If the government shuts down Trump and Elon get to decide what is essential and could simply decide to never reopen the agencies they want to axe like the Dept of Ed.
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How do we know that? Is this BS from Schumer to grease the stick so it goes in easier? Unfortunately I don’t trust anyone who bows to the GOP without a fight!
Because we can take them to court now. If the government shuts down, he will declare an emergency to finish his plunder and there is no legal recourse for us
Or they could decide not to disseminate ANY of the available funds to these depts and simply funnel it straight into Musk's companies / cronies' pockets.
Yeah and you don’t think a very large number of Americans won’t take to the streets, besides they’re gonna do that anyway better for Americans to see it done in one fell swoop instead of by 1000 cuts, maybe then people will wake the F up!
They’re shutting them down now. That’s a fear tactic. Read the resolution. See how much power it gives Musk and extra power given to the Trump. It should be a NO vote.
@rachelbitecofer.bsky.social, do you actually not see that a Yes on CR is a direct endorsement of the regime so far? That they’ll overreach regardless of a shutdown?
The courts can catch up and stand their ground despite a shutdown and a clean CR can still be written that has guardrails for DOGE.
I think that’s true. But historically, one of the few things that wake up the populace is a shutdown. AND they direct blame appropriately. It’s happening piecemeal now, and the groups affected are angry and speaking up (town halls). Feels like a full stop will just activate people more quickly.
The federal courts would be paid for just 2 weeks. How long would they, IRS, Dept of Ed, FAA, TSA, VA hospital staff etc. keep working without being paid?
And cr gives them this power too. Codifies current cuts, gives him more ability to spend money however he wants or doesn’t (protecting him from
Impoundment violations), strips congress of the ability to stop tariffs.
Yes, and?
Nobody has articulated why allowing America to experience the GOPs vision for the nation would be bad in the long run vs. continuing to insulate republican voters from the impact of their choices.
We know what's coming.
They still think the GOP is on their side.
This is a teachable moment
This country elected these treasonous fools. Not sure if I give a shit. Let em wreck the place if required. ‘We the people’ must allow the Judiciary to fail before we can invoke the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution🇺🇸⚖️fix this shit show. ‘No growth without pain’ the GOPz🇷🇺says, Ok that includes you !
No and Nos plan is to vote this down and then depend on us to raise Hell from coast-to-coast by phone, postcard, town halls, the streets so that we can at least fight back against the Putin boys. The other way codifies Trump/Musk tyranny.
This is why the Democrats are losing members. This rolling over for fear that the Republicans will do something even more terrible is abject capitulation. This admin thinks they don't have to follow any rules, and they will not stop if no one stands up to them. Shut it down.
@rachelbitecofer.bsky.social you are correct. In a shut down, our current cases get thrown out, he declares emergency which gives us no legal recourse. Voting to shut it down plays into djt’s small little hands. It’s placing all the power in the executive branch. Yall think he is gonna give that up?
I think you're right. Trump wanted to recess Congress so he could fill his cabinet without public hearings. Yes, they still got in, but we got to hear a lot of negative things about them. That helped to stir the pot. Now people are pissed and protesting. It wouldn't have been a normal shut down.
They're already doing that. Dems just cosigned it and gave the courts a reason not to rule against those actions. Because now they have congressional approval.
They are doing this already, without legal “permission!” Why in the world would Dems give them the actual legal permission to do so? That seems to be what this bill would do.
All those court cases Trump is losing because he's trying to do things granted to Congress in Article I of the Constitution would suddenly be deemed "ok" because there would be a law on the books stating otherwise.
Let’s not add any detours along Thelma and Louise’s road. The longer they have to slow themselves down and smarten up, the longer it’s gonna take to get everyday American’s attention and support required to end the regime.
Not sure how relevant that is to the folks being written off as acceptable losses in that maneuver, particularly given that no one believes Dems will fight at all.
It’s BS … assumes the government is never funded again, which is preposterous. Authorizations run out on things Republicans want, like military spending.
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Let these freaks deal with the shutdown as the markets melt down. Let them declare martial law, let's have the fight now rather than September
This is my fear.
If they decide they can unilaterally eliminate agencies, whether or not govt is in shutdown has nothing to do with it
Funding bill grants Trump, Musk more control over federal spending - WaPo
https://archive.ph/pP8vo#select...
The courts can catch up and stand their ground despite a shutdown and a clean CR can still be written that has guardrails for DOGE.
Impoundment violations), strips congress of the ability to stop tariffs.
Voting yes is giving permission for them to keep doing so.
Nobody has articulated why allowing America to experience the GOPs vision for the nation would be bad in the long run vs. continuing to insulate republican voters from the impact of their choices.
We know what's coming.
They still think the GOP is on their side.
This is a teachable moment
Collaborating with MAGA will not gain Democrats anything.
"All that money and you can't get a smile out of the guy with a crowbar"
https://youtu.be/RrYVxiH5Vqw?si=lsQcGvrynwwWiwGI
They just own their actions without being able to claim bipartisan support.
Next?
Fuck chuck