If voters felt abandoned by Kamala as she sided up with neo Cons like the Cheney dynasty, what option did they have? Also, Kamala was adamantly against stopping the funding of Israel's genocide of Palestinians, and told potential voters to not vote for her if they were against supporting genocide...
"Less genocide." Her and Biden actively funded the genocide, and ignored every red line they said they cared about. If they were actually for less genocide, they could have stopped funding it around Day 2 of active, hot war in Gaza...
If Kamala and Biden didn't want it to get this far, they could have stopped it years ago. They didn't, they have only promised to continue sending more arms to Israel in support of their genocide. How can you claim Kamala was "less genocide" when her and Biden ACTIVELY FUNDED IT.
If Biden wanted to stop the hostilities, he could have done so, Day 1, but stopping the sending of arms that Israel is using for their genocide. It was Biden and Kamala's active, public support and funding of Israel that allows Trump to escalate even further, to wanting "ownership stake".
Why are you ignoring when Kamala and Biden were actually in office and had the power to do exactly like you claimed she would have, if she were elected? What did they do for 4 years, then?
"Less genocide".
Lol. Lmao even.
If you want to get pedantic about it, more blood was spilled under the governance of your team than the other vampire team.
This is, of course, a distinction that arises from your original/dumb distinction of "less genocide".
That's why "you both suck" fits so well
I know you’re trying so hard to come off as a rational individual but holy shit do you sound like an insufferable fucking weirdo. Are you sure you’re not actually a republican? Because you’re fucking WEIRD.
A lot of us did vote for Kamala. She still lost by a fucking landslide. Not even counting 3rd party votes. Turns out full throated support for genocide and a hyping up GOP border crisis delusions doesn't draw people to the polls.
@thecoastalelitist.bsky.social
It really just sounds like you just want any excuse in the world to gloat about brown Muslims being slaughtered by American tax dollars.
Do you have numbers to back up this claim that these people changed the election results or are you just hating on progressives for no reason because CNN told you to?
kamala *should* have differentiated herself in some way from trump, which she never did. What do you think would be happening right now if she was president?
I can tell you: the exact same thing as now, except you would be keeping your mouth shut instead of gloating about it
you smarmy shitheads are the reason this is happening. You required no accountability from your party, told anyone trying to convince the dems to be moral to shut up, that you didn't need us, gleefully wore t-shirts that said "I'm speaking" and called jewish anti-genocide protestors "antisemites"
then 18 million Biden '20 voters did not vote for Harris '24, like we said, and her first-time voter turnout was fucking abysmal, like we said, and you of course looked around and started blaming Palestinian Americans and like 2,000 internet socialists, because you're spineless slime creatures
yeah well they didn't and a key part of Liberalism is supposed to be reckoning with the fact you aren't popular enough to win elections so maybe try doing popular concrete things rather than focus grouped bullshit that hypothetically helps people in 15 years
Why shouldn't Kamala voters have had to vote for de la Cruz? She would've won if you'd voted for her, then we'd have no genocide. Actually organizing was just too hard, so you just want to believe only one of two parties *can* win. That, or you just wanted *some* genocide. As a treat.
I am going to make sure that your milk is always slightly sour, your coffee a touch too acrid, your windshield always a bit too icy-foggy, your knife a touch too dull, your keyboard spacebar a bit too sticky. The next time you're in a coffee shop pay it forward line, it ends right before you.
LOL and Kamala would have fought for Palestinian liberation and turned off the weapons faucet to Israel and would have overturned Citizens United to prevent undue AIPAC influence and would have.....oh wait
The point of the trolley problem is to interrogate the moral culpability of being a bystander vs. a participant. "More death is worse than less death" is an assumption so obvious it's not even part of it.
But both tracks were death as far as the eye could see, and we were nowhere near the lever.
I voted for kamala. You're being a petulant asshole who is clearly very happy about the suffering of gazans because you think it's an epic own against anti electoral 17 year olds. Have some fucking humanity.
there is no such fucking thing as less genocide, there is either genocide or there isn't, what the fuck is wrong with you? do you fucking hear yourself?
If you understand the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Soviet Union to be three genocidal powers, then this is a precisely accurate description of these three powers defeating Nazi Germany. It was good the Allies won, because they were the lesser evil.
What less genocide? Netanyahu was never going to agree to any ceasefire deal Kamala proposed and she committed to never stop sending arms. So the genocide was going to be fully done whether it took longer or not
this isn't a flippant off the cuff word like "brunch". you can have less for brunch, but less genocide simply means a few less families being slaughtered and buried unidentified in mass graves
As if Biden razing Gaza and displacing every single person and killing hundreds of thousands and setting the scene for hundred of thousands more to die of disease and famine doesn't show his hand enough.
But you were clearly okay with SOME genocide. Glad we found out that if both major candidates beheaded babies on live TV and said they would keep doing it that you would still support the baby beheader in blue
that's like talking about smaller infinities. they exist, but are still infinite. less genocide is still genocide and most of us decided that genocide should be a deal breaker. glad to know you're pro genocide, just only certain kinds
Who do you think were more motivated to get off the couch to vote
1) people who do not care about the genocide or foreign policy at all?
2) those who desperately wanted the bloodshed to stop?
3) genocidal freaks who were always going to vote for Netanyahu's buddy?
The lack of much response to USAID being entirely destroyed should tell you 1 is by far the largest group; and acting like 1 piece of foreign policy decided the election doesn't make much sense.
at least you've decided to blame the powerless instead of the second most powerful person in the world who was so blinkered by her bloodlust towards palestinians that she threw the election. good job.
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Glad to know how you devalue life. Fits with both parties.
As much as you want the world to not be that way, those were your options.
Lol. Lmao even.
If you want to get pedantic about it, more blood was spilled under the governance of your team than the other vampire team.
This is, of course, a distinction that arises from your original/dumb distinction of "less genocide".
That's why "you both suck" fits so well
It really just sounds like you just want any excuse in the world to gloat about brown Muslims being slaughtered by American tax dollars.
I can tell you: the exact same thing as now, except you would be keeping your mouth shut instead of gloating about it
The Dems failed to earn votes
The Dems failed
#NotToBeRude
and if I hear you say "tactical slur usage" then you should just waste away somewhere else
Go back to 4Chan to JAQoff with your other sealioning chud buddies, you mediocre fucking hack.
All you shitlibs talk like airheaded bitches and that's exactly what you are. No more intellectual capacity than a meth addled MAGA hick.
Like, what is it about dem voters that lets them compartmentalize how utterly morally degenerate they are
But both tracks were death as far as the eye could see, and we were nowhere near the lever.
Well, it certainly hasn’t got worse has it?
-libs negotiating with Hitler
The correct answer was no genocide.
So, they told us last year, they were all for it, go fuck yourself.
1) people who do not care about the genocide or foreign policy at all?
2) those who desperately wanted the bloodshed to stop?
3) genocidal freaks who were always going to vote for Netanyahu's buddy?
Who did Kamala decide to placate?
if only there was some precedent, of people saying the untermenschen must die, so the Reich might live
and who utterly ate shit in the process