Hunter would have been locked up for years. You don’t need to look far for an example, Reality Winner was kept locked up in solitary confinement for 5 years. For trying to warn Americans of trumps dealing with foreign countries.
It is who some of us are, and some are not. Politics and democracy are about persuading the “other side” that your side will do a better job of governing. Let’s get to it!
Right, the party of family values shields predator politicians and parish, while threatening to fracture families with deportation. Pearl clutching all the way to their lost-cause v2.0.
They label anyone who disagrees as a pedophile, using derogatory slang to dehumanize. They spread hate and malice on any platform at any time...they actively seek out a chance to be hurtful. Meanwhile, still paint us (anyone who disagrees)as the "bad guys." They threaten to kill us for our voices.
Biden said he wouldn't pardon Hunter before he saw who #Day1Dictator is putting in charge of law enforcement, and the plea agreement was thrown out after hounding by House MAGAs. I'm sure that if he hadn't, Hunter would be facing the worst facilities and worst treatment in the Federal system.
The GOP and Trumpers are going crazy over this and how they forget that The Man in orange pardoned many more and wait till January 20th more pardons to follow. If the Dems want to talk with a whisper they will gain nothing
It is ridiculous how this am cnn is focusing on “but, but Biden said he would never pardon Hunter which is going to tarnish his legacy”. Gimme a break! 🙄. Proud of President Biden for doing this.
Same is true of MSNBC! They are all so used to the two different moral standards that they just continue to perpetuate them! It’s as if they had found piles of classified documents in Huner’s basement!
Had this been Trump doing it, there might be a few gripes from the Dems, and then nothing!
It's crazy when you click one profile, and are baffled they have so many followers of hate. I'm not talking about Republicans I mean dangerous hate fueled propaganda. I then use their followers list as a block list.
I'm nearly 40, with grown kids, and most people don't watch TV news much anymore. As a writer, I seek tv/social for balance, but real people's views online often provide better accuracy and insight than TV reporters. Most of my day that's not working is spent here reading individuals viewpoints.
It is a crime where no one care. From what was said, no one get jail time for it. At most, you pay a fine. The only reason he get it was because I am sure Trump have something to do with it because it Biden son. Political prosecution at it finest. I hope Biden Investigate it.
I don't think the issue is Hunter being pardoned as much as it is the hypocrisy of Biden's incessant hang-wringing that he can't act on behalf of anyone else, like marijuana offenses or the innocent on death row.
We care about principles very much. Given all the🐂💩the right 🤮EVERYDAY. We’re loosening our principles enough to give one to the Gipper. No one deserves it more than Hunter.
Letting his son rot? He hadn't been sentanced yet and given his status would have most likely avioded jail time. He pleaded guilty to charges of a scheme to avoid paying at least $1.4m in taxes while there are people actually "rotting" in jail for stealing baby food. The whole thing stinks.
If I was Hunter I'd stay off US soil for a while, because Trump's flunkies might be able to dig up something else they can call a crime. Something vague like money laundering perhaps. They wouldn't do this because Hunter matters, but just for kicks.
It gives Republicans easy to work with criticisms and lines of attack against Democrats. They will use their large mediums of lies to spread misinformation to the uninformed public.
That's why I wish Biden didn't do this. because Republicans will be hypocrites and most people will believe them
Republicans make up criticism all the time. This is the right thing to do regardless of them crying about it. I’m tired of babying them while they destroy the country.
Which leads me to sense that there's something else possibly really big and unexpected that Dark Brandon is gonna hit Trump with...
something Trump may not recover from.
In post-norm America, Democrats must fight real politics with real politics. The age of good-faith opposition died with Merrick Garland's Supreme Court nomination.
Agreed! I was still a conservative back then, but I found it utterly partisan and disgusting when the GOP blocked his nomination on the grounds that the next president should decide. I'm no longer a conservative. In great part because of the direction they've gone in over the past 15 years.
How many children is each family supposed to sacrifice to American politics, anyway? Joe and Jill have already sacrificed one son. That seems like enough.
I fully back President Biden. Name one other person in the public eye that was prosecuted on a gun related charge. I'm proud of my president. His legacy is in full tact with any sane person.
Yep. The norms, rules, and institutions are gone. Hell, I still think the country itself is gone. MAGA can only blame itself and it won't like the future if the Left finally finds its spine.
Same. I the scheme of things this pardon over something this minor isn't a big deal. Especially since a large share of the electorate basically said they don't care about the ethics of the president.
Also, im gonna be honest, while I am fine with hunter getting normal and fair punishment for his crimes, trump has stated he intends to seek vengeance and hunter was an easy target and he has never had power to be worth being a target.
Truth to tell, the things he was charged with would never have made it to trial or would have been pled down to practically nothing had he not been "Hunter Biden, son of Joe Biden."
I actually was thinking the same thing when I heard the news. Trump and MAGA will definitely attack Hunter even if he had nothing to do with politics. The MAGA always plays dirty, so it's time democrats do the same.
Jo Biden has pardoned his son. At least that puts an end to all the useless and pointless speculation, particularly in light of Trump having to pardon almost all of his cabinet and himself.
Allowing his son to to to continue to live under the maga persecution until the orange god hung him on a cross would be wrong, period. Criminals, including the mega rich, just don't think like normal people.
if the charges were accurate, tax fraud of over +1mil $ should not be excused. u go commit tax fraud of +1mil and see who comes to ur rescue. It does not matter which muppet of which team is president, it should not give an excuse for tax fraud while the working class can't afford basic necessities
Or the fact that he’s a nepotism baby at 54 years old and needs serious rehab. I wish dems would stop giving elitists a green light because they aren’t MAGA. He plead guilty to tax evasion for a reason, shouldn’t have been carrying a firearm and yet does as he please. Dems please get your shit 2geth
It was the right thing to do. Maga hemmed him up from the jump. Ridiculous. I’m so glad he did this. Joe is a standup guy. I am so going to miss that. 
He isn't finished yet. He can do this up until TheOtherGuy is sworn in. If I recall correctly more than one President has signed pardons on the morning of his successor's inauguration
Stealing classified documents on your way out, and stashing them in your bathroom and other parts of private residence(s) and then stonewalling and lying about it to avoid detection is a much much bigger no no.
This is about Patel being named for FBI director. You can read a lot more about this at @meidastouch.bsky.social if you’re interested. Nobody cares if you think it’s ok or not. Two wrongs don’t make a right but the atone throwing over it by people who live in large glass houses is ridiculous.
Patel may be FBI he has made it clear that Hunters head will be on the chopping block , any other person would not have gone through what the GOP did to him - Read the room , I would not have left my son to be their first sacrifice either .
Exactly. At some point he had to stop hoping/pretending these neofascist dictators will do anything other than what they have been saying: prosecute critics and perceived political enemies.
I’d be fine with him pardoning Hunter for crimes not committed and yet to be investigated. Just not for those he already was charged for by Biden’s own DOJ, and for which he pled guilty.
The system can't be trusted under Trump especially when Project 2025 starts in full.
He was right to give Hunter as much protection as he could from the corruption and abuse we know is coming.
I get this argument. It gives me pause. But he also pardoned his son for crimes he actually committed and was found guilty of by HIS OWN DOJ. That I cannot condone.
Those charges that would never have been pursued if he was NOT the son of the president. They rarely charge anyone with gun possession unless used to commit a crime. They never pursue jail time for tax evasion when it’s been repaid. That’s why Biden pardoned him.
The norms have not and will not be adhered to going forward and if it were my son and I knew that he was going to have his head on the chopping block by a fucked up administration I would save my son . At this point it has absolutely nothing to do with love of son OR country it’s still both for Joe
My issue with the complaints is that I saw multiple former US Attorneys say that had this more been made political by the GOP, the Trump appointed Special Counsel and Garland, he would never have been charged. Former AG Holder also chimed in
Minuscule charges of lying on a 4473 ATF form to purchase a handgun? My guess is that half of all retail gun purchasers have done the same thing. Tax "evasion" or underpayment of taxes owed? There is a difference (intent), and he's paid restitution. Pardon is appropriate.
If Joe had pardoned Hunter looooooong ago, Congress would have been forced to do some work instead of Huntering Huntering, Huntering, Huntering and next year the same and the next year the same.
It's not like Hunter Biden incited a coup against our government or stole and hid top secret documents or sexually assaulted and defamed a woman (or women) or lied over 30,000 times in elected office......
Dems, STOP PLSYING BY THE RULES THAT NO LONGER EXIST!
Joe, you need to make a few more steps. Go Joe, Go and Kamala and you, DO NOT ATTENS ORANGE CANCER INAUGURATION!
DO NOT NORMALIZE HIM! DO.NOT.NORMALIZE.HIM!
Absolutely. The Right has expertly crafted sound bites to distill their narratives— “her emails,” “Hunter’s laptop,” “birth certificate”—all spouted with no evidence or remorse. The media amplifies these claims, and MAGA supporters eagerly consume them. It's a glaring absence of critical thinking.
Yes I know it’s not parody, that’s the weirdness because in any other sane reality that statement by an account “eagleman” should never have been serious.
Safe to assume that anyone castigating Biden for this is doing so in bad faith. They're clearly also failing to ask themselves what THEY would have done under the circumstances given what a largely bogus and partisan stitch-up this was in the first place.
Arguably, Trump’s greatest misuse of power was his general pardoning of a raft of convicted criminals in order to ensure their silence regarding his own criminality. This effectively established his own immunity long before the SCOTUS did. Hunter Biden was attacked as a diversion. Press treats equal
Hunter has pretty much served time. Comer has seen to that. Because Biden being the president and his respect for the law the republicans did everything they could to see that Hunter paid a higher price.
we care about principles, but at this point it’s like trying to color inside the lines while the other guy is just smearing shit all over the paper. why fucking bother
Normally I would have called this horrible for America. But we've already crossed some unsavory thresholds in regards to presidential pardons. Trump pardoned all his cronies who stayed loyal. And I suspect he will pardon a great many more in he next 4 years. I find that more disgusting than this.
Either the Democrats move to a populist platform (like Bernie/AOC) or they perish. Authenticity won in 2024. Authentic populist democratic politicians with policies that speak to people’s actual needs are the only way forward. Elections are less than two years away. Midterms.
Exactly, time to make all of the sweeping change we can. President Biden is technically immune to everything for another 7 weeks, let’s take the top off and make things impossible for these idiots coming into office.
I am happy he got the pardon, but it still feels silly for two reasons. Its a pardon for two crimes no one got sentenced to prison for, but a fine. And the republicans trying to remove or losen these rules.
Good that Joe pardoned his son. It was an over reach by Republicans trying to attack Joe. Trump will be handing out pardons like candy and for a price. Now if only Joe would pardon Leonard Pelletier.
100% agree! But I am gobsmacked over people freaking out b/c Joe pardoned Hunter, but a felon and an adjudicated rapist is going to occupy the White House🤦♀️🤷♀️
It’s beyond absurd that we keep attributing MAGA behavior to a lack of good” examples from dems. Sometimes, the good guys just need to pick up that folding chair and clobber back the wrestling villain.
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The rules changed when Blood-Clot-Elect got into power in 2016. The rules were tossed out that very moment. It's been that way every since.
Democrats might start thinking how to play this game better.
Make your own rules. Play rough.
I will un-follow or block over this.
That's one in the eye for Mr. Hitler AKA Trump.
They can't argue with that.
Had this been Trump doing it, there might be a few gripes from the Dems, and then nothing!
That's why I wish Biden didn't do this. because Republicans will be hypocrites and most people will believe them
something Trump may not recover from.
This isn't the first time in American history that presidential politics has resembled a food fight. We're just regressing to our mean.
Republicans celebrated.
So, spare me the outrage.
I don't give a flying f*ck who Biden pardons now. There are no rules, no norms in Trump's America.
You should fight EVERYTHING with fire.
But the moment he realized that the law is infected by corporate greed, he had the "break" the law.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/02/us/politics/biden-pardon-hunter-democrats-reaction.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
He was right to give Hunter as much protection as he could from the corruption and abuse we know is coming.
My issue with the complaints is that I saw multiple former US Attorneys say that had this more been made political by the GOP, the Trump appointed Special Counsel and Garland, he would never have been charged. Former AG Holder also chimed in
Joe, you need to make a few more steps. Go Joe, Go and Kamala and you, DO NOT ATTENS ORANGE CANCER INAUGURATION!
DO NOT NORMALIZE HIM! DO.NOT.NORMALIZE.HIM!
“𝑀𝑒𝑑𝑖𝑎 𝑓𝑎𝑖𝑙𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑛𝑜𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑚𝑒𝑚𝑏𝑒𝑟 𝑜𝑓 𝐷𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙𝑑'𝑠 𝑓𝑎𝑚𝑖𝑙𝑦, 𝑎𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑡 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑙𝑑𝑟𝑒𝑛, ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑠𝑜𝑛-𝑖𝑛-𝑙𝑎𝑤 𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑐𝑢𝑟𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑤𝑖𝑓𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑖𝑑 𝑎 𝑤𝑜𝑟𝑑 𝑜𝑓 𝑠𝑢𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡 𝑜𝑓 ℎ𝑖𝑚 𝑑𝑢𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑟𝑒 𝑐𝑎𝑚𝑝𝑎𝑖𝑔𝑛.”
ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ𝑀𝑎𝑟𝑦 𝐿. 𝑇𝑟𝑢𝑚𝑝
#hunterBiden
The reichs insane OBSESSION with HB is beyond disgusting!
#gopHypocrisy