That story was way too long to just say what we all know "dude with some talent used it to gain power and persuasion over young women and took advantage of them sexually." Tale as old as time.
Seth, you of call people should know better that Neil Gaiman is not like this, and that media smear machines are out to destroy people's lives by not vetting allegations. Gaiman is smeared, Trump and Hegseth and Kavanaugh and Gaetz walk.
Celebrities always think they can just put on a fake name and go forth on the internet to do battle for their honor, and it never occurs to them that no one but them would do that.
“From the minute you entwined your fate with mine on ponsonby road i’ve been glad i met you. That is tenfold so now.” was a profoundly bizarre thing for Palmer to say to Pavlovich when that interaction lead to Pavlovich getting raped by Gaiman. It's giving Ghislaine Maxwell.
It's a pack of lies. Neil Gaiman is a thorough progressive ally who would never engage in behavior like this. He's not Jimmy Savile, because Savile's good deeds were only superficial, and no one actually LIKED Savile. Gaiman is not the world's greatest method actor...
I'm aware people can be many things at once. The later Peter Yarrow comes to mind. But Gaiman is not that. The evidence suggests that he is who he says he is, and he's being crucified by a relentless smear machine.
☝️This. People like to think that predators are 💯% evil all the time, and are only superficially charming. But the most prolific predators, esp. in positions of care, are genuinely caring and competent. This does *not* excuse their behaviour. Rather, it helps us protect ourselves and each other.
I'm aware of this. But Gaiman would have to be a different level of method actor, more obsessive than Heath Ledger, to be what he is accused of being. No one can put up that kind of facade to the point that they can fake being an ally to the point of it being ingrained in their bones.
...who seems to somehow fake this stance as being down to his bones. The podcast is owned by a group made of of TERFs who just want to condemn Gaiman for his support of trans rights and to seek "revenge" for J.K. Rowling self-immolating. They also rely on kinkshaming to impose a puritanical...
...standard that says anything other than vanilla sex is wrong. And now these new claims are just trying to graft on some NXIVM-level horrors onto someone whose character does not support this. These claims are ludicrous, and I'm sick and tired of lynch mob justice and throwing out rule of law.
So many people, especially valuable progressive allies, are being thrown on the rack without due process, simply judged as guilty without trial, and false allegations are completely destroying their lives and reputations. I'm sick of it. We've been doing this since Al Franken, and learned nothing.
This isn’t kink-shaming. Kink without consent is assault, just as vanilla sex without consent is assault. The issue here is the lack of consent, not the specific acts. From what I’ve seen, the kink community is pissed off at him for trying to pass this off as consensual kink.
The podcast is owned by a company that is run by TERFs and engages in kinkshaming. Kinkshaming is de rigueur among Gen Z now, and a lot of progressives are buying that. The women have ample reason and justification to lie, they don't need to have met or collaborated with each other to do so...
Its true. Its like the feeling before a big thunderstorm breaks. There will be no relief when this breaks tho. There is going to be alot of violence against women. I've read bits that suggest women won't be allowed credit, or bank acct--or to own property. I hope this is not true.
Exactly! We are going to stop them though. It makes me so angry that we have to keep on fighting the same battles, but we will win in the end. All of those things used to be true about women's rights, or lack thereof, not that long ago. I remember some of it as a kid 😢
Untalented dullards are also often unhinged-one of them is about to be President - but it is not that talented people are rewarded by being allowed to be predators.
Rather that being a predator is generally rewarded.
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My limit of...ZERO articles?
https://archive.is/2025.01.13-141009/https://www.vulture.com/article/neil-gaiman-allegations-controversy-amanda-palmer-sandman-madoc.html
...I think. Holy shit. Where's my box of Nauzene?
Someone give us a summary instead of hand wringing.
What happened?
Unless you really ARE Gaiman. The rabid fury and denial you're putting out here is astounding.
I guess we as a society have to learn to stop putting trust in people just because they're talented. Anyone can have a hidden shitty side.
Rather that being a predator is generally rewarded.