the wars being fought just lack the coherent "good vs evil" dichotomy that defines propagandistic cold war ideology and that it seems like it's just fought for the sake of cold-hearted selfishness than any real ideal. So Liquid is taking this to the extreme - if ideology doesn't matter anymore, why - ThreadSky

gorgoe.bsky.social • 67 days ago

the wars being fought just lack the coherent "good vs evil" dichotomy that defines propagandistic cold war ideology and that it seems like it's just fought for the sake of cold-hearted selfishness than any real ideal. So Liquid is taking this to the extreme - if ideology doesn't matter anymore, why

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gorgoe.bsky.social•67 days ago

not just embrace the selfish chaotic nature of war? Why not accept the human tendency towards violence? That is; biologically, just a natural part of human kind is it not? The retort the game has to that is that defining ourselves by this ideological notion is absurd and there is value in ourselves

gorgoe.bsky.social•67 days ago

in the way that has nothing to do with war or ideology. That people's desires are more abstract and personal than seeking value within a flag or siding with the sickle or eagle. After all many characters in the game aren't motivated by ideology but moreso mending the suffering caused by these

gorgoe.bsky.social•67 days ago

ideological conflicts. It wants to paint that people's needs are not as grandiose as these ideologies dictate, and that ultimately, we are more defined by the circumstances we exist in than the genetics that create us. But our genetics allow us to defy these circumstances and ultimate become better.

gorgoe.bsky.social•67 days ago

for it. Where I think Sniper Wolf embodies this is that she clearly has things to live for beyond the Kurdish cause but in spite of whatever nobility her cause has, her fervish devotion to it caused her own death for a cause that ultimately isn't achievable nor actually beneficial to her. She died

gorgoe.bsky.social•67 days ago

for an abstract that was more about self-identifying the ideal of her genetics than it was affirming herself beyond that. And I think this is the overarching thing that MGS1 tries to oppose, that a cause like this is NOT worth dying for if it's truly not achieving anything but self-destruction.

gorgoe.bsky.social•67 days ago

You could perhaps argue this ambivalence towards ideology as some sort of inane "centrism" but I do think that on all levels regardless of what you believe in there is a lot of truth in this about how you understand yourself and the world that you live in, and how you understand others.

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