I have raised a division 1 athlete and speaking to many including my nieces this is a battle I think the right has won over on a lot of the youth athletes and their parents as well. I had hoped Kamala had not run on that it was just a battle we couldn’t have won. Love to know everyone take - ThreadSky

jadhmi123.bsky.social • 14 days ago

I have raised a division 1 athlete and speaking to many including my nieces this is a battle I think the right has won over on a lot of the youth athletes and their parents as well. I had hoped Kamala had not run on that it was just a battle we couldn’t have won. Love to know everyone take

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mcuban.bsky.social•13 days ago

Agree. There are only 10 trans athletes in D1. I’m all for supporting trans athletes. But it’s a Streisand Effect. It makes their lives more difficult because the hate is focused on them continuously.
In the 70s Renee Richards was a celebrity. Today helping without PR helps more IMO

konspikuous.bsky.social•13 days ago

What the odds on trans sports betting being a viable path to retiring before 80?

bajablastenjoyer.bsky.social•13 days ago

disagree, the lack of PR *is* the problem. hateful people have complete control over the narrative and there's little to no media pushback. things were better for trans people a decade ago before the far-right's propaganda barrage ruined it

bajablastenjoyer.bsky.social•13 days ago

we need counter-messaging to push back against the only public narrative being a "THEY'RE GONNA TAKE OVER SOCIETY AND EAT YOUR SOULS" that's corroding acceptance rates and justifying discrimination

targas-taargas.bsky.social•13 days ago

education about the process is critical right now.

targas-taargas.bsky.social•13 days ago

admittedly the wording could be better, but i created this to appeal to logic regarding the false narrative of gender reassignment at schools:

dont-get-played.bsky.social•13 days ago

Transmen need to become visible. They are letting the transwomen take all the heat.

tired-raccoon.bsky.social•12 days ago

we didnt make ourselves invisible https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/photo-of-transgender-wrestler-in-texas-is-missing-context-idUSL1N36921A/

dont-get-played.bsky.social•12 days ago

Thanks for this. I still wish more transmen would show solidarity with transwomen who are taking most of the heat.

tired-raccoon.bsky.social•12 days ago

sometimes it feels like we’re being erased from all sides tho, a trans man is the director of the aclu’s aids and lgbt project. we’re out here, they just call us confused little girls.

susieshoe65.bsky.social•13 days ago

What a pathetic excuse to step on the neck of others. Just like Germany.

rutrow.bsky.social•13 days ago

dangergirl6.bsky.social•13 days ago

The Felon just announced 25% on all steel and aluminum coming into the US incl from Canada - but let’s all pretend this autocracy you now live under is really not!

obregonia.bsky.social•13 days ago

I was thinking about Dr. Richards and Wendy Carlos. Things were SO different in the 70s. Both ladies are still with us, at ages 90 and 85.

donduckling.bsky.social•13 days ago

That is 10 women, that aren't allowed to compete in the sport they worked all life at, cause 10 boys didn't want to play with the boys.

Girls and women are getting fucked by you lot. Misogynistic logic 101.

dia.bsky.social•13 days ago

Feb 9 2025, isn't Jan 19 2025 and this isn't just about trans athletes. PR is unfortunately helpful to let trans kids know that people want them to live.

Regardless, we should let those athletes indicate what support they want. Some are ok with being symbols, some aren't

mitch11.bsky.social•13 days ago

if it wasn’t trans athletes, it would have been something else. republicans politicians will
find someone to stir up hate against, always.

donduckling.bsky.social•13 days ago

Then how about y'all fuckin stop feeding them easy breakfast?

No sane person finds it okay, that boys participate in girls sport. This is not "far right", as you just clearly fuckin seen. Grats. You just got a orange monkey elected, idiots..

questionwonder.bsky.social•13 days ago

what is equality,really?
As a female I could not play sports for 18 yrs of public schooling, we could not hold most jobs, we were forced to wear skirts n dresses everyday for 13 years.. shop or auto mechanics, NO NO NO ..there are millions like me.. how do you think we view equality demands?

dark-magic.bsky.social•13 days ago

What about a league for trans athletes?

nafnlaus.bsky.social•13 days ago

You have to ask, what are your goals?

There is no legitimate reason for a trans woman who never went through a male puberty and has sub-female norm T in her system to not compete with other women, but cis women with conditions that overproduce T to compete, except for bigotry.

nafnlaus.bsky.social•13 days ago

Rules based around T levels, how long they've been below threshold, whether there was high T levels during puberty... these can all be real issues, and more to the point, *sports leagues already have these rules*. But what is the point of dragging in chromosomes or birth anatomy, except hate?

nafnlaus.bsky.social•13 days ago

The science on how various levels and timings of T exposure affect later performance is varied, evolving, and appears to vary from sport to sport, and which populations are studied (general vs. athletes). For example, with an athletic population in the West Point study, trans women on blockers...

nafnlaus.bsky.social•13 days ago

... dropped to cis levels of performance on sifups and pushups, but not fully on running (prob. because of the height advantage from T during puberty). Another complicating factor in studies is that, in general population trans women, they have worse performance metrics than cis men *pre*-HRT.

dark-magic.bsky.social•13 days ago

No goals at all and no bigotry. All I was doing was asking a question. If there is no Inherent advantage for one or the other in this situation no issue. Appears from your posts there is none. Sadly, the Haters on the Right don't care about facts/science.

nafnlaus.bsky.social•13 days ago

Didn't mean to come across as hostile to you in particular (I should have phrased it as "One has to ask" instead of "You have to ask")

boristhedark.bsky.social•13 days ago

All ten of them? And if the numbers were greater, it would send a clear message to them that official society does not recognize them as they are. Also, transitioning really does level the field. Also, separating trans people opens the door to finding other physical reasons to exclude people.

raddix.bsky.social•13 days ago

For sure, human rights and dignity aren't for everyone.

tobysmypup.bsky.social•13 days ago

Count me out on supporting trans athletes unless they want to compete against the gender that they were born. There's no acceptable reason to allow born men to compete against born females.

leiabryant13.bsky.social•6 days ago

Just remember those who are born male who have not completed male puberty have absolutely no unfair advantage over women in competition and should be allowed to compete with no restrictions as trans women. People who have gone through male puberty is a different discussion.

rocktorrey.bsky.social•12 days ago

How many trans males are trying to compete in men’s sports? Everything I read is trans females wanting to compete in women’s sports. Why is that?

valearle.bsky.social•13 days ago

Really?

pmmcdaniel.bsky.social•13 days ago

They didn’t bring this attention on themselves though. They were brought out of the closet as scapegoats. The latest boogeyman.

b34rsgirl.bsky.social•13 days ago

ktdallas.bsky.social•13 days ago

It was the right who brought it up. The trans athletes were not advertising their existence. They only defended themselves when attacked.

t-w-e55.bsky.social•13 days ago

Would you say we need a Trans Rosa Parks? Someone who is upstanding in every way and is willing to take the heat and ideally the wit to dish it back out?

stlcanadian.bsky.social•13 days ago

100% Mark.

daytontalk.bsky.social•13 days ago

How do you avoid PR? The PR is coming from the haters attacking them. I don't see trans athletes out there making commercials about being trans.

tired-raccoon.bsky.social•12 days ago

republican made it a state issue 8 years ago, including genital checks of minors. colleges and the olympics had policies in place for trans participation long before then, it was never a free for all. I think they were conscious of the streisand effect, which made them reactive instead of proactive

tired-raccoon.bsky.social•12 days ago

*republican run states, namely florida

sirbradwi.bsky.social•13 days ago

Staying silent when people are being systematically attacked allows the attackers to win and slaughters the innocent. Nazi Germany proved that - or should have. Reagan proved that with the AIDS pandemic - or should have.

sed10.bsky.social•13 days ago

They didn't ask for the PR and neither did DEI. It was the bigots who made the 10 D1 athletes a rallying cry for their hateful base.

zorak.net•13 days ago

In politics you don’t win by being right. You win by convincing people to support you. You have to pick your fights and positions.

sed10.bsky.social•13 days ago

I don't know what that means, but ok.

barkingsheltie.bsky.social•13 days ago

Scapegoating is a time honored page from authoritarian playbook.

mamaji.bsky.social•13 days ago

Once we start accepting discrimination against one group we start on a slippery slope. AOC has talked about it. When it is about Trans people we say Trump is not talking about me, next he goes against natives we say not about me ultimately he we will come after people like me

radiovixen.bsky.social•13 days ago

It’s an argument based of fear, hatred, misinformation and is having a harmful effect

jf2u.bsky.social•13 days ago

As many have said she didn't run on it. What's interesting is how many people thought that, because *Trump* ran on it.

Which tells us something about how messaging works. Hopefully we can turn that information about messaging to our advantage.

questionwonder.bsky.social•13 days ago

think ConDon and right whackos will go after Title Nine?

kaporter.bsky.social•13 days ago

She didn’t run on it. Trump did

dr-isobel.bsky.social•11 days ago

I think Kamala probably should have toned it down a bit instead of putting a divisive policy front and foremost in her campaign. It's the kinda policy you want to sneak in once you've secured the presidency!

newyorkmets70.bsky.social•13 days ago

She didn’t run on this. Being inclusive is not running on an issue. She very clearly ran on what policies she had to help the middle class and poor people and what a clear present danger Trump is. Trump is the one who ran on his bigotry and ran false ads about VP and trans inmates.

cmdrro.bsky.social•13 days ago

She could've run ads showing the data on how trans girls and women don't actually perform better than cis girls and women, but she didn't. Or ads that connected the hate towards trans girls and women to purity culture and misogyny towards cis women, but she didn't.

olympicdane.bsky.social•13 days ago

She didn't run on it. She never mentioned it

admissionsmom.bsky.social•13 days ago

This is exactly what I was going to say. How do people not know that?

l-a-p-o.bsky.social•14 days ago

Follow the money. The only reason people care about who is in sports is because of money. Take that away and nobody cares who gets to play.

Why did you groom your child to be a Div 1 athlete? Hmm.

gclaymitchell4th.bsky.social•13 days ago

What is fucking wrong with you?

ongoingslaughter.bsky.social•13 days ago

We can't cut anyone loose. We need to defend trans people because they are being attacked by our enemies first! We can't wait until they come for us. That is the whole point. If you are unfamiliar with trans stuff, educate yourself.

middybelle.bsky.social•13 days ago

The bizarre thing is that this is exactly the type of thing that should be thrown back to the states if you really believed in states rights. Abortion doesn’t deserve federal protection but you want to legislate on little league rules?? So ridiculous.

prodemocracy2.bsky.social•13 days ago

There are 10 trans athletes in all of college athletics. It’s a non issue.

katsimay501.bsky.social•13 days ago

She didn’t run on it. Rs made it an issue. She ran on finding a way to bake housing more affordable and things more equitable and taxing billionaires.

valearle.bsky.social•13 days ago

Kamala didn’t run on trans rights—she barely mentioned them. Donald ran hate campaigns against trans people, though.

Do you think abandoning a minority means they won’t come for you? Because fascists come for everyone. One group losing their rights means that all of us will lose our rights.

nancydiamondwagner.bsky.social•13 days ago

She didn’t run on it. And fuck the Trans haters. If there were only 10 black player or 10 Jewish players impacted, would you say the same thing? Equity for all or none?

twistedk71.bsky.social•13 days ago

Followed her campaign daily, watched several of her speeches, she never ran on trans issues, that’s a falsehood planted by Trump/MAGA/RW-media to fire up the base.

forgenorman.bsky.social•14 days ago

Only because they lied through their teeth. Have you bothered to do any research?

donthomas.bsky.social•13 days ago

She didn’t run on trans issues and any person who voted for Trump because of Trans issues deserve the pain he will cause in their life.

wileynann.bsky.social•13 days ago

Kamala Harris did not run on trans athletes. Trump attacked her as being extreme on the subject of trans rights, totally lying about the reality, about the stats, as usual.

paul-lukasiak.bsky.social•13 days ago

except she DIDN"T run on trans issues. She ran on EQUALITY FOR ALL issues.

Trump ran against trans people, and cast Harris as his opposition on the issue, and it stuck, because she lacked the political skills or instinct to explain her position in a politically palatable way.

kathi88fitz.bsky.social•13 days ago

Kamala never mentioned trans issues. She did not run on that at all.

lisawito.bsky.social•13 days ago

I think this issue is MORE complicated than everyone is making it. The bottom line is that a trans girl/woman does have a biological advantage over biological girls/women. It is unfair when an athlete loses because the field is not level. I wish I had an answer that makes it fair for everyone.

sirbradwi.bsky.social•13 days ago

Harris lost because she is a non-white woman who ran against a white male. Her loss had NOTHING to do with her stances on trans people in any way shape or form. It had everything to do with this being a highly racist and misogynistic country and because MAGA knows messaging. Dems don't.

hh202411.bsky.social•13 days ago

Exactly

gleness522.bsky.social•13 days ago

About 12% of the LGBTQ community and less than 1% of US population are trans (Gallup 2023/24) It’s a small percentage that all the focus is put on. I am not saying trans rights are not important. I am wondering if my LGBTQ community pushed too hard, too fast.

rokksula.theremins.club•13 days ago

There will be a time when standing up for human rights is the right thing to do.

Perhaps tomorrow is a better day to fight for human rights? Or maybe the day after tomorrow? Human rights will be for everyone ... sometime in the future.

gleness522.bsky.social•13 days ago

Certainly standing up for human rights is always the right thing to do. I didn’t imply otherwise. This country moves slowly. Sometimes winning a race takes a slow and steady pace, not a sprint. I am a lesbian that has been around for a minute. It took decades to get marriage equality.

rokksula.theremins.club•13 days ago

I disagree. The fight for human rights is neither a sprint nor a marathon, it is more like a tug-o-war. If we stop pulling—even for a second—the other side wins, and we all loose our rights.

We must never, for a second, stop the fight for *any* of us.

moodyblue80.bsky.social•13 days ago

It gives republicans something to build their hate and fear in the mindless sheep!

nyckaty132.bsky.social•13 days ago

D’s always mistakenly run on social issues, falling every time for the ‘red meat’ bait Trump and R’s throw at them.

newyorkmets70.bsky.social•13 days ago

But she didn’t run on those issues. You weren’t paying attention.

nyckaty132.bsky.social•13 days ago

Oh but she did. She absolutely did. Turns out most Americans don’t care about plight of migrants, women’s health care, voters rights when it comes to presidential elections. They just don’t.

newyorkmets70.bsky.social•13 days ago

Those are human rights issues not social issues. Turns out the majority of white people didn’t care.

nyckaty132.bsky.social•13 days ago

And failed to move too many voters. Without winning we can’t now protect them. Millions who voted for Biden didn’t show up for Harris. And here we are in far far dangerous place.

newyorkmets70.bsky.social•13 days ago

White voters failed to hear the message. White voters voted for racism and misogyny. We are HERE because of white voters and Latino men. I don’t care how you want to spin it.

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