I thought the UK voted in the Labour Party, so why are they behaving like Tories? Has the overton window moved that far! I always said Mr Corbyn was Britain's best hope.
Starmer deliberately got rid of Corbyn and parachuted his mates in. You really shouldn't be surprised by what he's doing now. You could see this coming a mile off which is why I was very vocal in the run up to the GE. I was just called a Tory Enabler tho. Oh well.
Didn't vote Tory or Labour sticking with the Liberals as they supported a return to the EU. The right wing press and Starmer stabbed Mr Corbyn in the back with no evidence.
Oh, and as for the "But that wasn't in the manifesto" ..... bollocks to that. Go with the new rules of politics. Fight fire with fire. Just say "So what?" and take the opposition out at the knees.
Starmer's not got the memo. "We're better than that" is for losers in this game.
They seem to be making all the mistakes the Democrats made and then throwing in a few of their own.
Massive majority, they could have done real good.
Cleared out Johnson's lackeys, taxed wealth, political funding & 'think tank' reform, nationalising.......
But no. Same old. Same old.
When a suspect is arrested; why do they need to know race, religion, height, age, weight, shoe size?
All irrelevant. The suspect is detained. The investigation will continue.
Those figures will be anonymised and released for scrutiny.
I'm talking about specific incidents, and at the time of the incident.
I want a bit of honesty* from them; "So we have an excuse to hate a whole community" for instance.
This version of Labour is nearly unrecognisable from the one circa Cameron+Osborne’s Austerity. Some nasty infections must have set in during its stint in opposition.
Desperate clawing for power...so the old Blair mantra of we need to get into power to change things finally hits the wall as BS...why is anyone going to vote Reform lite...even the morons can see straight through it...
He's making sure Labour are out at the next election, time for all MPs front and back benchers to grow a spine and tell him his times up, hopefully we can still win the next election if we do
I don't think they are pandering to farage. I think it's who they actually are. I think they believe doing this divisive shit is what they think is right. But yes, they are mindblowingly awful.
Left because of Brexit but those mugs were the start of Labour’s feeble efforts to hug racists and xenophobes and the beginning of the end for my membership.
We're led to believe Labour are doing these things to appeal to Reform voters. I'm beginning to think that's just a ruse and that the people who now behind Labour are the same as those behind Reform and the Tories.
It's time some journalist made a name for themselves by following the money on this.
Why are these supposed intelligent people so stupid? They are playing right into Reforms hands and don’t appear to have a plan to plough their own furrow, engaging those who voted for them in positive change. I feel like shaking them.
If you yield an inch to the far right they will keep sliding more right. Entertaining their ideology just shifts the Overton window in their direction.
LAB sold out for power.
If you plot all 400 odd policy positions across all 12 dimensions 60% of LAB is now like the 60% of TOR left of Deform.
The solution needs broad digital populism to stop them.
We are launching soon with that goal.
We - the people
Check us out https://reformparty.org
It's not the launch name - that will be POPULI
It was chosen before to go through the electoral commission process. The name change is going through the branding before launch
No more R parties ;)
For crying out loud….with everything else going on in this country is this really a priority? Was this in the manifesto? No…? Then firstly deal with the bloody priorities you told us you would focus on🤬
Queue Badenoch saying this is still too socialist/woke and we should bring back work camps for anyone born without a St George's cross stapled to their forehead, or something.
I had such high hopes for this labour government. I knew they would have to work within restrictions because of the mess they inherited, but I have been shocked and deeply disappointed at the decisions they are making.
Well you say they have to work within restrictions, but those are mostly self imposed & they have accepted an economic orthodoxy which is defined by their political opponents (Tories mostly).
None of which is an excuse to throw vulnerable minorities under the bus
I’ve seen this coming for the last 5 years. Longer in fact since reeves stated labour would be tougher on benefits than the tories 13 years ago. They haven’t hidden anything, starver has been an authoritarian hell bent on moving the party right since he took over the leadership. I paid attention.
Same. It was obvious if you wanted to see it. If they still thought starver was the caped anti brexit crusader, maybe they were blinded by their single interest, but as it has resulted in *gestures everywhere* this, this selfishness is unforgivable.
I'm left wondering who does support this cabal atm. How have they managed to become so disconnected with their natural support let alone spitting in the face of us who loaned our vote?
Mystery to me, but McSweeney is in the mix somewhere
There's a lot of otherwise well-meaning people who think that deep down Starmer is rejoining the EU (he isnt). For them that single issue is worth everything else, but they get very cross at anyone who doesn't share this conviction
Getting very cross tells me that they are uncomfortable in that skin!
Realistically we are not going to join EU again quickly unless something cataclysmic happens (possible I suppose with Trump around). The EU will need to feel they can trust us beyond one parliament and that's not a given atm
Yep absolutely agree with you, was hoping for something better than this, my real fear is they're going to lose the next election and allow a Tory/Reform government, that'll be the end of all our rights and the NHS being free, be afraid people
Interesting one. In medicine associations help protect life and health e.g.Tay Sachs or sickle cell but it is clear that reasoning is probabilistic not deterministic- so if an argument were made, or evidence proffered, that this may do the same how do we balance that with fear of repeated precedent.
On the plus side, this game of policy tennis between the fake left and the real hard right should be a real opening for the LibDems and Greens to fill the centre-left political void.
Labour are going to get such a kicking in the May elections, making it even harder to govern if they lose control of councils. Could that be the wake-up call they need?
It is valid to collate that data privately to support a targeted focus on criminal behaviour in society, but surely not to make it public in this way. We are bound to see unpleasant repercussions of this later...
They would be better off publishing the person's poverty level.
Not only would this show that there is a correlation between higher levels of poverty and higher levels of crime, but also give those on higher incomes an incentive to call for more equitable taxation strategies.
Xenophobia has always been a feature of British society, but bringing it even further into the open like this will do nothing to appease the Faragist frothers. All it will do is encourage them to incite more hatred.
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Starmer's not got the memo. "We're better than that" is for losers in this game.
Massive majority, they could have done real good.
Cleared out Johnson's lackeys, taxed wealth, political funding & 'think tank' reform, nationalising.......
But no. Same old. Same old.
Nobody else’s.
By their actions, Labour are legitimising the gobshite Farage.
All irrelevant. The suspect is detained. The investigation will continue.
I'm talking about specific incidents, and at the time of the incident.
I want a bit of honesty* from them; "So we have an excuse to hate a whole community" for instance.
*As if that's likely
no it's not, it's exactly the same.
How can Starmer really think moving the labour party further right than the previous government is a good thing?
He's haemorrhaging support and instead of returning towards safe labour territory he's endanger of becoming moving further to the far right.
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I don’t know who most of these people are any more.
I didn’t suddenly get racist in the last decade so what’s her excuse?
It's time some journalist made a name for themselves by following the money on this.
#NoDeporteeLeftBehind
We'll bring them all back home
If you plot all 400 odd policy positions across all 12 dimensions 60% of LAB is now like the 60% of TOR left of Deform.
The solution needs broad digital populism to stop them.
We are launching soon with that goal.
We - the people
Check us out
https://reformparty.org
It was chosen before to go through the electoral commission process. The name change is going through the branding before launch
No more R parties ;)
They already have been the New Conservatives
Next up Fake tans and Botox
None of which is an excuse to throw vulnerable minorities under the bus
Voted Green, hoping others would see it too. 🤷😢
Deeply disappointing describes it well.
Even the Labour grassroots are despairing, the best case scenario is that they just stay home
Mystery to me, but McSweeney is in the mix somewhere
Realistically we are not going to join EU again quickly unless something cataclysmic happens (possible I suppose with Trump around). The EU will need to feel they can trust us beyond one parliament and that's not a given atm
Not only would this show that there is a correlation between higher levels of poverty and higher levels of crime, but also give those on higher incomes an incentive to call for more equitable taxation strategies.