1. No submarines
2. The privilege of being a nuclear waste dump for the US and UK who were too criminally negligent ever to plan for properly managing it.
Because they’re the mafia and we’re scared, so we’re paying protection money to not get f*cked by them,
It’s bi-partisan because neither party wants to get blamed for imploding the Australian wealth bubble
Morrison cancelled French subs and then signed us up to AUKUS. We should not be involved and should certainly not send any more money to the Conman-in-Chief. The Nigerian princes will be taking advantage next if we aren't a bit more discerning about scams.
Actually upon reflection I suppose it’s not surprising that a country without the courage to become a republic or give its own First Nations people a voice and say in their own future doesn’t have the courage to stand up to another country that’s just been taken over by a fascist.
It’s astounding if you think about it too hard that we managed to give people marriage equality, given how utterly selfish and cruel most of us seem to be…and I know that’s not you guys on here but Australia as a whole, that’s a different story.
Like mandatory sentencing for hate speech yesterday, his small target strategy means he embraces and runs with whatever wedging crap LNP serve up. Understandable that hostile MSM makes it very difficult but FFS
Hard agree! Juice media nail it with the choice being between shit and shit light. I was hoping for a hung parliament last time and hopefully we will get it this time
So random bloke takes a cheap shot- Rusteds! Block or engage? From quick profile scan he appears legit, despite showing an inclination to hasty/smug character assessment. Also conscious that the RWNJs love the woke squabbling amongst themselves, splitting hairs about relative ideological purity. 1/
So recall Morrison's stage 3 tax cuts; an outrageous funnelling of $ to the wealthy. Morrison knows with partisan media backing him (including knobbled ABC) it would contribute to sucking the oxygen from media reporting if Albo knocked it back, but put off Labor voters if he committed to it.
It's a Thucydides Trap and we're on the wrong side when our biggest f'n trading partner is China. Australia has shallow reefs that's why the Collins class worked so well. Though subs are only good as a back up if your country gets nuked. So it's all pointless.
I’m led to believe the French, being pissed off with the deal for their subs being scrubbed, are selling the 6 subs to India.
So they can cruise up and down the west coast of Aus. Could be interesting
It’s because enshitified IPA/LNP & Morriscum thought they could wedge ALP on national security. ALP folded immediately & now we’re no longer a sovereign nation. Sold out by fascists to fascists
Subs. Dumb. Obvious corruptive corporate collusion. We need to back Ukraine. 2000 troops landing hero style on Ukrainian soil, and staying there, to help win their war, which is also ours.
It's astounding that we've just paid $800 million to the US when we won't get the first sub for umpteen years! Mind boggling. We should have kept the money to pay for the scientific & medical research funds which the US has withdrawn!!!!
You don’t understand or you don’t like the reason? You won’t stop the military machine from doing what it does. It doesn’t have to make sense to you or me that isn’t the point. The point is it contributes to keeping the military machine running. That is the reason, that is why it won’t be stopped.
There are no grey areas here, if you’re eating with Nazis, you’re a Nazi.. same goes for if you go into business with Nazis.
We have people who know better, hiding their heads in the sand & taking their 5 pieces of silver.
Labor or Liberal, see no problem dealing with Trump or his Nazis. #Fact
The previous government were traitors and the current ones are spineless. They are not working for Australia, and haven't been for some time.
Some of them may have good intentions that are bent out of shape by compromise, but now are hollow with no relevant real world skills in governance.
Motivation was always greed, #lnp ministers looking at a juicy consultant role after they were kicked out of office. This is especially true of #scummo
We should have stayed with the Frogs - it was a Scomo brain fart that Albo carried on after bailing us out for few billion! Subs just keep giving sinking in the shit
Morrison’s shocking legacy left for AU. Labor could have walked away from AUKUS. It is a nonsense a & gross waste of money for nuke subs we don’t need.
Agree. The French have a history of making excellent submarines. The rubis class has retired and served for well over 20 years. They were nuclear powered. The new class Suffren class is an outstanding replacement. Dutton and Morrison are directly responsible for denying Australia these boats.
The is what I was saying yesterday. Mind you not sure Keating was one I included. He owed my dad a beer since forever ago & dad gone 25yrs now. He’ll never get that beer😉 I carry his grudge😆
Ha! He was a revolutionary leader; opened up the Australian economy to the world. Everything that that cunt Howard took credit for was established by Keating.
Not only that we handed over $750billion + to the newly ensconced shake down artists BEFORE it was due. FMD!
Meanwhile in other news, a young bloke with Down’s syndrome I know has had his NDIS package halved without due process.
I would love someone to explain it to me. We wanted submarines and asked the French to adapt their nuclear ones to diesel, at high cost then scrap deal, at high cost, cause we want nuclear subs. And then get the US to make them at just insanely high cost. Please make it make sense #auspol
Yes and even worse… we’re paying the US $4.78b to boost the capacity of THEIR submarine industry, and they’ll sell us a few nuclear-powered submarines in the “early 2030s”…
There are plenty of resources that explain AUKUS and many defense folk you can follow who have taken the time to explain a lot of the nuances and detail behind AUKUS.
But clearly not in this thread - when you have folks link AUKUS to the Australian Federal government being Nazis. 🤦🏾🤪
It doesn't. The French have a history of making excellent submarines. The rubis class has retired and served for well over 20 years. They were nuclear powered. The new class Suffren class is an outstanding replacement. Dutton and Morrison are directly responsible for denying Australia these boats.
You're certainly not on your own with that thinking. Giving two other countries $386 billion, that have combined economies more than 50 times larger than our own, so we can employ 4,000 more people & have nothing to show for it at the end, is kind of like investing in sunshine, or the hydrogen atom.
I can understand why Morrison would sign up, he thought he would make US President at the end, but for the subsequent government to continue is mind boggling to me.
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1. No submarines
2. The privilege of being a nuclear waste dump for the US and UK who were too criminally negligent ever to plan for properly managing it.
INSANITY!!!!!!!
#auspol
It’s bi-partisan because neither party wants to get blamed for imploding the Australian wealth bubble
It's one of the reasons I'm no longer rusted.
So they can cruise up and down the west coast of Aus. Could be interesting
"we" haven't but the ultimate gravy train has been embraced by the duopoly that's sickeningly way past it's use by date
Wait our government did that.
🤦🏼♂️
We have people who know better, hiding their heads in the sand & taking their 5 pieces of silver.
Labor or Liberal, see no problem dealing with Trump or his Nazis. #Fact
Some of them may have good intentions that are bent out of shape by compromise, but now are hollow with no relevant real world skills in governance.
Meanwhile in other news, a young bloke with Down’s syndrome I know has had his NDIS package halved without due process.
I mean WTAF?
LNP and now ALP are very generous with taxpayer money on things we don't need
But clearly not in this thread - when you have folks link AUKUS to the Australian Federal government being Nazis. 🤦🏾🤪
We're making a tribute payment to our imperial bosses. The subs are just the excuse.