Why are you still a republican?!
For Christ's sake, you just articulated clearly your own argument against being a repugnicant and can't figure it out??
I hope y'all can keep up the good fight. Me though? I think it's time to shift to state government in a Western state... Seems like a safer and more secure (both job security and personal) to be.
There is no deal that can be trusted when it is offered by the Orange. You can't trust him but you can trust he will renege. It is his way. The offer maybe tempting…but his track record does not show completion. The deal is interrupted. #DontObeyInAdvance
Is this in regards to the memo all federal employees got? I have a daughter who works for the government and got this memo. Our initial thoughts are DON'T DO IT!
As of a short time ago the employees have still not heard from their union (I know some of the Unions have made statements but not hers). I still wouldn't trust whatever the Union advises because I have no doubt that they are being threatened to encourage resignations.
Many agencies are facing scenarios where roles within the org will be sched. F, political appointees. Think about that as you decide. If you aren’t working for an appointee you’ll likely be replaced by one. Also, it’s NOT a payout. It’s “resign now and you don’t have to work in-office until Sept.”
In addition, tell your reps in DC what you think. Resist. It only takes a few minutes and best of all..it doesn’t cost any money.
We don’t need money in politics. We just need people to participate.
Trump owns Supreme Court judges. His MO is to keep us tied up in court for years, and if we win and are awarded relief and fees, there is no way to collect them. Look at Alex Jones, still raking in the dough and hasn’t yet paid one dime to his victims that I know of.
I am getting the impression you all are under an intense and dangerous amount of pressure. If there is anything more we, your supporters, can do to help, please let us know.
I'm not going anywhere. My job is important to me, but it's more important to the people it helps. I swore under oath to faithfully execute my duties and defend this country against all enemies foreign and domestic. I take that oath seriously. 💙💪❤️
People are on edge and nervous about the uncertainty. A lot of the old timers that I'm speaking with that are close to retirement are thinking about taking the offer, but I told them not to leave.
This is absolutely 10000000% by design.
They're going to force people out and work will stall.
No, it’s designed to get you to resign, thinking it will be in September, but will be accepted as immediate based on your desire to resign. It’s a “bait” offer, just like the ones Musk presented to Twitter staff. Spoiler, they never got paid.
Oh for sure! I was just clarifying it isn't a severance like the were thinking. Everything this administration does is a bait and switch that only helps them, not anyone else.
I am one of these people. The thing that is required for me to stay is for my immediate leadership to be on board with resisting these ridiculous orders . These policies will destroy our department of defense and all other agencies.
I would imagine that the reason this awful offer was not extended to Postal workers is because it is the bastard stepchild of the government & they couldn't.
Biden stupidly left DeJoy in place so that he can now help tRUMP split up and sell off PO as rewards to his corporate donors. GOP wet dream.
The United States Postmaster General has a Commission that is in charge of them. At least under a Democracy. But it seems Google has already begun to bend a knee to the Felon-in-Chief and has misinformation on their platform already.
Make them fire you so you qualify for unemployment. Not to mention, OPM doesn't have standing to do this nor the funding. Congress holds the purse strings, not OPM.
Are you talking with any of the unions that represent federal workers? They have lawyers and those lawyers have gone to court in behalf of federal workers, sometimes as a whole but also individuals too.
1) The White House does not hold the power of the purse and cannot promise buyouts that haven't been appropriated by Congress.
2) Everything Trump does is bait-and-switch. You think you're really going to get 7 months pay for not showing up? Step back and see how Trump has treated his contractors.
This. The grifter is trying to freeze even things Congress DID authorize money for, and is having to be sued to stop him. There is no way in hell the purse gets opened for something they did not authorize.
Also, has a well-known history of not paying his bills and lying, why would he change now.
I got both of the “reply yes” emails. I’ll know in an hour or so if I got the latest. Unfortunately I know quite a few lower level federal employees who probably will take this bait, not realizing that the US economy doesn’t currently have enough jobs to absorb a mass federal resignation surge.
Well if you know them talk to them!! Make it known everywhere you go. We need our federal workers. Praying for you guys. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Someone needs to get rid of the entire administration. We need a revolution and a new election cus voter suppression was at the core of this one.
Shows you’re a normal human being. We now have to turn our devestation and shock into constructive action. Dictators rely on keeping us in a state of outraged disbelief. It’s their standard operating procedure.
You should be, because it'll be hardliners and Trump followers that piss on DEI. Resistance is important here from the people to block and frustrate their plans at EVERY corner of EVERY road.
The government is powerless without the people doing what they want. They'll notice soon enough.
I a da sis the same thing he’s hot to have congresses approval to do any kind of purchase of void retirement time. I was in the Air Force when they did a draw down of military after Bosnia. They’d have to pay out the time served. He cannot just change what the money was allocated for either!
It’s NOT a buyout!
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IT’S A SCAM!
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There’s👏🏻NO👏🏻severance👏🏻package!👏🏻
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You CAN’T even get unemployment if you’re fool enough to sign!
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#DonTheCon is just trying to scam you into signing a promise to quit on Sept 30th!
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That’s it! That’s all it is!
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You still have to keep working from home til then!
I would resign if I were a vested fed wkr. Then I could work where I wasn't mocked daily, etc. Been in local govt bef and don't know if people realize the shortage of help and resources and the anger vented toward public employees. It's not the cushy work, pencil pushing work that is claimed.
Pols gain votes if they keep costs down so some jurisdictions work with super outdated software/equipment, etc. They eliminate headcount for seemingly no reason at times,.. and then the workers hear the constant complaints about how long they were in line or on hold.
I'm not a lawyer so take this w/a grain of salt but if you just ignore the email and continue forward as usual, if they fire you, you get unemployment.
These people will likely NEVER pay anyone money but if you take the "buy out" you might not be able to get unemployment either.
Pretty sure you put ‘I resign’ in an email that means immediate termination. The email is not a legal document and they are not obligated to follow anything in it. And did you see the opm q&a? It’s wild
I wonder what the job abandonment clause says. Because if you resign, effective immediately. Zero recourse, zero unemployment. Class actions take years and will be in hostile court systems,
That's why I say, just pretend you never read the email. No answer. Make them talk to you directly. Then say you want a formal letter that you've been FIRED. And the reasons, etc. I bet there's a long process for that.
Yep. The only benefit is you get to continue working remote. If RTO is feasible you'd be better off just continuing as normal and then giving two weeks notice Sept 15 to keep your options open until that time.
Same. Get fired first. Then you get unemployment. And eventually, when these Nazis are out of power and in jail, you get a nice note on your resume that you stood up to a shitass dictator dirtbag lying rapist.
The Constitution that codified private property, and therefore the exploitation of working people? The billionaires our politicians serve because corruption is legal here?
Ah. So you're saying you think it's fine if there's no resistance to this overthrow of our country, because....principles . . . er. . . something something because corruption something something. . .
It concerns me greatly that they hit ahold of our emails so easily for this scam.. we are trained in cybersecurity and this whole mess is a breach of that. Any emails I get from those MFs I’m replying and reporting as SPAM. Fuck them
I’m saying that they SHOULDN’T have done that. Isn’t that illegal, or at least against protocol or something? And I found her name…Amanda Scales. She worked for Elonia (xAI). Now she’s OPM (Office of Personnel Management’s) new chief of staff 😳
Yes, slow down the train and it might never get to its destination. Besides, why would anyone trust Trump to follow his word? He stiffs people all the time… hell, he’s doing it now by not paying on grants.
Germany here: Go out on the Streets contact Newspapers and TV stations. Let the public know whats going on. Dont be silent. Be loud! Smokey the Bear says RESIST!
Not when he threatened to use the military against peaceful protests and to declare martial law. That’s why the women had their marches two days before he took office to be safe. He’s crazy enough to drop a bomb in the midst of a protest.
A bill has been introduced that if it passes, it would make protesting an act of domestic terrorism. It is targeted at antifa, but uses very broad language so that it applies to anyone arrested at a demonstration that they deem affiliated or with a group that they deem affiliated.
I'm an American, I feel like I owe YOU (and the entire world) a bigger apology for the millions of AMERICAN IDIOTS who voted for a Fascist!
Just remember, more American's voted AGAINST him than FOR him. He just had more votes than Harris.
Worse— there is no promise of pay! They offer is simply “if you resign now you’ll be exempt from return-to-office until your resignation date in Sept. Maybe you’ll be put on admin. leave, maybe not. It can’t even be called severance. Read the letter at OBM. Media is doing a horrible job at coverage
No promise of payment. I received the email, says we would still work (maybe admin leave?) until 09/30/2025. Only “benefit” is you can keep telework. Also say our standards will change and we need to show loyalty and it says most of us will change to at will employment.
"As of today, the plaintiffs in these cases have not sought an immediate injunction against the policy, perhaps because it has not yet been implemented at the agency level."
Other agencies were subjected to this in 2016. It was brutal with the support of EEO and support. Got to create the support on the outside being taken away on the inside, to pursue not quitting. Need to problem solve that somehow so they can have a foundation to stand on in the fight.
Congressman was called during this time and they were unable to assist. Create a task force for each state that incidents of harassment can be reported to for the fight back. When the person calls they will be in EXTREME duress. Team needs therapist on it too!
Whole units were exposed to this and in the fight. Co workers turned against coworkers. Some had family and friends targeted that also worked there as leverage to make them become predatory. Sexual harassment, racial harassment. Severe! Reviews were supposed to be random. They were NOT.
Create a template for guidance on good documenting. Majority will be too overwhelmed to think that through. Template will have date, time, names of people involved where and description of incident to give to the team.
Predatory managers will be put in place, triggering people with issues. It does not matter if you are crying, shutting down. Pick that pen up, type that text right that email with the above information document document document!!! It may not help now, but it will be there to help down the line!
They have to feed their family and protect their mental health from extreme predatory harassment. There will not be money for counsel. Because there will not be a job.
Our dedicated government workers are one of the most important patriotic groups for resisting the fascist and autocratic Trump Administration. We are with you and support you!
It’s heartening to see people supporting gov workers. Last go round people had the pitchforks out and were like ‘if we get treated like crap at work everyone should! Down with the overpaid lazy Feds!’
Musk did the email thing at 🐦
Many received nothing but class action suit.
Resigning from Fed job requires several steps to maintain and receive appropriate accrued benefits.
Congress has not approved funding for RIF(reduction in force)
Don’t resign. The money offer is probably a sham. When has Trump ever paid up? He has no budget to fund paying you off. He will take your resignation, send you home and hire incompetent, uncaring sycophants in your place or no one at all. Don’t resign.
And if they resign, they will be part of the MAGA regime indirectly directly. No worker comp, no health care, no work. You will be blackball once U resign.
The reason why the lying incompetent convicted felon want all federal government employees to retire is because he wants to get rid of the federal govt. altogether. The sad & unfortunate thing is that many gullible, misinformed employees will fall for the okie doke.
I don’t understand where the money he’s promising them is coming from. Doesn’t that require some kind of action on Congress‘s part to make all these funds available? Please explain how he’s claiming he can offer them eight months severance.
5 reasons not to accept: 1. No guarantee that you won't have to work prior to 9/30. 2. Only 10 days of paid admin leave are allowed by law (5 usc 6329a).
3. You need agency permission to hold an "outside position.” 4. CR expires March 14. 5. What is a “deferred resignation" - it's made up shit.
Email apparently is from Musk- a very close copy of the one he sent to Twitter employees in 2022! Per fed Reddit. They lost $500 mil in severance Musk refused to pay
I am a Baltimore native living in NC. Ick I know. I miss home so bad . They call me a Yankee. I call them traitors and then run. Baltimore never gives up .
Seems like EM and the current president are so excited to fire people they forget that means work doesn’t get done. They are operating on an assumption that those employees aren’t actually performing public services, when they are.
Democratic strategist Keith Edwards wrote this guide for federal employees—it has suggestions for how they can slow walk and even stop the Trump administration agenda from being implemented. Please share it!
And because federal employees performing below expectations is one of the statements in their argument for reducing the workforce and they use that in their criticism when promoting their plan to to the public.
It's much harder to fire civil servants than workers in the private sector. That doesn't mean they won't try, but they'll probably end up in court like all his other lame brain EOs.
Not suggesting that. But if you don’t perform your job and meet expectations they (the muskies) have indicated they will try to dismiss you. In that case they win.
The first duty of federal employees is to the Constitution. Allegiance to the Constitution is allegiance to the people of the United States. That is paramount.
Any time someone asks you to do something that violates the Constitution, they are asking you to violate the law.
Also your agency can just let you go early. It's like giving your 2 weeks notice and they tell you to walk now. You don't get paid for those two weeks.
This is a ploy to get people to resign so they can boot them. Also, congress can boot in March by cutting funding.
If you are thinking of resigning, you do not want to do it by responding to an email! You need to go HR and get the terms of your buyout in writing before you actually resign. And by in writing, I don't mean sketchy emails.
I can understand why people suddenly at risk would be angry enough about trump terrorism to go for the "buyout," & try to find a new job. I hope a large majority of them will strenuously resist Project 2025 ignorance-based turmoil. Don't forget: Republicans create recessions. Unemployment will rise.
Help me understand that he shouts an illegal directive & people STOP PAYING? They don’t go to work - they follow these illegal orders WHY? How can things shut down? Help me understand- … help me understand that this judge blocking is ONLY for a few hours.
NO ONE CAN HELP YOU. Not one person truly knows what happens next. Not even Trump. The events of the past week have not been experienced before. Trump doesn't even know what he can get away with. He has a plan and supporters that do his will. The tide may turn against him and soon. WAIT!
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After they take my job? After they take my home? Or
After they take my healthcare?
For Christ's sake, you just articulated clearly your own argument against being a repugnicant and can't figure it out??
But we all know someone asking similar questions!
Source??
who?!!!
So proud of the Hold the Line messengers. I felt... hopeful?
We don’t need money in politics. We just need people to participate.
https://www.nationalfinancialplan.com
This is absolutely 10000000% by design.
They're going to force people out and work will stall.
The Federal Labor Relations Board is the correct agency for federal employees.
https://youtu.be/krcTQE46bPk?si=95A2pscbUKAibkfQ
Make them fire you and demand due process.
Sincerely,
A daughter of a Veterans Administration Civil Servant
#Hold #Stay #Remain #Serve
Fun fact. There are employees who took that deal that are STILL suing to get the money that was promised.
Biden stupidly left DeJoy in place so that he can now help tRUMP split up and sell off PO as rewards to his corporate donors. GOP wet dream.
Stay. Fight. Please.
2) Everything Trump does is bait-and-switch. You think you're really going to get 7 months pay for not showing up? Step back and see how Trump has treated his contractors.
Also, has a well-known history of not paying his bills and lying, why would he change now.
They're should be like community legal advice.
Twitter employees got screwed over by accepting.
A few of those attorneys try to keep the public informed. https://www.democracydocket.com/
The government is powerless without the people doing what they want. They'll notice soon enough.
and need to control the narrative!
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You CAN’T even get unemployment if you’re fool enough to sign!
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#DonTheCon is just trying to scam you into signing a promise to quit on Sept 30th!
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That’s it! That’s all it is!
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You still have to keep working from home til then!
These people will likely NEVER pay anyone money but if you take the "buy out" you might not be able to get unemployment either.
Prob be fired when I file my reasonable accommodations so I may need some legal then
Fuck themselves
It thinks it has it, thank-you Blue Sky💙
https://electionlawblog.org/?p=132594
When the press asks, blame Trump.
Hold the line! Fed Employees are the last line of defense against these fascists.
https://youtu.be/5RpPTRcz1no?si=AQfMpmazvEVnexLj
https://www.taosnews.com/magazines/leyendas-tradiciones/the-real-true-story-of-smokey-bear/article_a7d19bd1-72d4-54e2-b01d-09a77e35f0c4.html
Just remember, more American's voted AGAINST him than FOR him. He just had more votes than Harris.
BUT LIES
Implement only the law under the constitution.
Know your rights.
Know your due processes.
Showing them some of these conversations may help. The administration is going to try to create an impression that everyone else quit or obeyed.
You're clearly in good company when you hold out. And as a random citizen, thank you!
https://www.reddit.com/r/fednews/comments/1icy4vf/a_few_points_to_keep_in_mind_as_you_consider_the/
Non-violent Resistance:
https://www.aeinstein.org/198-methods-of-nonviolent-action
Congressional Switchboard: 202-224-3121
"As of today, the plaintiffs in these cases have not sought an immediate injunction against the policy, perhaps because it has not yet been implemented at the agency level."
https://federalworkerrights.com/2025/01/20/schedule-f-what-federal-employees-need-to-know/
Many received nothing but class action suit.
Resigning from Fed job requires several steps to maintain and receive appropriate accrued benefits.
Congress has not approved funding for RIF(reduction in force)
IT'S A COUP
STOP THE COUP
STOP THE COUP
https://commonslibrary.org/10-things-you-need-to-know-to-stop-a-coup/
Trump & Elmo will renege on the deal & you will be jobless & penniless!!
Make it harder for them to oust anyone!!
Suppose someone put a $100 bill in your hand and said you could either take it OR a Trump promise to give you $10K.
Would you take the $100 or the promise?
They have to work for those 8 months but they can do it from home.
https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/trump-administration-hit-with-another-lawsuit-over-schedule-f-order/
https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/trump-administration-hit-with-another-lawsuit-over-schedule-f-order/
Seriously, I thought it had to be dozens.
3. You need agency permission to hold an "outside position.” 4. CR expires March 14. 5. What is a “deferred resignation" - it's made up shit.
Anyone resigning is going to get stiffed worse than a Trump Tower plumbing contractor.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tim-kaine-trump-federal-workers-buyout_n_6799a2bfe4b09dcf5694ef54
they are throwing smoke screens
I have never been more proud of this weird, fucked up city I chose to be my home.
https://keithedwards.substack.com/p/delay-leak-disobey-how-to-counter?utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
Resistance is the point—or are you suggesting just rolling over and letting them destroy our democracy?
Any time someone asks you to do something that violates the Constitution, they are asking you to violate the law.
Sure we wish we had the majority, or a functioning supreme Court, or a semi sane president. But you can't have everything.
Use what you have, and maybe we can have some of those things next election.
This is a ploy to get people to resign so they can boot them. Also, congress can boot in March by cutting funding.
¡RESISTENCIA, CARAJO!
If they have some ability to pay, they can look into a consultation to get advice. This won't cost as much as a lawsuit - not remotely close.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fednews/s/hCCWu2lZyh
https://youtu.be/wqWBM5Zs6YI?si=xFts5LgE96-BwGnD
https://www.justice.gov/eoir/list-pro-bono-legal-service-providers