I guess El Salvador is more powerful than the United States. How embarrassing.
Reposted from Steve Vladeck
Either the U.S. government *is* able to exert monetary and diplomatic pressure on El Salvador sufficient to produce Abrego Garcia’s release, or it isn’t.

The latter would be either a bald-faced lie or a pretty stunning concession of our national impotence. The Vice President should pick one.

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I propose a prisoner swap. We give them Trump and JD Vance for Kilmar.
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Don't forget musk
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Throw in the rest of his cabinet as an el
Salvador prison starter pack
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And everyone else imprisoned there.

Might as well throw in all of the cabinet. It’s not like they’re doing anything beneficial for the US.

Doge too.
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God JD is … 🤦🏾‍♀️
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I mean these fucking geeks. Sure hit the breaks with the dude they said was the leader of MS-13
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Oh, Gomer...

Let's talk Panama, Greenland and Canada!
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They didn't have to invade Romania to get the Tate brothers. They had committed vicious crimes in another country and this one. They would still be here if Andrew Tate hadn't sexually assaulted a woman within days after being ushered into the U.S. like a celebrity chanting "Trump" on the tarmac.
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JD Vance and DJT are impotent....
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Classic straw man argument by Shady JD.
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The classic Republican strawman argument. You love to see it!

How about the guy who won’t shut the fuck up about being a great deal maker, you know, make a fucking deal?
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no, you just tell El Salvador to return him now or you will never send another one again....simple as that
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What a pathetically weak leader of the United States, who calls himself a master deal-maker and then can't get this person back from El Salvador.
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Ah the good ole days, when a certain someone was in the USAF and she knew a forward controller who was all over El Salvador. Old Ronnie R was president. Controller told me some war stories, that he could allow.
So no, weren’t powerful then or now. Baby dictator is a sharp dresser but nothing more.
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Prove he's a gang member.

And if he is, then it wasn't a mistake to steal him out of the Country?

Then, why did you admit in court UNDER OATH that it was a mistake?

Can't have it both ways
(Unless you're trump)
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Well the SC Did make a decision. Follow it
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What nonsense, the USA has a 1yr contract with this jail, the very least they can do is retrieve him after that, to invent a universe where the only way would be war is a master class in bullshit
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I know you don’t like this word JD but it’s not a binary choice.
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At this point, Antarctica is more powerful than Trump's Administration.
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We are a 3rd world country you know.

One day we might be back on top.
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Doesn't usually work that way... But I can't think of a country on top that has willingly shot itself in the dick over and over and over.
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We are currently occupied by russia.

impeach felon 47, aka krasnov.
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We can stop paying and bring them all home. All weren’t afforded due process therefore imprisonment in El Salvador is illegal!!
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Absolutely, you have your right to your day in court.
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…and JD “Smokey Eyes” Vance is the perfect cuck spokesman.
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I’m ready to go. Give me a gun and let’s dance mutherfuckers. El Fucking nowhere would need a new asshole.
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JD Vance is supposed to be so damn smart but he says the most moronic things.
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#Vanceisapussy
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He is despicable.
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JD Vance is a pussy.
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They really stepped in it this time. JFC
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trump is such a weak suck.
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JD Vance is a piece of shit. I read somewhere that he was an intelligent man, he must've traded his IQ for a MAGA cap, ‘cos he really is the rudest,most ignorant,puffed up little man...next to Trump...& RFK...& Patel...& on & on they're all shits.
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Get back to ruining the core memories of young athletes across the country bitch.
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“All Hail the Sagacity and Wise Tutelage of President Banjolele!”
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What an idiot! We are paying El Salvador millions to hold these men. Bukele will comply with our requests. Trump has made him an employee.
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I dunno, "impotence" seems a word that fits quite well with JD Vance.
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👍 ACE.
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JD Vance is an ass - what a stupid, easily-countered response. The US is paying El Salvador to incarcerate people...

Hmmm, but getting the Tate brothers out of Romania didn't involve dealing with a sovereign country?
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This is not an administrative of justice and moral courage but of arrogance and racial animus.

They will do anything to Make America White Again.
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Vance is utilizing a debate technique known as “I will pee on your leg and tell you it’s raining”
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Just rename El Salvador-Greenland. Problem solved.
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Why are we even talking about sovereign Nation status when there is a commercial contract in place.

The US government is paying El Salvador to detain these people.
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Yes. Exactly.
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Well, one option is if he would suggest taking Garcia's place.
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Summed Up! MAGA:
“Cult-like sheep mentality" Where individuals in a group are easily influenced & follow the group's lead, without critical thinking or independent decision-making. To conform, be docile, and resist individual expression, potentially leading to negative outcomes.
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Ok so invading Panama, Canada and Greenland for no reason what so ever is fine but retrieving a US citizen held in illegal custody by a dictator is not?
Are they taking the piss or are they actually that stupid?
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Both.
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Bukele would immediately comply with Trump's wishes. He is surely hoping for more “business deals” with Trump. You only have to look at Wikipedia to see what a corrupt guy Bukele is.
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Geez, Vance, get a damned grip. He is NOT a gang member. He was in the U.S. legally. Y'all kidnapped him and you're paying El Salvador to keep him.
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Let me try that again.. I remember when Bush Sr sent the military into Panama to get Noriega. In and out, one, done, next.
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With a military thats the size of one states National Guard.
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Let’s stop pretending anything this administration says or does is in good faith or earnest.
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No idiot, they want their father back!!!!!!!
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He’s NOT A GANG MEMBER.
He’s a gay hairdresser with a tattoo.
JFC 🤦‍♀️…
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We don’t need opinions from couch fuckers! So shut up JD!
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We're not proposing any invasion, because it's not necessary. The overly-compliant optics of bukele's visit are all we need to see. And of all people, Vance should know it is possible to kiss an idiot's butt while crapping on America.
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BS for sure
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I think JD Vance has some passive aggressive issues.
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He'd invade if it was for a couch
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Might as well just shut the internet down for today, you win.
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I bet he has a sexional sofa
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So much for the America First charades.. Right?
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Slick legerdemain with language there. Clever.....you think you can convince Canada to give up it existence by exerting economic pressure but you can't move El Salvador? This is a totally bad plot line and exposes the weakness of your main character.
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Here's an idea -

How about if trump claws back the $6MILLION we paid to El Salvador to hold those prisoners.

The El Salvador thug president would have Garcia on a plane back to the US within the hour.
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“If you’re wondering why El Salvador, considering we got our own for profit prison bros over here who would jump at the chance to get the gig, what CECOT has going for it is unchecked brutality.”

https://lokiexcelsiorsmith.substack.com/p/american-gulag-4-raging-bull-in-a?r=fd4u4
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I guess he doesn’t know how to read legal documents from the Supreme Court.
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Shut it JD. Shut your pie hole!
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Weird that he characterizes that as an invasion of El Salvador but doesn't use "invasion" when that's exactly what he's suggesting for Canada and Greenland. Someone probably needs to remind him ... again ... that the internet doesn't forget.
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JDs argument is worth of a hillbilly Yale graduate.🙄
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Not once did Trump ask President B to work with him to bring Mr. Garcia home.

What kind of weak President is Trump for not being able to even feel comfortable for asking in person on camera. Guess Trump didn’t want to show how powerless he is.

Where’s the leverage? Ha!
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Right?! I thought Trump was this "great negotiator"... that's what he keeps claiming about his shit tariffs. Both him and Bukele sitting there shrugging their shoulders going "there's nothing we can do" when they both agreed to this arrangment in the first place is beyond fucking infuriating!!!!
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We know that many politicians care about $$ and power. They are playing police with people’s lives.

If there is such a rap sheet, bring it! I’m all for deportation of people that are criminally active or have no respect for our laws, but this is a violation of Constitutional rights. Due Process !!
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Typo… not playing “police” instead “playing politics…”
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Invading El Salvador sounds like something our troops would really get behind right now
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I think Liechtenstein is more powerful than we are, given the current state of things.
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But on the other hand, they want to invade Panama and take back the Panama Canal?

So, are countries sovereign with it's convenient?
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"when" it's convenient 🤦‍♂️
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El Salvador could NEVER have a democratic chosen government without the US intervened...
A small country was completely ruled by US as long as I can remember..and I am OLD!
Now Hell Salvador rules over the weak gov the US have????
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Democratic? The US intervened to PREVENT a left wing alternative to the military dictatorship. I REMEMBER ALL THIS IN THE 70's.
https://www.coffeeordie.com/article/cia-el-salvador
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I think Donnie is trying to make it appear that way.
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If you're really not able to get him back (which everyone with half a brain knows is bullshit), then maybe commit to not send anyone else to El Salvador concentration camps. But we all know you have no intention of doing that either.
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Seriously, everyone should be mocking trump for being a little bitch who’s getting his ass handed to him by a tiny Central American country. Actually, everyone should be mocking trump daily for so many things. He hates that, and he does react to it.
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Any recent large deposits put in Ukele’s personal account?
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It's not a question of control. They have a business agreement with El Salvador to handle these prisoners, they take him back.
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Stfu nimrod
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What the hell does it matter what the Supreme Court says, you fuckwits won’t follow or listen to them any way.

Fucking dumbasses.
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They are digging their heels in even more now because they are toddlers and the more they are told to do something, the less likely they are to do it. Hundreds of thousands of innocent people are going to die and countless families destroyed because if it.
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unserious trump was going to beat north korea, russia, Iran, Hamas?

remember? no more weakness?

big tough guy

"Daddy's home!"

unserious maga is all hat
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ASS~HAT!
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Yes- also, if we are planning to BUY Greenland, why don't we buy RUSSIA?
Why can't they answer this question?🤔
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Vance is more of a gang member than the father & the hair stylist!
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Dear JD
The U.S. is paying El Salvador with tax payer money to detain people. Yes the U.S. can tell El Salvador to send all of them back! Unless the U.S. in fact, human trafficed (slave traded) the people so ElSalvador could force these people to work without pay/be subjected to inhuman treatment
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He is stunningly stupid. And his wife complains about his loneliness.
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I seem to recall them saying El Salvador would be happy to jail them for as long as we pay for it. Seems like a pretty simple solution there.
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Nothing JD just said was in the realm of practical sense and was so full of gas the post should have lit up!
Utter lunatic babble.
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It might be the ethical thing, for trump to make a formal request of the president of El Salvador to release these innocent men. But obviously, he could care less. Heartless
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Vance will be dealt with it won't be pretty.
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Forget dropping the ball.
This guy will forever be known for HE DROPPED THE TROPHY for a reason
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They’re passing the buck like good bureaucrats do.
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Vance, a "good", "pre-Vatican II" "Catholic", demonstrates he understands "compassion" and "truth", not to mention his habitual bullying and , well, you know...
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❤️ the “pre-Vatican ll Catholic” remark
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Not a lot of folks get this kind of reference...These technocrats somehow follow a regressive, outdated version of Catholicism - because it was more conservative and controlling...
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Yes I know! For some reason I wasn’t able to describe to people what was happening in my parish. It started with one Latin mass and than pre Vatican 2 ended up in all the masses. I had to find a new church because I actually like the 2nd Vatican mass
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JD Vance makes Dan Quayle look like a Rhodes Scholar
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When the VP of the country has none of the basics on how government works, you may be in a country failing from a pandemic of stupid.
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James Donald Bowman (that is JD's birth name...stop using his preferred name) is an idiot...

They helped with this...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg4kkv3e1v9o.amp
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Bowman is his birth name? Uh oh. Will he be able to vote if the save act passed??🤪
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I am sure the Madam VP will find a way to get her paperwork in order.
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He is trying to do to our Democracy what he did to the Ohio state trophy
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Fuck Vance
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El Salvador is the size of Massachusetts. It will do whatever the President of the United States tells it to do. Garcia would be back home in a few hours if the U.S. told them to put him on a plane. If the judge brought Miller into court and questioned him, he could lock him up for lying.
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Could we just gift him Cosplay Kristi's Rolex?
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Isn't Trump paying them? I mean, "The Art of the Deal" guy just has to do a beautiful deal with El Salvador. Right?
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Calm down drama queen. His histrionics are sad, obsequious and Trump still won’t make JD heir apparent.
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This Thread over at the other place is fucking scary...

https://x.com/YourAnonCentral/status/1912091574223421458
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David Frum kept calling El Salvador "our only ally."

He was being facetious, sort of, but like...not fully.
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But I don't understand even weighing in on these kinds of specious disputes. If your action is not undo-able, then you have to stop doing it. Why isn't that the result?
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JD should read the Constitution. He’s an embarrassment.
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He really is!
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Given we’re paying El Salvador to incarcerate, torture and kill these people, we can readily ask for them back. The problem is anyone who comes back alive will tell of the horrors of where America sent them. So nobody will ever come out alive until 47 is out of office.
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He wasn't supposed to be sent there at all by a court order, dick weed!
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J D Vance is Trump’s alter ego
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JD must be conveniently forgetting that the US government already admitted they made a mistake having him deported to El Salvador. Convenient.
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a. strawman argument.

b. fallacy of the false alternative.
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JD Vance is one vile piece of shit
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Vance is twisting this to serve his purpose of not getting him back. He is a full of shit deceiving liar!
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He must think we're all as gullible as he is.☹️
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So here we are. The leader of what was previously known as the free world is no longer able to negotiate with a 3rd world country. That 3rd world president also disrespected the US president with his #casual #attire.

And he didn't say #thankyou.
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It’s simple to get the gentleman back, really simple.
If everybody started stating that Obama or Biden could get him back and it trended, man-Child Trump will get him back.
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JD Vance! That goes for your immigrant wife too you asshole! Fk you, you couch Fker! 💩🤡🤮😡
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Their ugliness should be illegal, they both have immigrant wives, the irony!!! Do I have to marry an old rich white republican to stay here?(joking, I’d rather eat shit)
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I hear you 😱✊👏
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I thought we were supposed to be "great again". Instead we are a bunch of weenies afraid to stand up to El Salvador. trump is just a bigly coward.
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The comment was simply disingenuous, typical of what we can expect of VP JD.
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To Vance, and all of DrumpfLand:
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What an idiot he is. Trump talks all the time about how powerful the United States is. Use some of that power to get this guy back. It doesn’t require an invasion.
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I had understood that we are PAYING El Salvador to take and house these people, so we certainly could say we want them back- or stop paying them!
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The part that says facilitate?
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The amount of lying taking place becasue of this single instance is evidence enough to impeach much of the entire administration.
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Oh I’m pretty sure you’re just aching to invade somewhere. And by the way the part of the Supreme Court that says you have to get this person out is the part that says you still haven’t proven he’s a gang member. F— off, JD, you’re a disgrace and we all see it.
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JD is more guilty...
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And even their Pres is neutered. Or - they all are admitting they don’t have the power to bring someone back from the dead.
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They have no problem talking about invading Greenland or taking over Canada or Panama and now they’re afraid of El Salvador?!?
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He doesn't have the balls to pick one.
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All lies all the time.
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El Salvador is being paid what, $20k per prisoner? Has this monetary payment gone to Congress for approval?
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They could have him on a plane back with one phone call. They’re lying, as always.
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Hey Dan Quayle wannabe, or couchfucker whichever he prefers:

The 9-0 ruling says that.

I hate them so much right now.
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Vance is really a POS. Stephen Miller with eyeliner and a better smirk.
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We’re number Two!!
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Is JD Vance deliberately exaggerating both the remedy for release of Garcia and his crime(s)? How professional! That's the embarrassment.
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Just how many 🍊 bitcoins did the Pres of ES buy for this kind of political shielding?
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Or... hear me out... ask nicely?
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JD Vance is so messed up. He is a joke and no one likes him. He insults everybody and that makes him a weak bully. I hope he goes to jail someday.
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I think a world class negotiator could get this done in a phone call.
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This administration had no right to deport this man in the first place - That is the problem and the fact, this administration admitted fault in detaining Mr Garcia -
Get your facts right Vance, you are a complete joke -
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What about the Vice President operating on the fallacy of him being a gang member.

I can claim I can fly, doesn’t make it true.
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El Salvador released eight FEMALE prisoners back to the United States.

If they can release women, why can't they release a MAN?
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No, we’re suggesting you fucking ASK that he be returned. In good faith. And not just him. You pathetic excuse of a man.
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The Supreme Court upheld the lower court decision to provide due process to the abducted person. That’s where.
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Oh. Under Trump, America has been weakened
bigly. Weak next to Russia
Weak next to China
Weak weak weak next to El Salvador (a country that’s the size of Massachusetts with a crazy high poverty/extreme poverty rate)
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"Wait till we get our Hanes on you."
#BoycottHanes
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"How embarrassing" that they truly believe ALL Americans can't tell when they spew outright lies in our faces. It'd be almost comical if it weren't so sad.
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I’m generally not a violent person but Vance really has such a punchable face
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You won't mind the mascara smears?
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I think the satisfaction would be worth it
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Can I be next in line?
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Absolutely
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🥰
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Not a gang member.

Three weeks ago they were threatening Greenland.

They can’t even lie properly.

Because they don’t give a shit enough to even try.

Fuck these morons.
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He’s not a gang member. Facts mean nothing to these beings.
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This feigned "helplessness" kind of reminds me how we couldn't stop a genocide done by a country we were paying, helping, advising, and collaborating with to do a genocide.
Funny how we have less of a leg to stand on when the shoe is on the other foot. Either way, we have work to do.
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Just a guess... But I'm figuring there's money changing hands and that's why they won't do anything.
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Made Donald Trump look like a weak old fool.
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Not difficult. He does it himself daily.
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But the Tate brothers can be negotiated out of their charges of human trafficking and flown to the United States, yet it's okay. Logic isn't their strong suit.
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Dear Mr. Vance,

Please consider the following:
1. Ask for KAG return, and wait for El Salvadorian response.
2. Should the response be negative, find a way to bring him back.
3. If the response be in the affirmative, bring him back and try him in an American court.
4. Don't forget to say "Thank you"
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To be fair, nobody in their government ever looked at a couch and thought “ I think I’ll f*ck this”
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Ignoring the Supreme Court's unanimous ruling just like a good little dictator's puppet.
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It’s time to CHANGE YOUR UNDIES! Boycott El Salvadoran-made Hanes and Fruit of the Loom until ALL American ‘exports’ are released from CECOT and afforded due process and basic human rights!
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It requires you to give due process to ANYONE living legally in the US. He is not a criminal or gang member. Ukraine DID NOT start the war and you are by far one of the worst humans on the planet. Stop lying you POS.
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I didn’t realize that El Salvador was more powerful that man the U.S. That it could turn down any request from the weak U.S. president.
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The Trump Administration's agreement with Bukele explicitly states that they have control of the disposition of those prisoners they're paying El Salvador to house. Judge Xinis quoted the deal in a footnote in today's order. She ain't playing DOJ's feigned helplessness game.
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Awesome
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Where can I find a copy? Why aren’t journalists reporting on the agreement and asking questions about our rights under it?
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@periodictweet.bsky.social
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The AP apparently has a copy of the agreement (memo) and has quoted from it, but not published it yet, maybe because its source won’t allow. Plaintiffs are surely going to seek it in the discovery that was just permitted.
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Thanks. And thanks for your posts. Yours is the kind of account I come here for
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Prove he is a gang member in the first place dip 💩

People, turn the criticism back on them. No suggestions. No remedies, demand them to answer themselves.

(Sorry, just ranting at myself haha)
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the bowman boy has not had his vacuous head shoved down a toilet often enough, or long enough.. this fucking worthless inhuman monster can pound cushion...
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Are we not not at a lawsuit for defamation

I hope some attorney , has a little fight in them and picks up a defamation suit while the fight for his return is being had
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"... from the written agreement with El Salvador that's been released by The Associated Press, because they obtained part of the agreement, which says that they'll be held in, held in CECOT, quote, 'pending the United States decision on their long-term disposition,' end quote."
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We placed 145% tariffs on one nuclear armed nation and severe economic sanctions on another.
But El Salvador is too powerful, a bridge too far 🤡
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That man is not a gang member. He was arrested because he is not white Anglo! If I were you I would start to worry about my family since they also are not Anglo white! If the old racist ball gets rolling thanks to all of you in government, then you cannot protect your family. Is that OK?
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Asshole Vance
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No due process and none of you are to be trusted!
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And that orange rapey guy is a lousy deal maker, despite all of his claims otherwise.
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He's dead, thats explains the resistance to bring him back.
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Both of the dictators just yesterday said they had no power to do anything about this. Weaklings.
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JD Vance blatantly exclaiming that THIS VP of the United States is willing to LIE WITH GREAT ABANDON.
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We really need some JDV memes on this thread. He's such a ridiculous tool
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Vance is a joke
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You would think Vance had graduated from the PlaySkool school of law 🤷‍♀️
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He did... Yale
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😝🤪😜
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So much for "He who is so respected and powerful".
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I’ll propose jailing everyone involved with these constitutional violations.
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With how they're treating Greenland, invading other countries doesn't seem to be an issue.
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Haven't any intent to obey the Court!
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There will be no D-Day for us
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They got the rapist Tate brothers free from a Bulgarian dungeon to vacation in Miami 🤷🏾‍♂️
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I read it, and they seem to have a better grip of this situation than you do, Mr Vance.
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Why yes JD we are. Y’all put him there. Send Seal Team 6 if need be.
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Trump could pick up the phone and have Abrego Garcia on the next plane back to the US. No intervention necessary.
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JD Vance is lacking in imagination, and all other human attributes that would make him interesting.
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Well, we don't spend much on the military, so I can see it.
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We haven’t even bothered asking!!
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We wouldn’t need to invade nor does El Salvador’s need to smuggle him I . This is ludicrous- we just say, bring him back or admit he’s dead.
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I mean they want to invade Panama and Greenland… what’s one more?

WHAT A FUCKING JOKE.
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The Supreme Court should just turn in their robes and find themselves other jobs. They are now irrelevant. 😡
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MAGA’s aim for El Salvador is an attempt to accomplish the Madagascar Plan that the Nazis considered before they implemented the ‘Final Solution.’ They borrowed an evil idea from the Nazis and are trying to perfect it. They must be stopped.
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Maybe if we promise Vance a nice new couch to f*ck it'll motivate him.
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Oh so NOW he respects a nation’s sovereignty. 🙄
🇨🇦🇬🇱🇨🇦🇬🇱 🇨🇦🇬🇱 🇨🇦🇬🇱
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Touché 👌🫶🙌🙏👍🏻
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Ikr
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You want to invade Panama and Greenland, couch fucker.
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What a bunch of cowards and liars.
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There is no real evidence that Abrego Garcia is a member of MS-13, but even if that were true.... terrorist gang members, including those from MS-13, are extradited to the United States from foreign countries for trial... ALL. THE. FUCKING. TIME.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/alleged-international-leader-ms-13-extradited-rico-charge
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You talk about invading several countries. So...this argument makes no sense.
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Gaslighting, they think we are all stupid.
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