Why use language ("blistering" "attack") that makes this US meddler and toady sound powerful,
competent, and inspired? And conversely why use words that make European leaders sound weak and compliant ("stun")? Words matter.
The really odd thing was listening to him bang in about Biden. My brother in Christ, no one in that room gives two shits about your country’s internal politics. So staggeringly tone-deaf and a perfect illustration of how out-of-their-depth this group of political and intellectual lightweights are.
He can’t be trusted or taken seriously. Just a couple of years ago, he was denouncing Trump. Now he’s literally bending over & spreading ass for him. He is one of the many insecure men who will do or say anything to feel important or curry favor.
Hey now, he and his administration are so busy loving free speech by deleting words and phrases they don't like from everything they can get their hands on, they barely have time to think about how much the pope hates them
Kremlin’s puppet’s puppet publicly attacks Putin’s enemies for him, undercutting global democracy and undermining US standing in the world. As Putin grins approvingly, US allies prepare to build a US-less alliance to lead the global fight against fascism.
The gall of an American to use language like this to call out the dangers of immigration when there are literally mass school shootings almost every day and they refuse to do anything about it. They really are a bunch of stupid idiots over there.
Trust in democracy had eroded, and within months, it would cease to exist. Similar fault lines threaten democracies today. In the US, UK, and beyond, we see the same mechanisms at play: economic instability, radicalization, and a weakening of democratic norms.
This headline is huge fail for The Guardian. I’m so tired of the media normalizing bat shit crazy fascist behavior. The EU needs to throw him out on his ass
The man is an utter Pig. Did not meet with the current centre left leader as protocol suggests she should. But meets with far-right Afd, a party that is as close to Nazism as you can get.
Stuns?! That the US did in Helsinki 2018 and in 2019 when with drawing from Nato. Now US spell it out. It is time to wake up EU leaders. You overslept badly.
@europeancommission
Hello EU. Maybe now is the time to exercise some spine. Maybe start with closing down all US military bases in the EU which number approx. 100. A good start would be to invalidate all visas for military personnel.
He hit an absolute low point, never seen at these meetings before, in an attempt to divert attention away from, the 🇷🇺illegal invasion of 🇺🇦 by and all the land 🇷🇺 are trying to steal. Republicans has become 🇷🇺 puppets - sad
This piece of shit dares to lecture us on "values" as he silences opposition, abandons the rule of law and dismantles democracy in his own country and interferes in our elections promoting the far right. These are no allies.
A mission statement that European leaders must take a face value. It's jarring and terrifying, but we must recognize the overnight pivot to pariah state and act accordingly.
I am so glad we are not a klone of the USA, because what is happening there has nothing to do with a democratic guidecountry, really nothing. Worthless if it stays like this.
What US values ? Weekly mass shootings in schools ? Veterans living in the streets ? Promoting racial hate ? Stripping social security from the poor ? The list might be a few kilometers long. You are right JD, we don't share the same values.
Vance: seemingly arrogant and out of touch, but a remarkable catalyst for Europe to come together, to protect Ukraine, and to build a more sustainable security for EU citizens. Onward!
Hope you are right. We seem to be unifying Canada. Im in the US and i know there will be no breaking of the culture war oligarchy zombified parrots hold on our government until we are completely in a depression or ww3 breaks out. Even then magas will go to their graves believing they are right.
Europe will have to wake up to the fact that the United States is no longer an ally. Putin owns Trump. The old order is done and Europe is now the leader of the (shrinking) free world.
One thing’s for sure … JD sure knows how to win friends and influence people.
Just ask the Europeans at the Munich conference … the ones who used to like us …
They have destroyed any trust with Canada also. The art of the deal is turn everyone against you. A cancer on us all, Putin, Trump, NK, Netanyahu, Xi and Iran.
Vance was plucked from obscurity and groomed for a political career by uber-Libertarian Peter Thiel.
Their ultimate aim is to destroy the nation state as we know it, with its power and money falling into their hands.
Long term, a bigger threat than Trump.
Trump’s team exploits the concept of freedom of speech by advocating for total deregulation, with the goal of creating an environment where misinformation and their propaganda can thrive under the guise of free debate. And it’s accelerating with Associated Press being banned from Oval Office
Vance thinks he's inspiring right-wing voters in Europe.
Unfortunately for Vance they are outnumbered by people who like democracy better than dictators.
He doesn't have the Fox "News" advantage in Europe.
Are we sure of that ? The propaganda machine is also very powerful in Europe, and social media has no borders. Also, wise and polite democrats don't always vote, while extremists always do (the irony).
I think Vance, Trump & Musk too, are causing more damage to the far right wannabes all over Europe, UK included, than are helping them.....however, the press, UK Guardian included, do have a healthy obsession for promoting the likes of Reform as they generate clicks, giggles & engagement. Dangerous.
I didn’t think Europeans took such honesty well. Much of what he said is fair; eg it’s for Europe to defend Ukraine rather than some far away foreign power. The complacency here is astonishing as we miss wake up call after wake up call. No wonder Europeans are so unhappy and looking for new solution
European leadeeeers!!:Apeasement politics this time or productive prevention and resistance? Up to you, EPP!!! You long for political power!!! Chamberlain or Churchill?Then some Attlee to do the right thing for a society,a country for 6 years at least:have mercy for your society, country, you owner
JD Vance made the most of his world stage performance. He is pretending to promote Trump’s chaotic policies.
but in fact is establishing his own ambitious agenda. He has a perfect platform to push his own ultra right agenda. Beware of the wolf in sheep’s clothing!!!!
It wasn't a blistering speech at all, for it to be 'blistering' you would need to respect the speaker. It was just a fool parroting his fool leaders' thoughts....actually laughable.
The problem with JD Vance is that he has zero awareness of how he comes across to others. Actually, he is also an ego maniac with no compassion. What a disaster and terrifying for us Americans.
Oh noes... JD Vance doesn't approve of us!!!!!!! WHATEVER SHALL WE DO!
"If everyone likes you, you're doing something wrong"
~ Churchill or someone... said something like that
He made the German minister rewrite his introduction. He didn't 'stun' anyone; he appalled them with his hypocritical ignorance. Members of a cult always have to out-cult the leader. Apparently, Trump used to be America's Hitler, the guy said!
Ladies and gentleman the United States Gas Lighter general. His offices mottos "no you're the one who did that!" and "why do you keep hitting yourself." The USA is run by idiots.
I’m so sorry, Europe. Please don’t listen to a damn word our lying fucktards tell you. Their words are poison. Everything they say comes straight from the fascism playbook.
They are nothing more than a gang of gorillas, thugs, imitators of their boss and Putin. How long will it take them to threaten us with their nuclear weapons if we do not buy their products and do what they say? They call themselves Christians, but I believe they serve dark satanic interests.
Really. Europe needs to snap out of this delusion that we're still "friends" with the US. The Trump regime is an authoritarian threat, same as Putin, not an ally. It should be contained, not entertained.
#Americans have been listening to versions of “blistering rants” from VP Vance & #Trump for many months.
The effect is often anger & embarrassment. Hoping #Europeans will forge a united way ahead with #Ukraine, hopefully in #NATO, since it’s unlikely US will be much help.
As a Cdn, exposed to US media & culture on a daily basis since the early 60s, it's always been a highly racist, self proud, arrogant, hyper religious/partisan & intellectually ignorant nation. The $ greed factor kicked in during the 80s while regular mass & school shootings started around 1999/2000.
Musk freedom of expression: Musk sued Tesla customers in China because they publicly complained about (proven malfunctions, brakes not working resulting in an accident). The noble knight of freedom of expression saves humanity
TBH the amount of influence Fascists get is mostly proportional to how useless the electoral system is... 20% Fascists in a country with PR & 80% turnout don't have much influence, the same in a country with districts & under 60% turnout & they can end up running the country...
I hope so. Trump’s tariffs and repeat threats against your sovereignty barely made a difference in the polls. Do they really think having a mini Trump is the answer?
As for his comments about freedom of religious expression, he can stick his right wing, misogynistic, Christian Nationalist bullshit right back up where it belongs.
We know enough about Vance’s speech now to know what he says is so gaslit he means just about the opposite of the words he uses. To equate Greta, a high schooler when she began, with the richest man on the planet is ripe.
It is humiliating on a daily basis to have this man and his fellow magats get in front of a microphone and speak as though he speaks for me and millions in this country. I just want to crawl under a rock when he speaks.
What a stupid lump of crap.
Why USA why, if any other country acted like the orange parasite and his sidekicks, Americans would be the first to ask them if they were insane.
How are there so many idiots in the USA.
How far the USA has fallen.
Bunch of snake oil salesmen.
Yep, pretty much this. Systematic weakening of all the systems that create critical thinking skills, and a sharp uptick in bullying to kill the ability to dissent.
For that brainless clown to critique Europe real and excellent freedom of speech when the US right now is gagging officials and academics is Peak Hypocrisy.
A loathsome dangerous individual whose raison d’être is to divide Europe .The EU to be especially weary about American intentions to make the EU weaker via division and conquer if not by itself though Putin .
Just wondering if anyone actually went into the European Security Conference in Munich last week thinking, 'Well, at least the keynote speaker from the USA is bound to be a renowned scholar of European politics, with a long and eminent history of service in Government.'
One thing America seems to be Great at, is making everyone hate them. The arrogance and stupidity, to lecture European leaders about "values" when JD Vance's values are ...what? To have lots of Christian babies, be a racist, and work for a dictator?
We must stop normalizing all of the fascist rhetoric. How about interviews with federal workers that lost their jobs. How about the ghastly amount of local legislation introduced in the states mirroring P2025? How about where the heck are all our former democratic and military leaders?
It's not simply fascism; it’s about destabilizing 🇩🇪, the EU’s backbone. They see EU as weak but 🇨🇳 & 🇷🇺 as strong, while China & Russia see the U.S. as strong but still despise them. They’ll happily watch the 'West' destroy themselves; Schadenfreude at its finest. They must think, we're so stupid!
The fact that JD does not have a glancing acquaintance with a single interpersonal/social skill, only goes to exponentially increase the complete distatefulness of his words.
JD Vance came to Munich to give a speech for the US MAGA following domestically and to give support for #AfD in the upcoming elections internationally. Old MAGA & Musk playbook on "free speech" & "democracy".
I didn’t actually hear anything that I would call a “blistering attack”. More of an… insult. I mean, what was the substance? Just an idiot mouthing off.
This should stand as a call-to-action for non-US and Russian nations to quickly get together and plan on how to deal with this hostile nation and preserve their values and economy.
If smaller nations have a group to turn to, they will be less likely to be coerced by the US
He looked a fool. Lies & hatred might be classed as free speach by the far right but anyone with honour, decency, humility, civility, compassion & empathy do not believe lies & miss-information should be a normalised part of public discourse, most of us have higher values, morals & resolution
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competent, and inspired? And conversely why use words that make European leaders sound weak and compliant ("stun")? Words matter.
It’s very effective with uneducated people.
It was a fascist attack. It was not normal
Way to play the violin while the world burns.
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Vance can oligargle these nuts
Second thought he acted like a fucking pompous ass.
Says the man whose boss was elected in 2016 off the back of Russian electoral interference.
The lack of a sense of irony is stunning.
Quiz: Is JD Vance talking about the consequences of immigration in Europe or the many mass shootings, largely in schools, across America?
https://www.plagueisland.com/p/wake-up-call-the-echoes-of-weimar
Hello EU. Maybe now is the time to exercise some spine. Maybe start with closing down all US military bases in the EU which number approx. 100. A good start would be to invalidate all visas for military personnel.
You can’t say “Gulf of Mexico” or “felon” in the Whitehouse.
Banned words in the US like “gender” and “bias” exist.
“Diversity”, “equity”, and “inclusion” is being erased.
Kindly, fuck him.
Just ask the Europeans at the Munich conference … the ones who used to like us …
Can not expect ANY help from America
The lunatics in charge of the US at the moment could not care less about any historic allies in Europe ….too busy sidling up to Putin ( & AfD)
Their ultimate aim is to destroy the nation state as we know it, with its power and money falling into their hands.
Long term, a bigger threat than Trump.
Unfortunately for Vance they are outnumbered by people who like democracy better than dictators.
He doesn't have the Fox "News" advantage in Europe.
but in fact is establishing his own ambitious agenda. He has a perfect platform to push his own ultra right agenda. Beware of the wolf in sheep’s clothing!!!!
"If everyone likes you, you're doing something wrong"
~ Churchill or someone... said something like that
Sorry old chap, but they are not your friends. They clearly don't view us as friends. They don't like us. Normal times are over.
We must repair our actual special relationship with the EU, we must rejoin the EU.
Join the European Movement UK and help build the campaign for a better future!
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The effect is often anger & embarrassment. Hoping #Europeans will forge a united way ahead with #Ukraine, hopefully in #NATO, since it’s unlikely US will be much help.
@kajakallas.bsky.social
Is a vote for people who facilitate the rise of Fascism actually a vote against Fascism?
As for his comments about freedom of religious expression, he can stick his right wing, misogynistic, Christian Nationalist bullshit right back up where it belongs.
Don't crawl under a rock ... get a pitch-fork and let your voice be heard loud and clear.
The world is not against the American people and will support you if you revolt.
What a Couch 🛋️ Fucker!!
Why USA why, if any other country acted like the orange parasite and his sidekicks, Americans would be the first to ask them if they were insane.
How are there so many idiots in the USA.
How far the USA has fallen.
Bunch of snake oil salesmen.
No shame
Talking like a possessed
#JDVance
The smallest hysterically hateful toddlers
For people living in reality:
https://bsky.app/profile/germanwondering.bsky.social/post/3li67pvn4k22u
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/183434-britannus-shocked-caesar-this-is-not-proper-theodotus-outraged-how
If smaller nations have a group to turn to, they will be less likely to be coerced by the US
maybe he should remember what he is
Get the hell out of here
You sully my 🇪🇺sol with your boots full of neo-fascist dung.
Go home and feed your stupid cattle 🇺🇸 and worry instead about the manure of legal proceedings that's sticking to your shoes.
As your Afd buddies would say: "Raus!