? Maybe it’s the we have to go for it mentality because if they lose all this craziness going on they all know they are done.
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Census determines Electoral College.
EC determines president.
People's vote applies to city, county, state, and federal Congress representation.
These clods do not have the skills to steal an election without leaving evidence all over the place.
I would have been more like, "ALL DELIVERED MAIL IS ALREADY POSTMARKED YOU BIG DUMB BITCH"
C’mon people, let’s be Real!
The SCOTUS which is the ONLY remedy to the stop against this nightmare it’s all IN to control & Destroy the Checks & Balances of this corrupt administration. We NEED TO IMPEACH!
I mean, if I fill it out on Monday, & don’t actually mail it for a few days, & election day is still a week or more away, the written date is not important, right?
IB apparently wants those ballots thrown out too.
Glad you pointed this out
Made it fresh relevancy
Who is this deceptive Barbie?
So little time!
If they could only read and actually understand what they've read.
BUT ALSO WHY WE NEED LEGIT/EFFICIENT PUBLIC POST OFFICE.
The “postmark rule” appears in Proced. & Admin. Regs., and provides that the USPS postmark is conclusive in determining whether the document was timely mailed and therefore timely filed.
The more Barbies to spread lies, the more the merrier, like state run Fox news, the more the lies become the truth for MAGA. Repeat & rinse. 🤥
Once again it’s all about the projection. Accusing others of what they do so well.
(What a name on that one! Insurrection Barbie! There’s no way to frame any aspect of it as being contrary to deep, deep batshittiness.)
The date requirement is a vestige of when the date mattered.
And tell your Reps to VOTE NO on the SAVE ACT!! It saves nothing (big surprise from this administration, I know)
So in midterms, when we lose races, it's because of insane rulings like this!"
Also wtf stops someone writing a date to backdate it if they are already committing fraud?
Increasing social complexity creates greater capacity for boundless stupidity and a higher risk that some of us #MAGA will be hoodwinked by charismatic imbeciles.
It triggers an allergic reaction
#handsoff
Don't forget about any of the Americans this regime is trying to make disappear...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/08/mahmoud-khalil-wife-letter?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
The transmission of Votes from the polling station to the courthouse on election day has been compromised by the GOP.
We need sane reps in districts/govn to stop the crooks.
https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/
She has Everything.
🇮🇪🇪🇺😳
But, those like you do what you can to make it fair at the ballot locations and that's all you can do.
Felon is, and will ALWAYS be, a con.
https://www.c-span.org/clip/public-affairs-event/user-clip-trump-admits-they-rigged-the-election/5150039
Sounds ominous.
Not the total destruction of due process, civil liberties, the US economy, the federal government, relationships with our allies, any shred of normalcy, or starting a stupid trade war.
You can't return it before it's sent to you, so that's a bound on the start date. And it has to be in their hands when the ballots are counted, thus an end date.