The Fox News indoctrination worked, it's still working, controversy over transgender competitors in women's soccer for instance distracts people from the more sinister aspects of Trump Mark 2
It's just mind boggling how many people ACTUALLY believe a KNOWN pathological LIAR! It's like once Trump would DENY something the MEDIA would just drop it, yet they NEVER did the same for Hunter Biden, Biden's AGE or ANYTHING a Democrat would DENY!😠
The mainstream media has a HUGE PART in handing over Trump a win. They REFUSED TO TALK about this except as a diversion. All while knowing people worked in his administration and directly commented on him. People not caring and a complicity media helped fascism in 2024.
And now we can support true journalism. There's 23 million of us here, we can be a human network sharing stories that matter. Fact checking in real time
There's lots of independent journalists & explicitly Leftist journalists & media in the community we can follow & support
Need to use source material, not media or other people's talking points. Need to be honest, even if it doesn't fit the narratives we wish to believe. The truth will set you free and freedoms is something that scares those that seek to control us.
Source material? You meant observations? Project 2025 had authors in the Trump administration. He claimed he did not know about it. He wins and then puts them in offices in his cabinet. What more do we need to hear on source material?
Have you read the actually text or was it disseminated to you? There are actually some decent ideas in there although I also understand why some are justified in their worries about others. I am trying to remain optimistic. We control our own feelings, or at least that should be the goal.
Have you? What are 'some decent ideas'? Eliminating departments and not replacing them with actual government? Forming the president to go around Congress and given more power to elect reps? I can see RIGHT NOW he is not going through the transition so he can hide money expenditures.
Nah, I like to engage for a post or two and prove two things about most Republicans. They patronize for 'not knowing' and having nothing specific they can list. They will assume a bar for one person, excuses the bar for another. Once I see that I mute and move on, but leave a trail of shit to see
Project 2025, once it went viral, was also heavily censored on reddit. We tried making threads about it in every sub where it was pertinent (like the veterans sub, since it goes after the VA) but hostile mods took them down and they were also mass reported at 2AM EST (8AM moscow?)
Are MAGA voters smarter than the Left? I've seen major posters here blame Harris moving too far center for her loss. If so, MAGA was smart enough to know Trump was saying what he had to say to get elected while left wing dems were staying home, angry for Harris doing the same.
Kind of a catch 22 there. Because they are not smart enough to understand lying, they voted for Trump. If they were smart enough they wouldn't. It's very painful to say but most MAGA cannot see reality they are told that everything NON Trump is a lie.
Excellent point and I'm surprised by how few people get this. I read several posts on FB by Republicans, mostly moderate, who said, "No, Trump had nothing do with P25. Stop trying to push a leftwing talking point!" The GOP, moderate and MAGA, believed Trump instead of investigating for themselves.
My ex friend is maga. Treasury secretary of local republikkkan chapter. In JUNE I asked her what she thought about P2025 and she had no clue about it! I knew about it last Sept. maggots are truly an indoctrinated cult.
Of course they will. But you know that already so you'll be prepared. Seems what MAGA, including Trump, hate most is being ignored. Good place to start😁
The sad part of this George is that the vast majority of his followers have no idea what project 2025 is, and even if they knew they wouldn't mind. Until it starts to affect them, which will be too late, "But how could we have known?"
Maga = Liars
Our Supreme Court “conservatives” lied to get on the bench as well. Fascism means criminals are in charge. Criminals lie to cover up their crimes and their intentions.
Let's not insult the criminal class here. Some of my most trusted allies are pro-crime in word & deed. The people you're talking about are far worse than criminals. They are businessmen & politicians, & they are not to be trusted.
Your headline is more accurate! Amazing the mass media didn’t report this when Kamala & Tim warned about Project2025. Now they want to act as though it’s new. So much for informing the public.
Who is we exactly? The minority who didn’t elect Donald? Maybe a better headline should read “America has chosen project 2025, the lesser of two evils” get over it
EVERYONE knew trump was lying. it's the ONLY thing he knows. and while the entire country (and world) will suffer, those targeted in #Project2025 and failed to vote for Dems are about to really reap what they sowed.
Why? Why in the world would anyone believe anything that donald trump says, ever? Like, eighteen of his former staff helped write Project 2025. He was pals with Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation, and he was filmed thanking them for their outline for the next trump presidency.
When Trump threatened papers like the NYT, he scared them into submission. Now they think they'll be safe if he ends up 'going Putin' on journalists when in fact someone like Trump holds a grudge forever. They just carry water for the person who might be their undoing.
What's mind boggling is the mental gymnastics his supporters will go through to somehow justify this or deny completely what is right in front of their faces.
Occam's razor applies here. If sound is coming from Trump's Pie Hole, he's lying.
He even lies when the truth would be more beneficial to him. He's mentally ill and evil.
Life-long Republicans will follow, even though their party has been dissolved. There was a coup, with MAGA replacing the Republican party. Many former Republicans are pledging loyalty to an entity that no longer exists.
Shocked! Shocked, I say... Of all the lies ever told in the Pantheon of Orange 🍊, this was so obviously going to be such that it should surprise only the Rogan followers still looking for all the dragons.
A good portion of Proj. 25 is based on making sure no one but far right oligarchs will ever be able to run the country again, so unless something changes we’re doomed to it for more than four years.
This guy looks miserable, sexually frustrated, and hateful. Not somebody I'd want having anything to do with the laws governing my country and my freedom. Ever. All that's missing is the SS uniform.
We know everyone knew he was lying except for MAGA, it was all over "the Dems are lying he isn't part of it." Problem is they agree w/most of it & if they don't agree w/parts they can be sheep & for the greater good of MAGA. Just think Project 2025 has two parts and only one part is published. Scary
All they care about is stopping the country from getting browner. They don't want to be the minority....and they'll do ANYTHING to avoid that...even electing a liar.
USBC
The Caucasian population is 83%.
Of the Continental United States.
Seems perhaps far to many "white" are living in non-Caucasian district that have low self esteem.
Knuckle Dragging Numbnuts.
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Yea but if they had done their job the first time they would not get to make as much money over the next four years selling us papers informing us of the chaos as people are terrified. Calm and competent does not sell as many papers. You would want them to let their shareholders down do you?
Trump lies yes he does he is a chronic liar. He won the election. Trump is a unfunny joke on the gay issue but obviously Harris would have been better for the gays.
The problem is that the people who voted for Trump are stick-bone, stone-swamp, gator-ass stupid. Whatever reason they voted for him, they will now reap the whirlwind. Sadly, so will the rest of us
I dont agree with Maga/ Trump, but are you against the media sharing information about opinions different than ours? How does that work in what is intended to be unbiased reporting?
I don’t think it’s about being against sharing opinions different than ours and more so them making excuses for him, sane washing him, or not speaking critically of how dangerous he was. While equally comparing Kamala to him and holding her to an exponentially higher standard at the same time.
I hear you. Excuses, sane washing, not okay but showing the potential outcomes of his actions are definitely appropriate. Money talks more than ethics sadly.
I agree with showing what the potential outcomes would be. I have a NYT subscription still and unfortunately, I don’t feel like they’ve really accomplished that either. There had been a lot of criticism about Kamala and her campaign and I have seen virtually nothing critical written about Trump.
Yes, he is basically mob connected. I only watch MSNBC as main media because there are some honest reporters. We will see what happens there. Meidas Touch left bias but great information and many other channels are great if mainstream fails us. Plenty of critical facts on Trump there.
What?!? Oh my gosh?!? This is can’t be!?? ……. Obviously 🙄 he is Hitler and even people who don’t keep up with this shit know he is an evil lying POS. If you’re shocked you clearly think reading and research is hard. I’ll pray for you
It is amazing to me how the national media never used the word lie. There were some exceptions, however, for the most part they used weak words like false statements etc.
So did the Fact Checkers who knew that he was lying the whole time yet condemned those who said that he was lying as liars. I am not waiting for the apologies or expecting them to admit that they knew all along. But they did.
I cancelled my nyt subscription an couple months ago due to this shit. They skirt around saying what they mean and then don't understand why people are misinformed. 😒 Pretty stupid for a bunch of, what I would assume to be, otherwise intelligent people.
Our useless mass media was complicit in getting him elected back in 2016 and the lies, free-passes and corruption only continued in 2024.
And let's be clear, this is NOT just Fox or other known right wing propaganda outlets. All our mass media is shit and has a very obvious pro-Republican stance.
Anyone who believed that particular lie, is willingly doing so, or they're going to believe ANY lie as there was a Mount Everest sized pile of facts, evidence, witnesses, video, audio, and photo evidence to the contrary.
Former reporter here: to say “lie” you have to know for certain that he thought nothing but said another. To say “disavow” is to observe actions. You end up having to defend “lie” and you can’t prove it without written documentation etc.
Another former reporter here: saying “lie” requires insight into personal motivations. I can’t prove someone lied. I can prove they’re wrong and that’s it.
I agree that there is no way that trump won all the swing states. They just had a recount here in Washoe County NV. Harris won the county. And all these bullet ballots make no sense. We need to recount everywhere!
Yep, saw this coming from a mile away. Dealing with Trump and his cult is like dealing with toddlers, dangerous, delusional diaper wearing toddlers but toddlers all the same.
The truth is the Media, in almost all cases, never truly showed how corrupt and evil tRump really is. All of the lies, can't say misinformation, they were lies, and the media didn't call him out for lying. Continually allowed and perpetuated the BS.
That's because if they show the true extent of how corrupt and evil he is, people wouldn't vote for him. And the success of the media hinges on having stories to write about. That's why all mainstream media sources are complicit in everything that happens in the next 4 years imo.
Can't believe I'm actually entertaining canceling my subscription, but it's becoming more likely by the day. The Gray Lady stands for what, now? I fear the emperor has no clothes.
The choice today for any self-respecting news organization worthy of the name - let alone the "paper of record," with its vaunted reputation - is to rise to the occasion or capitulate. I would prefer to see the NYT show some mettle and integrity rather than join the very crowded race to the bottom.
Puppets to love or get mad at, to make them step down and think "now" things will change. Look back from 50years from now, we only lost!
We know a select group rules it all, behind the scenes never elected, but always outside the blame or spotlights. continuing a agenda that has been set long ago!
Trump/MAGA/GOP is one big lie, the country is to be run by rich carpetbaggers, sexual predators, racists and religious lunatics. Greed and fascism have won, bye bye democracy and any genuine freedom you have left. If Latino males are strong supporters of Trump/MAGA then you get what you deserve.
Rubio is set to become the first sitting US secretary of state to have been sanctioned by Beijing, raising the question of whether he will even be able to visit China as the top US diplomat.
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Or is Clone doing all work?
*shifts? Who gets overtime*
There's lots of independent journalists & explicitly Leftist journalists & media in the community we can follow & support
Let’s actually call him out and hold him publicly accountable for every lie…
Our Supreme Court “conservatives” lied to get on the bench as well. Fascism means criminals are in charge. Criminals lie to cover up their crimes and their intentions.
BAD decision to go to the right
Lefty all the way to the BANK!
Not hardly! 🙄
https://www.cf.org/news/musk-floats-slashing-irs-budget-regulatory-agency/
They lie for him
He's a mob boss. Only way to take him out is with RICO. He gets other people to do his dirty work for him
He even lies when the truth would be more beneficial to him. He's mentally ill and evil.
We were right again. Good for us.
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All they care about is stopping the country from getting browner. They don't want to be the minority....and they'll do ANYTHING to avoid that...even electing a liar.
Cubans get cash assistance govt healthcare,work papers and citizenship.
MAGAs don't care because Cubans mostly present as white. Trump won't go near the Cuban Adjustment Act tho.
The Caucasian population is 83%.
Of the Continental United States.
Seems perhaps far to many "white" are living in non-Caucasian district that have low self esteem.
Knuckle Dragging Numbnuts.
🇮🇪🇪🇺
President Elon with Donald Trump at Mat A Lago #ElonVonShitzInPants
#PresidenElonX
I hope one day we can have an honest society.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17X1j29DISIVyGBNa8LdFzqo8GOOD4U_x4GI1IbCSSW4/edit?tab=t.0
https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/share/
TRUMP IS A LIAR.
Everytime he opens his mouth.
They helped install a dictator with their “both sides-ism”.
His lips move.
However, I own my beautiful home that's paid for. How about you pumpkin?
And let's be clear, this is NOT just Fox or other known right wing propaganda outlets. All our mass media is shit and has a very obvious pro-Republican stance.
Anyone who believed that particular lie, is willingly doing so, or they're going to believe ANY lie as there was a Mount Everest sized pile of facts, evidence, witnesses, video, audio, and photo evidence to the contrary.
We know a select group rules it all, behind the scenes never elected, but always outside the blame or spotlights. continuing a agenda that has been set long ago!
Rubio is set to become the first sitting US secretary of state to have been sanctioned by Beijing, raising the question of whether he will even be able to visit China as the top US diplomat.
The 🍊🤡 was running from prison and corporate media is a big factor (along with Xitter) in his narrow win.
The Fourth Estate has crumbled and is not only
Now that they're "in the money" for the next four years, it will get worse and devolve into blatant propaganda and reality TV theatrics.
Boycott Corp. media and find true journalists for NEWS!