As someone who almost bought a Tesla before Elmo’s Nazi coming out party - I can tell you if US auto makers were to offer Tesla owners an escape, it would be wildly successful.
Polestar is majority owned by Geely, a Chinese company subject to Chinese access to data laws. There is no readily available information on their cloud data residency for North American car buyers.
As someone who has worked in the tech sector for 41 years and currently involved with cybersecurity and smart city tech, I’m pointing out one of the many concerns we need to have about EVs and data privacy.
I’m deeply aware of Tesla’s shortcomings, particularly as run by a charlatan.
My issue is that this then applies to just about every single thing we own.
Idk if I'm explaining it well but, Chinese parts are in anything with a board/chip/transistor etc. Like as a professional with that much experience, 🤷🏻♂️ what can we feasibly do? Bc again, I agree with you.
The small components that don’t have some form of communications modules aren’t a threat. Data getting in or out is the threat; so anything Bluetooth, WiFi, cellular, etc.
The problem with modern cars is companies who want your data or to charge you subscriptions. Which is all of them EV or not.
There are cybersecurity standards established by UL, CSA, NIST, ISO, and other standards organizations that can be tested by independent certified testing organizations.
But nobody has been told that this should be a purchasing decision buying a car.
Are they still doing that deal where you can fly to Sweden to buy your car? If so, how long of a test drive do they let you take? 3.75 years sounds about right.
They must be getting subsidized by their government.
They are giving the credit and the used Tesla will be worthless, between no one wanting them and the market being flooded.
Maybe if the trade in price is low enough, maybe the maga morons can afford them.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm quite over myself. Of course we all buy Chinese goods. There's no option. But buying less, particularly when those products, powered by Chinese government subsidies further threatens jobs in US and Europe is my choice
Went to a political protest meeting a few days ago and one new attendee questioned the value of hurting Musk by protesting at Tesla dealerships and not buying environmentally friendly Teslas. After I and three other attendees educated her on the impact of our actions, I wonder if she was a plant.
We know these clowns don't care about the environment. They want you to be impressed they were able to afford to buy the stupid thing in the first place.
Just a thought... Dems are weakend with the lack of DOJ, police, military, & bi-partisan support; & fighting the best they can with limited resources. Our country is lost with billionaires in power beholden to a King. The only thing remaining is the will of the people & their will to fight. WILL WE?
This also means the second-hand market is flooded with unwanted Teslas, which will tank their resale price and make them even less appealing to buy new.
I'm really looking forward to watching what happens as Elon loses his money. Does a big awkward guy with only his daddy's money and too many children still have access to the Oval Office? (Trick question: Yes, Don Jr can still go into the Oval office😂)
Same, we thought about this car last year when we went to their showroom in Scottsdale. They are absolutely stunning & we are moving back to WA on SJI & decided to wait. Good for them!!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 if we buy electric it would be Polestar.
My heart is breaking for our beautiful country! If you want to do something but aren't comfortable or close to any protests, please don't buy anything on Wednesdays! Make it a regular thing, every Wednesday! You can show up by not showing up! Women have so much economic power, let's use it together
As of early 2025, electric vehicles (including both battery electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids) accounted for approximately 62.8% of new car sales in Sweden. This reflects a slight decrease from 63.1% in December 2023.
Just had the convo with my friend yesterday about selling his Tesla. He’s going through it right now, so the car is the least of his worries but I REALLY hope he hops on this deal. Just sent him the URL. Yes, it is available in the US.
My nephew DIED in his TESLA when it malfunctioned, sped across the road striking trees & immediately combusting. He was incinerated. It took 6 hrs for the fire to be put out & car to cool. Rescue was useless. He was 32 & left behind a young wife & a first baby abt to be born.
DAMN TESLA.
Thank you 🕊️
It's only been 8 months. The family is devastated. He was a bright light and the community loved him. He was a very special person who did so much for others.
Damn Tesla.
This is great - EXCEPT Polestar is majority owned by Chinese Billionaire Li Shufu and his conglomerate Geely. Please don’t spite one billionaire just to help out another people!!!!
Nope. Expensive af like most EVs. However I believe their high cost is due to management still believing they are the performance division of Volvo and that "name recognition" deserve the higher price.
Except unless you follow/love Volvo, no one knows or cares what you used to be. lol
I have a 2013 plug-in that I love! We are considering replacement because our battery is winding down. Not Volvos tho. We looked at a used Volvo station wagon years ago, but my 6’6” husband didn’t fit. 😁
Of course, it must be the Swedes. 😉 "Polestar is a Swedish automotive manufacturer that produces electric cars. Principally owned by Li Shufu's PSD Investment, Geely Holding and Volvo Cars."
I'm not a EV owner but for $67,500 - $500 I'm in once there are more electric charging stations and travel on electric is high.
Polestar 3 SUV
8.1/10 · Ednds MSRP
$67,500
Range
342 mi battery-only
Fastest charge 30 minutes (80% charged)
Electric
power 517 hp
1-speed automatic
Good move Polestar!
Just fyi, Volvo and its subsidiary Polestar are both owned by Chinese company Geely.
China has been pushing its auto companies to go full EV.
Geely may also be doing this as a dig at its Chinese competitor BYD for recently starting to cooperate closely with Tesla.
This is cute but, check out the actual cost of doing this trade, it looks to me to be a very lopsided trade not in my favor. So, nope.
Tesla is a publicly traded company with an asshole as CEO. So, pretty much any US company.
Yes fully agree - I’m based in Europe and have a Polestar 2. Built in China. People in Europe actively turning off Tesla. Hopefully the US can as actively turn off Trump.
It's not just Tesla, though.
Many people, myself included, will avoid buying anything American made as far as is practical.
The US is no longer a friend or ally or a country I want to support.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/06/10/tesla-autopilot-crashes-elon-musk/
Volvo also owns 18% of PS bc PS used to be their performance division.
And they have at least 1 vehicle built in the USA.
But I guess buying Swastikars would be the better option. /s
The biggest problem with Tesla other than being run by a Nazi is if you want to sell it, there aren’t any buyers left.
I’m deeply aware of Tesla’s shortcomings, particularly as run by a charlatan.
My issue is that this then applies to just about every single thing we own.
Idk if I'm explaining it well but, Chinese parts are in anything with a board/chip/transistor etc. Like as a professional with that much experience, 🤷🏻♂️ what can we feasibly do? Bc again, I agree with you.
The problem with modern cars is companies who want your data or to charge you subscriptions. Which is all of them EV or not.
But nobody has been told that this should be a purchasing decision buying a car.
Boycott Tesla!!!
Not sure Polestar has an equivalent international delivery program.
Koeningsegg? Not sure, but they will probably customize anything given the prices for their cars are in a very different league.
They are giving the credit and the used Tesla will be worthless, between no one wanting them and the market being flooded.
Maybe if the trade in price is low enough, maybe the maga morons can afford them.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Regardless, Thank you!!!
Idk how you buy anything bc if it has a computer chip or motherboard, it was made in China or similar.
Parts for BMW which is built in SC come from China. It's assembled in the US.
Get over yourself and just admit you support Elon. Smh lolol effin clowns
https://www.polestar.com/us/offers/new/polestar-3-2025-conquest/
Article in Swedish. (Use google translate on this). They have a factory in the US, so they won't be affected by Trump's tariffs.
The Trump solution? They will simply ban foreign brands from selling on the US market, by banning the technology used in those cars.
The name however😬
Sounds like “pull start”.
Please be true,
Please be true….
Not for me, I don’t own one;
but for him. Let’s continue to “illegally boycott” everything Musk.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Shufu#Political_life
#polestar
This is just smart business decision making, filling in the void left by fools and incompetent cockroaches.
Shit I should invest in Polestar if this is a real thing.
Polestar is owned by Volvocars, Chinese investors, Geelyamong them. And Volvocars also has remarkable Chinese ownership.
Context is always helpful!
https://www.carscoops.com/2025/01/fed-up-with-musks-politics-polestars-ceo-has-some-evs-hed-like-to-sell-you/
Episode 63: Trump Hawks Teslas at White House to Boost Sales (and Musk’s Ego)
Available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and Grassify, the new platform for potheads.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-63-trump-hawks-teslas-at-white-house-to-boost/id1769072538?i=1000698945847
#Trump #Tesla #Musk #DHS
And who gets Vlad and JD in the divorce?
DAMN TESLA.
It's only been 8 months. The family is devastated. He was a bright light and the community loved him. He was a very special person who did so much for others.
Damn Tesla.
It could be another
cash for clunkers
That would get em off the streets in a hurry
Win Win
Shufu is a Chinese billionaire entrepreneur.
Except unless you follow/love Volvo, no one knows or cares what you used to be. lol
Since becoming an electric only company their stock has done terrible as well as sales. How do I know? I own shares.
They should have stuck with performance vs duplicating Volvo.
He’s gonna hit the ketamine extra hard tonight.
The brand worked as a disruptor for those looking for an alternative to fossil fuels.
The auto industry caught up & other brands have better reliability.
CEO’s alignments to white nationalism put a final nail in the coffin.
#TeslaStockCrash
Sweden a terrorist country.
Polestar 3 SUV
8.1/10 · Ednds MSRP
$67,500
Range
342 mi battery-only
Fastest charge 30 minutes (80% charged)
Electric
power 517 hp
1-speed automatic
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy!
Comeuppance!
#divestFromX
#divestFromTesla
#divestFromSpaceX
#divestFromStarlink
Do it Institutionally, baby !
Just fyi, Volvo and its subsidiary Polestar are both owned by Chinese company Geely.
China has been pushing its auto companies to go full EV.
Geely may also be doing this as a dig at its Chinese competitor BYD for recently starting to cooperate closely with Tesla.
I'd say Again, but, Elon has never been poor, so hopefully we can give him a new & novel experience...
can they put up a livestream?
can we buy and then destroy a tesla for charity?
with the a dummy of the president and his first bufu buddy in it?
pay per view?
with celebrities?
Tesla is a publicly traded company with an asshole as CEO. So, pretty much any US company.
Geely also owns Volvo.
And depending which vehicle you get depends on whether or not your car is built in China or SC.
At least it's not supporting the destruction of the country by giving money to an asshole. 🤷🏻♂️
But for financing.
Many people, myself included, will avoid buying anything American made as far as is practical.
The US is no longer a friend or ally or a country I want to support.