Russia invaded Georgia in 2008. In 2009 Obama wanted reset with Russia. Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. In 2015 Merkel signed the NordStream 2 agreement. Two invasions. Two major appeasements. Obama and Merkel have an outsized responsibility for the situation we are in today. - ThreadSky

andersostlund.bsky.social • 45 days ago

Russia invaded Georgia in 2008. In 2009 Obama wanted reset with Russia.
Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. In 2015 Merkel signed the NordStream 2 agreement.
Two invasions. Two major appeasements.
Obama and Merkel have an outsized responsibility for the situation we are in today.

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jeffreyschmeffrey.bsky.social•45 days ago

Obama's hands were tied because of Bush's idiotic Iraq war (and Afghanistan). No way American public would have supported a confrontation with Russia over Crimea. Americans didn't want more wars

tomskypartizan.bsky.social•44 days ago

tostvedt.bsky.social•45 days ago

And I still wonder why Obama got the Nobel peace price … anybody?

nestingpuffin.bsky.social•45 days ago

I’ve always wondered what Bush would have done.

ehen.bsky.social•45 days ago

😖😖😖

bamboozer2112.bsky.social•45 days ago

Perhaps, but I prefer we try to avoid outright war, even if we would most likely win.

andersostlund.bsky.social•45 days ago

Not sure I understand what you mean. I mentioned two outright wars above. Just because it's not near your house yet doesn't mean it's not war. The whole point is to stop it right away, before it spreads, because it will spread if you don't stop it.

deepsnow.bsky.social•45 days ago

You cannot avoid war with appeasement of Russia. You scream "hit me" with this.

johndalton1108.bsky.social•45 days ago

It was George Bush President that time. He did nothing concrete against Russia. Bush started his presidency by inviting Putin and saying he trusts Putin....Trump in 2016 was staunchly pro Russian...get ur facts right. If Trump was president 2022 he would have let Putin take Ukraine...he says that

tantrano.bsky.social•45 days ago

Yeah… Obama was a bit of a bellend when it came to foreign policy (especially regarding Europe), but then again, most US presidents since Truman have been.

Ironically, Krasnov has inadvertently done more for European security and strategic autonomy than any other in decades.

jasperwelsh.bsky.social•45 days ago

It's what really has built up to Ukraine. They knew they could get away with it. Weak western leadership.

pacientcz.bsky.social•45 days ago

Yes.

charlie5711.bsky.social•45 days ago

Ain’t seen nothing yet. With Trump Putin’s regime will flourish. Under pretext of helping both parties end the war, as soon as elected Trump is expediently helping Putin get out of this mess with a win. Next Trump will remove US troops from NATO bases in in former USSR republics and lift sanctions

charlie5711.bsky.social•45 days ago

Trump is likely to emerge from today’s talks essentially parroting Putin’s terms and conditions and giving credit to Putin for doing « what anyone would do in the same situation ». Soon after he will hold Ukraine responsible for the continuation of the war, end military aid and lift sanctions

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