They literally filtered it out. I listened to a guy on CNNβs One Thing on Sunday who was a Dem who voted for Trump. Itβs like can he even hear what heβs saying? Then criticized Harris for things he gave Trump passes on. Misogyny. Thatβs the best explanation Iβve got.
No argument from me. In my eyes Project 2025 was enough to not vote for Trump, to say nothing of the litany of other utter garbage he says. Don't get me started on Musk hitching his wagon to Trump, however maybe they'll just both destroy each other in the process.
Every Trump supporter defaults to the economy as their reason because it is the complicated boogeyman that nobody understands and won't question them on. If you ask them simple economic questions, they will always widdle down to racism or sexism. Cognitive dissonance is a bitch.
Some voted because of Gaza, and chose the candidate who invited the leader of Israel to their home for a dinner party and personally guaranteed continued US support for their activities...
The more articles I read about the US Election result and the more interviews I listen to from people on the street (the normal ones), the more you get the feeling something was missing about Kamala Harris' campaign. Promises! Whether or not they're real promises, doesn't seem to matter.
Until people feel the pain of authoritarianism, they will never understand. Problem is, neither America nor the earth may survive their βeducation.β
Interesting mix of reasons for voting both AOC & Trump. Many see both as outsiders pushing for real change, especially for the working class. Shows how voters often prioritize action over party. It is definitely a sign of frustration with establishment politics.
I don't know what the problem is but that comicsands website you repeatedly link to with posts like these repeatedly crashes on my IOS phone, and also on my workstation browser (Win 11 Chrome). I want to read what you're sharing, but it's frustrating how buggy the site is. :(
This is a new one. So historically republicans have destroyed the economy for incoming democrats and then turned around and run on austerity and economic principles.
This time, Trump unleashed the SARS-CoV-2 virus, murdered 7 million people, then ran on the economic destruction it caused.
So none of these morons heard her talk about home buying assistance, child tax credits, loan forgiveness, elder home care, etc. She did so many interviews, podcasts etc. Walz was everywhere, give me a break with these dipshits
Sorry but those answers seem caught up in a mind field of disinformation- she actually had a policy, did interviews, was looking to get more money into peopleβs pockets - so am thinking it was right wing media screamed lies, MSM media repeated lies explaining how they were lies leaving voters lost.
This makes it clear that the message either wasn't clear or wasn't penetrating in the time they had. That's incredibly disheartening. They seem to only want change, but don't care what it is?
The Dems need to do this now..they need to find their strongest candidates and then reach out to conservatives so they can better address their concerns..
I'm honestly not sure the voters are bright enough to recognise someone addressing their adult problems. They are after the feel good of a High School Football game, a fraternity house party. They seem illequipped to apply critical thought, they want sound bites.
They should have never crushed Bernie when he was WINNING the nomination! They cut off there nose to spite their face and shut out millions of people with their hatred towards himπ
What a freaking strange group of yahoos & some enigma of wtf responses they made... Do these folks actually use their brain to form rational thoughts? C'mon, every time Kamala opened her mouth she talked about her policies & plans!! π π€‘ Has never formulated words or ideas past the 4th grade level.
Unfortunately, I now see us as an illusion of a big tent, in reality we are a group of smaller tents. While some will vote for anyone in the SWM tent, they will not vote for anyone in any of the other tents. Sorry but AOC does not live in the SWM tent.
Some will stay home or vote rep.
I would hope so, but the right has spent almost a decade calling her stupid and evil, and she is a woman of color. This country is misogynist and racist at its core.
The first female President will be Republican. Until conservatives make it "safe, " nobody on the left is likely to risk 3-out-of-3 losses with women candidates.
This is assuming Conservatives will allow us to run in 4 years, obviously.
Republicans will not elect a woman as their nominee. Even if they did many of us would not vote for a republican woman. Her policies will still be republican policies and I would think most of us vote on policies.
The only common element I noticed was βperceptionβ. To say that Kamala didn't have a plan for the economy, for example, when she had concrete proposals and the other only had βconceptions of a planβ is a very weak excuse.
No sorry still donβt get it, he is a felon, he openly talks about degrading women, he is openly a raciest and thinks republicans area dumb. You voted everyone else on ballot blue why not the presidentπ€¦ββοΈβοΈππ₯Ήπ§·
But this is the way to go: unless you figure out what the situation really is, for as grim as it looks, it is impossible to even think of a solution. Well done AOC.
No legitimate reason to vote for Trump (honestly what a joke) BUT some of the statements resonated with me. Democrats esp. the Senate Dems (cc @aoc.bsky.social @wyden.senate.gov etc...) are full of excuses and for a long fucking time now they've been ineffective in governing for US - they're voters!
For the past two years, I have blamed Congress and Mike Johnson for everything because they are the ones that govern our lives not the president, they refused to do anything to help us and block everything the Dems wanted to help us with.
I bet those Maga knew that this election was going to be shady and thatβs why they have been refusing to do anything. Mike knew Trump was going to win. Mike wants to be The American Pope Moses and force everyone to be Christian Nationalists. π Everyone π
I love the one that says, "Trump reached out to Muslims." Yup...and he's going to try and do that again, reach out and then kick them out.
I get the populist piece of some of the comments, but to just treat Trump as normal is insane, not to mention his economy killing policies.
Based on those comments, Democrat politicians in many districts will have to conclude that any ad, any speech and any placard or poster cannot contain words with more than 2 syllables. Plus the next Dem leader had better be fluent in Spanish!
Now she canβt help them. Your choices have consequences. If you donβt research, you get screwed. Hope they enjoy who they voted for because disaster awaits them. We tried to warm them.
Won't happen. Trump's going to dismantle the EPA so.... guess we should buy bookoo Brita filters while we can still get them. My neck hurts from shaking my head so much.
Oh, I think we'll vote. The real question is whether or not it will mean anything. The Russian people vote, and somehow Putin gets 75-80% while his actual opponents are always "accidentally" falling off balconies or bridges.
Wow..π l just don't know what to say. Some compared you to Trump..yikes! I am working class. l would never vote for Maga they represent billionaire class,snobbery,and vulgar cruelty. But
B/c l care about social issues as well. l feel like l am being punished.
What's terrible is that once things will start going sideways (tariffs leading to inflation, and relatives being deported, etc) Maga's gonna invent a way to blame Dems for it, and these idiots will believe it.
Come mid terms, the only reckoning will be for the Dems
Nobody asks βchange to what?β. Since Iβm alive, death would be a change. Would I vote for death? It is absurd that nobody is thinking past the headline.
When H5N1 avian flu mutates into a worse-than-COVID pandemic that is catastrophically mishandled and the combination of tariffs and deported labor sends consumer prices skyrocketing, some of the MAGAts might realize what their vote actually got them.
I did say "some." And you may have seen video of, or read about the people who are just now learning how tariffs work, and the Google searches for "Can I change my vote?"
Except, as we've just seen, low education/information voters carry the day. So really it's educated voting is a responsibility. Which seems to be a core assumption behind the US form of representative democracy.
Here's the Reason. I hate to be or seem crude but really this is it when the majority of the population has nothing higher than a sixth grade level education this is what you get. We need to teach civics in school.
The most recent, The Weekly Podcast, with Jon Stewart and his interview with Heather Cox Richardson is an interesting look at where we are and our history.
My head hurts. Again, this is misinformation and disinformation problem. Yet people who spread lies (most of them in the far right) will say βYou are violating my right to free speech by silencing me!β ay yay yay
This is proof that what we need from Democrats is progressive populism. They can't keep letting charismatic bigots pretend to represent the working class, they have to advocate for the working class themselves.
And that he's 'real'.
In what universe is the orange blob, nepo baby, millionaire, convicted felon, addled, Hitler worshipping idiot real?
I just cannot respect anyone who would vote for him. There are no reasons that make him acceptable.
Iβm a USMC vet and retired Autoworker and cannot fathom how many Veterans and UAW members vote for that clown . He said what he would like to do with the Union and be called Vets suckers and losers. What does it take to change their minds π€·ββοΈ
Watching FOX and Newsmax (and Sinclair) is addicting like a drug and dominate cable esp in rural areas. We have the house my parents retired to in rural VA. TV is right wing and religious. I had watched MSNBC on my iPad last time I was there.
Many of our fellow vets think that the GOP has our best interest at heart but they only listen to what the GOP says and not what they do.
Republicans fought tooth and nail trying to stop concurrent receipt for the disabled vets and they plan on doing away with it now but many only believe the talk.
I live with a "Marine" vet (He was dishonorable discharged and was in service during the 80s, he acts like he fought on D Day) who's hard down the Maga hole. My theory is those guys are the idiots who would die during a war but didn't and they had nothing else happened in their life
I think only the coming years will show them what a bad mistake they've made. It must be very frustrating to have risked your life for your country, only to see the majority make a decision like this.
I looked at the numbers in Florida, and there are more than a million Floridians who have to have voted for their abortion rights amendment AND voted for Trump. Which is nothing short of insane.
Yup. And the DNC was feckless enough to NOT have a parade of stiffed contractors telling their stories. They didn't point out how pissed most of the muslim world was when Donald supported moving the capitol of Israel to Jerusalem. Didn't hammer that we still don't know why he retained nuclear secret
Wait? Harris had no policies for the economy? Did we watch the same speeches. Minimum wage increase. Policy to stop price gouging. Policy to help new families financially. Policy to help small businesses get going. How in the hell are any of those not policies for the economy?
Honestly. My take on this isn't just focusing on the painful ignorance. Governments have stopped getting the job done. Electioneering has become everything to them. It's obvious some voters believe, that anyone who's far from the median, is just a better choice. "Nothing to lose." But yet they do. π
Even if parts are complete bs, she is putting in the work. No recrimination, no shaming, and ulterior motive. Even though Dems had a stronger ground game, the perception is as stated in the comments. Dems aren't meeting people where they are. It's not enough to tell people. Show them.
Sorry, but the "my goodness, why didn't they research?" replies in response to this could have been posted back in 2016. We knew going in that most voters don't do much research. These are people that saw AOC/Trump promising change and Harris promising to "stay the course."
It was a bad PR campaign
I don't believe for a moment that a single interview would have saved her campaign, but skipping the Rogan interview perfectly encapsulated a decade's worth of bad strategy. Whoever told her to skip it was a bigger moron than Rogan. Up there with whoever told her to dial back attacks on megacorps.
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Kamala was the only candidate with detailed policies!
There wasn't an option on the ballot for people who wanted to stop supplying arms to Israel. Both parties told those people to get fucked and die.
When you can no longer support the activities of the government in good conscious, don't.
people thinking AOC & trump are similar
irony is dead
"Think of the stupidest person you know. Half the population is more stupid than them."
Think of the stupidest person you know. 75% of all people are as or more stupid than that. Unfortunately that number includes all of us, too.
Sorry, that's glib and incomplete, but it is most of the answer.
Nobody likes the duopoly. The DNC insists on pushing candidates who are owned by it.
That earned me some looks after the election, but I live in Wellington, NZ now. I saw this coming 20 years ago and moved.
https://medium.com/@bj.chippindale/owned-3a5602124f7b
The press, and the media, are not trusted for good reason. Honest, important and complete news is not profitable.
Real money represents work done and is limited by the laws of Thermodynamics.
Our money represents debt with interest and is limited by our gullibility.
http://firstmakeitwork.org/2023/09/16/making-money-real/
This time, Trump unleashed the SARS-CoV-2 virus, murdered 7 million people, then ran on the economic destruction it caused.
WOW.
One is facts and understanding. One is disinformation and misogyny
Some will stay home or vote rep.
This is assuming Conservatives will allow us to run in 4 years, obviously.
"But also you signified change. Trump signified change. I've said lately, Trump sounds more like you."
"Stop acting like us maga people are the ones with the disinformation problem. Insane."
Fuck every last one of these fascist, rapist loving twits.
I get the populist piece of some of the comments, but to just treat Trump as normal is insane, not to mention his economy killing policies.
"Because you are both the same, you both talk a big game, but don't actually improve anything"
https://bsky.app/profile/aoc.bsky.social/post/3laphlq244g23
B/c l care about social issues as well. l feel like l am being punished.
Come mid terms, the only reckoning will be for the Dems
May they have the life they voted for
When H5N1 avian flu mutates into a worse-than-COVID pandemic that is catastrophically mishandled and the combination of tariffs and deported labor sends consumer prices skyrocketing, some of the MAGAts might realize what their vote actually got them.
You are talking about people who thought hurricanes were "sent against them by Biden"
Can we address this huge Problem Now?
And it took 40 years to get rid of them....
IMO Trump does not care for the people, unless youβre rich.
https://www.npr.org/2024/11/12/g-s1-33899/trump-mike-huckabee-ambassador-israel-evangelical-gaza-hamas-war
GOD HELP USA.
Commences 48-hour Netflix bingeβ¦
In what universe is the orange blob, nepo baby, millionaire, convicted felon, addled, Hitler worshipping idiot real?
I just cannot respect anyone who would vote for him. There are no reasons that make him acceptable.
Republicans fought tooth and nail trying to stop concurrent receipt for the disabled vets and they plan on doing away with it now but many only believe the talk.
It's like the sheep voting the wolf that's going to slaughter them.
Listened to some Hawkwind.
Luv from me and the wife old boy π
I said you aren't seeing it. He argued. Now I realize I was right, it wasn't getting through.
It was a bad PR campaign