Pursuing the leftist vote at the cost of the Jewish vote would not have resulted in leftists suddenly bothering to vote for Harris in numbers five times greater than those who actually voted for Jill Stein.
Harris would have been decimated even worse than she was in such a scenario.
Exactly. And AP's poll the week before the election should have made it clear to the liars that the Dem party was split on the issue (six out of ten). Lunatics and liars like Amy Goodman presented a false reality and depressed voter turnout -- as they intended.
Isn't she the person we all told that if she follows Bidens policy of materially and unquestioningly supporting netanyahu's war crimes against the Palestinians she would lose the election?
Obama was right when he campaigned on getting the money out of politics. Then he realized that he was raking in the most corporate money so the Dems flushed that idea down the toilet.
I'm really sorry for you, and 1/3 of the US population.
But the rest are getting exactly what they deserve.
I only wish it was possible to spare you folks.
Actually, Bernie Sanders told us in 2015 (and about two decades before) that Trump would allow full oligarchic control and seek to be an authoritarian. Unfortunately the DNC was controlled by the Clintons and they sabotaged the most popular candidate.
And yet the democrats apparently had NO PLAN to counter anything even when they had the playbook for project 2025, and kept saying they knew it would get used. Why should we trust them at all if they didn't plan for this both before and after election day? Worthless.
An aircraft carrier collided with a merchant ship in the Mediterranean Sea a few hours ago. How did another ship get that close to an air craft carrier? What is happening?
An aircraft carrier collided with a merchant ship in the Mediterranean Sea a few hours ago. How did another ship get that close to an air craft carrier? What is happening?
Too bad about Biden, Gaza, and Kamala's unwillingness to distance herself from Netanyahu's ethnic cleansing war.
>25% of voters who voted for Biden SAT OUT the November election.
Yeah, but where are they now? Where are our leaders? Why aren't they out there making speeches, talking at universities, encouraging the people to take steps to try and stop what's coming?
Trump, as big a cunt that he is. He's equally being a cunt to Palestine as Ukraine. He supports aggressors and power men more than justice, u like the rest of the western world, who's hatred of Palestinians make them support Israel.
At this point, I hope she runs for Governor of CA and we join Canada. With treasonous cabinet confirmations, we’ve lost our independence to Russia. And the MAGOP tsunami of white supremacist corruption has our allies so alarmed, they’re finding alternatives and will never trust us again.
The most shameful simplification I can say is people chose a career corrupt shyster felon over someone who clearly knew where felons belonged and put them there.
Instead you have the far left, who has explained about the same issue for 16 years and still somehow haven’t come up a response to win primaries, telling us that they will win the general election. Dem establishment is both ineffective but also an insurmountable wall that can’t be scaled.
They have come up with several responses, which have been shut down, misrepresented and violently suppressed by both democrats and republicans, who insist on their corporate friendly genocidal ghouls like KKKamala, regardless of their deplorability and/or their obvios incapacity to win elections.
It’s been 16 years, if the far left still can’t win just 10-20% of the Democratic leaning House Seats then the problem isn’t the Dem establishment anymore.
The problem is the far left has too much hubris to actually win elections and do voter outreach.
They showed her and Doug at last week's Lakers game when one of the announcers said, "Let me start off by saying I'm a fan. I wish she wasn't here tonight." As in he wished SHE was in the White House.
Conservatives suck, but our main issue is primarily white people who can afford to play Progressive and/or who pretend that they're "holding Democrats accountable" by not voting Democrat, and then bitching when very little progress is made, and/
/flocking to any two-bit grifter who confirms their ignorance and gives them someone to blame. It's literally the only reason that despite being a lying sack of shit, Bernie Sanders was popular enough to be worth mentioning in 2016 and 2020.
And what did you do to help the people of Gaza? People you're so apparently worried about that you don't even listen to the people in Gaza who said they'd prefer Harris? Too busy pretending to be a savior?
Had we gotten a different result in the elections, she is able to be reasoned with and we would have had a stable government to work with. But yes, tell me how he was the better option. You can't free other people if you're fighting for your own.
Also, she could not be reasoned with about Gaza, she has been committed to the illegal occupation of Israel since she was a child, and has confirmed that in her speeches consistently. She could not be reasoned with on genocide.
No one is free until everyone I free. Our liberation is interconnected. She was a centrist at best, and I would have preferred to organize under her but everyone is acting like she would have save everyone, forever. We need to stop putting politicians on a pedestal and start doing the work.
Well NC wasn’t rigged for sure. We elected a huge cabinet of blue folks. In fact we got a whiny pissbaby who keeps trying to steal the election of our liberal judge who on TWO recounts was declared the rightful winner
Yes, she was right. And the Dems put in a fair effort at avoiding where we are now. But they failed. And they show no signs of learning from the reasons they failed. If there is any way out of the mess we're in now (and I'm not sure there is), it is not by relying on the Democratic Party of the US.
It’s the only thing that gives me pleasure in all of this. That and watching the morons that voted for the shit show we are in do mental gymnastics to justify their vote for the orange fuhrer.
The problem is that the sheep still believe. I've seen multiple posts today from acquaintances that are backing and believing everything the new administration is doing, including reposting Russian disinformation. We know its bad, but the sheep are still following blindly.
Yeah, that's right Kamala. Maybe you shouldn't have thrown the Palestinians under the bus, you moron.
And also, maybe you shouldn't have had a campaign being a Biden 2.0.
And maybe your idiotic Ukraine policy wasn't so smart either...
Every day now I am more deeply saddened at the loss of what could have been. I am also more convinced that Musk and others did actually rig this election. He is certainly behaving and being treated like someone that is owed more than “thanks for support”.
She may have, as had others. Could she have run her campaign on a more grass roots level (how much did it cost to rent the Los Vegas Sphere?) setting up ride share for election day etc., I would respect her more.
Reading shit like this makes me wonder how some of you have manged to make it into adulthood, this is real "I have to think about breathing" mental energy.
He's fuckin right though. She ran a crappy campaign. Or rather, she let the DNC run a bag campaign. Nobody should be posting memes with her in it. I know GT is ancient, but someone more in touch should steer him clear of the out of touch, cringey stuff like this.
Harris needs to disappear.
She lost the popular vote by less than 2% . You chucklefucks tried the same shit with Hilary "She needs to disappear", no you disingenuous losers need disappear.
Bomb threats, republican sabotage, outright cheating, and "progressives" repeating right wing lies fucked the rest of us over.
It's too bad VR isn't more popular, campaign ads could replicate the reality that we are facing since it's really difficult for people to adequately conceptualize it before it actually happens.
#FAFO I'm apathetic to the whole shit show now. Spending my time and money abroad is my way of dealing. Closed 60+ businesses laid off 400 employees this shitshow of a government gets nothing from me
Diaper-Boy telegraphed his actions years ago if you were paying attention, packing the fed judiciary with nazi/KLAN types as well. You could see it from space it was so obvious.
What's the purpose of this type of messaging?
Because it doesn't seem to aim to accomplish anything, except to be petty and attack the grassroots that warned that dems wouldn't get the vote out without changing course.
I am a little sore that she hasn't been pounding the streets and leading some action against this tyranny. But I'm very sore that NO ONE has so it's not just on Kamala.
I hate to say it George, but the dems did a piss poor job of getting the country ready. They should have prosecuted Trump much faster, shuttered Fox News as complicit in J6, and packed the court before the executive powers decision.
Obviously the core of the blame is with those that did the illegal acts. But that doesn't mean that others didn't fail to hold them accountable. Our Justice System was an absolute failure. People doing stupid shit left and right causing delays and giving Trump's idiots ammo to kick the can.
Sure. Garland was a massive whiff in hindsight. I'm not denying that. But it also doesn't matter at this point. We're in the situation now and the problem is the people doing the illegal actions, not what any Dem or GOP failed to do in the past. And we need to focus on the limited options we have.
I'm not sure there are any options left now via the courts or Congress. He controls the DoJ with a loyalist that will never enforce anything. I don't see how any court order would ever be obeyed or how he could be removed via Impeachment now. I think we are now a dictatorship.
So far the courts are mainly siding with the Constitution at least. The issue is going to be when (and its already happening) the administration ignores the court orders. How to they get enforced and who stands up for the rule of law. At least the Army has already pushed back on trans-hate.
Unfortunately you seem to be missing the bigger picture. When we get past this point in history it will become part of history and what led us here will be taught to future generations. Just how we can see echos of 1930s Germany today in America, one day our grandkids will hopefully do better.
And we can worry about that history once we deal with the current crisis. Triage and prioritize and what’s important now isn’t what happened in the past.
Sure. But it would also be foolish for anyone to put their hopes in the Democrats to make anything better. The party put all their faith into the strength of institutions, integrity of the system. That failed spectacularly, but they're STILL doing it. They are no help in our current situation.
I'm not going to completely disagree with that. But I am going to ask, what could they be doing right now that they're not actually doing to result in these things not happening in the long run? They need to completely overhaul their communication strategy about what's happening, but to stop it?
One thing they could be doing is overhauling the party platform. The kinder, gentler capitalism they've relied on in the past failed miserably in 2016 and even more spectacularly in 2024. They got pasted on all levels. But they're still business as usual on that front. No sign of change.
No it must be on both. There were obvious moves that could have been made. This is Biden's, Garland's, McConnell's fault. This is what posterity will record. Neville Chamberlain will be forever associated with appeasement, and so will they.
Oh, sure. Absolutely none of the blame goes to the party that consistently ignores and talks down to its own constituents, refuses to call a spade a spade or challenge the Reps in any substantive way, and willingly handed the country over to fascists.
It must be acknowledged that there were those who could have taken action and didn't. If we actually get a redo here, those that want the power to hold people accountable must actually be willing to use it or be shamed forever. We all trusted the DoJ and judicial to fix what we couldn't.
You couldn't be further from the truth, I'm just tired of the circular firing squad instead of actually focusing on who's responsible for actually breaking laws and what actions we can take right now to stop it (which aren't many, sadly). But you do you.
So what's the goal here?
Destroy Dem Party & then?
Think you'll have voters & funding (you reject all "big" donors) to defeat the robots that vote GOP even when they HATE their nominee?
You're delusional.
That horseshoe becoming a circle is dangerous & makes me question your motives.
I have a few more ideas.
1) Take a stance against terror state Israel, and don't throw the Palestinian children under the bus
2) Distance itself from the idiotic dead-end policy on Ukraine that Biden pursued.
3) Perhaps have a program that highlights how life becomes more affordable in the US.
As an aside, surely packing the court would have been pointless and just encouraged Trump/Elon to add another x-times Nazis to it? Again, too little too late to point this out, but surely all judges should be scrupulously non-partisan (let alone just scrupulous!)?
When people talk about the things that 'should' have been done, they forget the counters to those things. Or how they could make things worse. While I agree not prosecuting Trump earlier because they were hoping he'd go away was dumb, they couldn't help it didn't really work when he was prosecuted
I agree things can always get worse. TBH prosecuting Trump matters nought. The neo-fascists have had 40+ years to plan this coup,as such it's going really "well" for them. If Trump wasn't there it would've been another. Bit like discussions about killing baby Hitler, that wouldn't've stopped WWII
It's not productive talking about what should have been done. What should have been done was people should have showed up to vote. But they didn't. That's what no one talks about. It's not the people who voted for him.. it's the ones that refused to show up to make sure he didn't gain power again.
In retrospect you are absolutely correct. Every other advanced democratic economy has little hesitation prosecuting corrupt politicians (even heads of government). However, what's to be done now, since the entire system is tainted and corrupted and the former co-equal branches rendered impotent.
You'd think after 4 years of them calling 47 a Nazi that maybe the Dems would have been prepared to do anything meaningful to fight back against authoritarianism. But then again I thought they wouldn't try to run an extremely unpopular candidate if it was so serious. Smdh.
Because you play the game. It's strategy. Better to have a nut on our side than him making deals with and helping the other side win. Which is exactly what happened. He came to the Dems first. They laughed him off. Who is laughing now?
Make a deal with a nut? He brought nothing to either side. The only reason he’s where he’s at is bc he kissed trumps ass and his ideas appealed to fucking morons like trump and his idiot minion antivaxxers.
And that non-strategy loses. We lost. And until Dems learn to play the game, we will keep losing. Making excuses is not productive. No one likes what's happening. But Dems were caught flat footed with no plan, and here we are. Swearing and complaining isn't helpful. Thanks for your thoughts.
You mean the person upon whom we pinned all our hopes, and then disappeared, never uttered a peep abt Russian bomb threats, bullet votes, never demanded a hand recount…nothing?
Let's not pretend that President Biden was not the first to be VERY CLEAR about the dangers of a second Trump presidency. That's not a slight to Vice President Harris, but the truth. We seem to want to forget that we kicked the man to the curb who brought us back from the brink for being unfit.
She and many others around the world knew exactly what Trump was for decades. Kamala, who only served the people, knew he is a con artist full of crap. So Americans chose crap.
You can’t say you didn’t know.
I can proudly say with great pleasure, Kamala you are right!!!
Just wonder how the vote would go now with all Trump has done or has threaten to do so far? You can thank right winged media for the propaganda of getting people to vote for Trump and also thank the 11 million who sat home from voting!
Us Canadians can't stop laughing at this shit. Not like cause it's funny. We'll it's a little funny cause we fucking told you so but mainly nervous laughter cause what the fuck else can we do from here to fix your crazy man problem. We're just trying to keep the crazy on your side. Preparing 4 bad🇨🇦
dumbfounded by maggats. dumb is the operative word here
we all tried to tell them. they will learn the hard way and our job now is to survive long enough to pick up the pieces and try to restore what’s left of our democracy 😢
So what are you Americans doing now to protect democracy? Or what are the Democrats doing other than watching in shock and tears? You have a responsibility.
She caused it by saying she would do things exactly like Biden, the most aipac compromised politician in office. Almost any other strategy beyond we're going to fund the genocide till Bibi feels good would've gotten her elected. She also conceded instead of challenging the votes, soo...
So the guy who isn't following the laws and wants to wipe Palestine completely off the map so he can build casinos and hotels is an improvement on what Biden did?
It's literally the same plan sped up. And the orange buffoon is too much a psychopath to know he should be ashamed and do it stealthily. But they were auctioning off Palestinian land in New York City while Biden was president. The same fucking plan.
Because she was such a bad candidate. With the only vision of continuing the genocide in Gaza and doing everything the same as Biden. What no one wanted. People didn’t want to vote for her.
Blame the racist who voted for the Rapist.
And blame the Democrats for being awful Democrats.
When the dnc makes the Selection they do not win the Election. Keep making excuses for their corruption. We've seen it twice now. But you had JOY and pussy hats.
Elon Musk in charge of government efficiency? Sure, let’s scrap the IRS via X-post, make Congress a subscription service, and let an AI chatbot decide Supreme Court cases.
That was also awful. Terrible! My real issue is that nobody opposed Israel so we didn’t have a choice. Harris however does believe in the rule of law (prosecuter) and would have protected women’s right to bodily autonomy.
People absolutely did oppose Isreal, and they sent the cops to beat them. Do You not remember the student protesters and the thousands of people marching through the streets? they ignored those people and called them antisemitic.
so you voted for the rapist felon who wants to ship all the Palestinians out, (those who haven't been starved or murdered), and develop Gaza as the Riviera?
you signed their death sentence.
Any Democratic nominee would’ve said the same thing. Conversely, perhaps any other democratically chosen nominee would have been elected and we would not be so f———. I still feel cheated.
It does makle even less pleasure to have not seen her speaking out or taking any leadership against the fascist takeover. The Dems higher ranks are so weak and disappointing. They could disappear into thin air now and no one would see any difference.
I don't think she had a good answer on what she was going to do in government and why she cares. I hate trump but she was a weak candidate. Thats said from a far the USA is a mess, who knew how fragile it was, there is a dictator sitting in the oval office...and its not activated anything.
She and about 50 million of us were screaming as loud as we could that this would be the end of America, so what happened? It's not the Dems or the Dem messaging, it's the power of the right wing propaganda machine reaching negligent voters who don't listen to real news. This above all.
It gives me no pleasure to say that Trump didn’t elect himself. That’s on the Harris and the Dems. If you don’t design and sell a contract between the centre and the left - and the sane elements of the soft right - you lose. Let’s not do that again, assuming there’s a second chance.
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Harris would have been decimated even worse than she was in such a scenario.
Nope, we were looking for the politicians who would actually stand up for, and represent, the interests of the poor and working class.
Neither party delivered on that.
Can anyone explain to me why Dems seem so surprised that Republicans are doing what we were warned they would do?
Why they did absolutely nothing to prepare for it?
But the rest are getting exactly what they deserve.
I only wish it was possible to spare you folks.
(and the people who didn't vote at all knew this would happen and didn't care)
She would've have been a great president!
If you have (and I really hope you will) another election, I hope people will have learned their lesson.
We did not need Kamala to tell us this.
The writing was on the wall.
>25% of voters who voted for Biden SAT OUT the November election.
Trump, as big a cunt that he is. He's equally being a cunt to Palestine as Ukraine. He supports aggressors and power men more than justice, u like the rest of the western world, who's hatred of Palestinians make them support Israel.
Fuck the global west
It’s been 16 years, if the far left still can’t win just 10-20% of the Democratic leaning House Seats then the problem isn’t the Dem establishment anymore.
The problem is the far left has too much hubris to actually win elections and do voter outreach.
The Democrats need to start listening to people like Bernie and AOC, the ones who actually saw this coming
But no she had to have some restraint and decorum
Did they all flee the country & leave us here to fight the insanity?
Conservatives suck, but our main issue is primarily white people who can afford to play Progressive and/or who pretend that they're "holding Democrats accountable" by not voting Democrat, and then bitching when very little progress is made, and/
Saddened.
https://x.com/casey_clemmons/status/844732315653869572
And she just walked away without questioning whether the swing state votes were rigged (little X says they were).
She is all disappointment to me.
(With all due respect, George.)
Having no-one believe your predictions is an ancient curse. Just ask Cassandra.
And also, maybe you shouldn't have had a campaign being a Biden 2.0.
And maybe your idiotic Ukraine policy wasn't so smart either...
Great pushback.
Great resistance.
Very demure
Harris needs to disappear.
Bomb threats, republican sabotage, outright cheating, and "progressives" repeating right wing lies fucked the rest of us over.
We need leaders to take command of the #Resistance
Until then find a safe space and sit tight!
Dems need to blame themselves and useless DNC.
Because it doesn't seem to aim to accomplish anything, except to be petty and attack the grassroots that warned that dems wouldn't get the vote out without changing course.
#KamalaHarris2028
#NextFemalePresident
Otherwise we will never have the numbers.
So I'm still looking for the "both" here. I see no blame being put on the people ACTUALLY DOING IT.
Libtards please shut up forever
And again, still no blame being put on the people taking the actions.
It’s okay to blame everyone who’s at fault
Destroy Dem Party & then?
Think you'll have voters & funding (you reject all "big" donors) to defeat the robots that vote GOP even when they HATE their nominee?
You're delusional.
That horseshoe becoming a circle is dangerous & makes me question your motives.
1) Take a stance against terror state Israel, and don't throw the Palestinian children under the bus
2) Distance itself from the idiotic dead-end policy on Ukraine that Biden pursued.
3) Perhaps have a program that highlights how life becomes more affordable in the US.
We have to do something...Now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2THgnbpgsM
#TakeAmericaBack
You can’t say you didn’t know.
I can proudly say with great pleasure, Kamala you are right!!!
Not yet, at any rate...
No one cared enough to stop them. Now they own the country and we can't do a thing about it.
Prove me wrong, take them out of power for good.
We would be so much better off with either of them.
Stop pretending they want to win. Do fucking better.
we all tried to tell them. they will learn the hard way and our job now is to survive long enough to pick up the pieces and try to restore what’s left of our democracy 😢
Blame the racist who voted for the Rapist.
And blame the Democrats for being awful Democrats.
Same as I said Hillary was right.
Thankfully the Constitution prevents this.
https://medium.com/@leephillips.sr/elon-musk-as-head-of-the-department-of-government-efficiency-the-constitution-says-no-90a8e1b2edc0
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you signed their death sentence.