I'm fairly certain not even his own mother liked Donald Trump. Maybe there is something said for having a liar as an MP. If he keeps up support for Ukraine and coddles Trump with dinners with Charles (though didn't Trump and Andrew meet a lot back in the Epstein hayday?)...
Because Donald Trump is a narcissist who responds to flattery. Better to have Trump as an ally rather than as an enemy. I’m sure Starmer detests Trump in reality.
And cares a LOT about the precarious situation for 🇬🇧 exports for 🇺🇸
I might like Trump too if my life or others depended on it.
Otherwise I consider him a delusional, hateful old man that has a bond with Putin and 🇷🇺 that normally would have been reason no 3 for putting him in prison.
Starmer 'respects' and 'likes' this convicted felon.
How revealing but not surprising considering the policies Starmer is following in the UK and his blind eye when it comes to the genocide & other war crimes being inflicted upon millions of innocent Palestinian citizens in Gaza.
I understand the need for diplomacy, but it boggles the mind how any foreign leader can answer a question about Trump without accidentally blurting out “that moron.”
People with a legal background use words as tools.They can side with prosecution or defence. Defence can be funny and exaggerate and play the crowd. Prosecution can’t as facts matter
Starmer’s words are likely a facade for the Orange one. His skill is *not* throwing up while saying them
So Starmer, a liar that we can’t trust to tell the truth, is telling us to trust Trump, a liar that we can’t trust to tell the truth, to not lie and to tell the truth.
Jesus christ. UK, get your shit in order while you still can. Learn from our sniveling, toady "liberal" party and their utter uselessness in staving off fascism. Get Labour set right, or you'll likely suffer our fate in four years.
For all the people whinging in the replies saying you like and respect the most powerful person in the world is just politically the objectively correct thing to do. Doesn’t mean Keir believes it necessarily.
The context of this contradictory article only furthers a regrettably growing distrust in The Guardian & its apparently newish but sickeningly cheap ‘client journo’ style anti Labour/pro-Reform stance (yet another pro-Reform article again today) - disgraceful👎
Are Starmer admnd Schumer related? They look somewhat similar and they are both massively kissing Trump's ass. Labour finally gets elected and they run the government exactly the same as the Torries.
I hoped he was intelligent and measured on Trump, but he’s proving to be the biggest ring-kisser so far—or he’s being extremely duplicitous. Either way, he’s no friend of Canada and shouldn’t be trusted.
You're right. But why is the King of Canada giving Trump a UK State Visit? I'd like to think the Moron will get a right royal dressing down. But the Trump ass kissing UK PM has fixed it so it's unlikely.
Saying nice things to a demented criminal solipsist just adds your name as a proxied endorsement to his next lie. How are we supposed to respect or even like Kier Starmer after he shows himself to be such a fool and so unsupported by functional advisors? Led by sheep indeed.
Nope, it destroys his credibility, the electorate think Trump is an idiot, that he doesn't says he's incompetent, it will prevent him doing anything in the UK. A good politician would say those things in private to Trump (if they were necessary), not be made to look like an idiot, or a fool.
Naive fool. Playing the diplomatic sycophantic card too much. Witkoff said he respected Putin and that he was "super smart". No need to flatter arseholes who don't value what's morally right (and probably never did). "Might makes right" seems to be the new American zeitgeist.
If that's truly what he believes he's not fit to be PM. If he said it to win brownie points he's an obsequious little man. Neither of those positions feel OK in the current climate. I can't believe this is a Labour PM
He's not going to say he thinks Trump's a nasty senile little fascist shit, is he. On the one hand he's helping put together support for Ukraine with no help from the USA, on the other he is appealing to Trump's vanity in order to escape direct tariffs. It's an unsavoury balancing act. Realpolitik.
The UK stands alone now and being out of the EU has hurt it in so many ways...the economics are so dicey there after Brexit and years of Tory austerity! I was working in London when Thatcher started undermining the NHS. Blair attempted to inject more $ but the die was cast. I love
my old NHS card!
Reading the comments is quite interesting. I see a lot of "Neville Chamberlain"-yadayada. And nobody seems to understand that this as about relations with the U.S. and not Trump personally.
Is this a narrative planted by those who'd like to weaken the UK by paving the way for Farage and his friends?
That's what I would say in his position as well. This is all politics and diplomacy. What we say and what we think isn't always the same thing.
Keep the orange toddler in a good mood, to give us more time to build up our defences. That's what this is all about.
I wish more people would realise that.
I agree...
I also think that to some extent PPL are venting here because of his domestic policies, which are grim & unexpected...
This does feed in to this on the level of lack of trust in the man...
His policies are from but the Tory years did the damage leading to the precarious nature of the British economy right now. Brexit not a big help, either!
It was no better 40 years ago, Labour or Tory (& Lib, LibDem, DUP, UUP, SDLP in coalition or as sister parties) I have spent my entire adult life (& a good deal of my childhood) watching the UK fall to pieces under every single government over the whole period...
Yes, it's been sad to see. It was my dream to live there, but I also learned about how tough it was for some of the people I worked with, circa 85-86. I worked a series of temp jobs mostly in a bank, big accounting firm.
Left the UK in '92, did shitty jobs until I became disabled, now I am disabled there isn't a day that goes by that I'm not thankful I don't live in the UK, I would be well and truly fucked if I did, I tell Dutch PPL how bad it is & have to give them evidence because they can't believe it is that bad
Yes. It's like having one irresponsible parent taking care of the family economy for a few years, by borrowing money to finance a lifestyle that the family can't afford.
Then a responsible parent steps in to take over, and suddenly all the loans are due. It's important to know who to blame then.
UK problem is, both parents are incompetent, & they let the mess pile up for the other one to deal with, who in turn, lets it pile up some more, UK has been like that for generations...
Correct. I just saw some crackpot telling others to block me because I'm a "Starmer disinformation account", so it's obviously a lot of feelings at play here.
In politics it's always about picking the lesser evil. Demand perfection and you might end up with the worst option. Like Trump or Farage.
IDK about 'lesser evilism' a political system that encourages it is what has gotten the UK, US, India, & a few others in deep trouble
I prefer proper democracy, where political parties set out their stalls based on their beliefs, then compromise to form coalitions, cuts down on the false promises
I think we all prefer proper democracy, but I'm too old to believe in having a perfect candidate to vote for.
We vote for what we want. If that isn't an option, we vote for something that's good enough. If that isn't an option either, we vote against what we don't want.
I'm in NL, very proportional, usually is a candidate I can vote for without reservation with a chance, that being said, we seem to be entering a period of more tactical voting where many PPL are doing it as a bulwark against the hard right
A lot on the left seem to have problems with compromise
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Especially if they're Senile and Thin skinned, snd Vengeful to anyone whose displeased him.
Mate! MATE! The bus has left the dee-poh!!! Trump and America are on it! At best they have fucked off. At worst
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I might like Trump too if my life or others depended on it.
Otherwise I consider him a delusional, hateful old man that has a bond with Putin and 🇷🇺 that normally would have been reason no 3 for putting him in prison.
That's Starmer-Labour through and through.
It amazes me that some public figures treat that first item, in particular, as though it's incidental and unimportant.
#ScottishPlay
How revealing but not surprising considering the policies Starmer is following in the UK and his blind eye when it comes to the genocide & other war crimes being inflicted upon millions of innocent Palestinian citizens in Gaza.
Starmer’s words are likely a facade for the Orange one. His skill is *not* throwing up while saying them
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You don’t have to mean it, just say it.
Call him “King Donald” and you might just get what you want.
UK belongs with the rest Europe, and in the 21st century that means the EU.
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Appeasement is suicide!
…and now, you’re on the same list.
He is lying.
We can rant & rave but our politicians must behave and be diplomatic. Use the stick when needed, not when you got the urge....
Look what Putin does - it works.
After all, domestic issues are not resolved by posturing on foreign policy issues.
my old NHS card!
Is this a narrative planted by those who'd like to weaken the UK by paving the way for Farage and his friends?
Keep the orange toddler in a good mood, to give us more time to build up our defences. That's what this is all about.
I wish more people would realise that.
I also think that to some extent PPL are venting here because of his domestic policies, which are grim & unexpected...
This does feed in to this on the level of lack of trust in the man...
Then a responsible parent steps in to take over, and suddenly all the loans are due. It's important to know who to blame then.
In politics it's always about picking the lesser evil. Demand perfection and you might end up with the worst option. Like Trump or Farage.
I prefer proper democracy, where political parties set out their stalls based on their beliefs, then compromise to form coalitions, cuts down on the false promises
We vote for what we want. If that isn't an option, we vote for something that's good enough. If that isn't an option either, we vote against what we don't want.
A lot on the left seem to have problems with compromise
Pity