"Do you know one thing I never did to cope or in response to my autism? Repeatedly fire off a Nazi Roman salute." An incredible piece from The Big Picture that doesn’t hold back.
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Many thanks for introducing me to that writer. I got lost for quite some time reading through her works on autism and it taught me a few more things about myself. Much appreciated my good sir.
Claiming to have "Asperger's" doesn't make you neurodivergent. If you are neurodivergent, you know Elon could not be on the spectrum and dress the way he does, hoot it up at mass meetings, or self diagnose to fit his concocted genius profile. He is lying to excuse his hideous personality.
I've been telling people for years: Yes, I'm autistic...but I am *also* an asshole. These are separate facts. 😇
The truth is, my autism does reduce my own perceived need for a filter in most situations - I simply don't remember signing any of these social contracts y'all use to hurt one another...
...but I also don't go around firing off Nazi Salutes or go out of my way to hurt people.
I'll just tell you that outfit is butt ugly, if asked, when everyone else lied through their teeth about it. 😉 Oh, and I swear like a fucking sailor! 🤣
Musk is just a narcissist and sociopath. 'Ye, too.
Lol yeah, I have autism, adhd and dyspraxia, I regularly do public speaking but have somehow managed to never do a nazi salute. Probably because I’m not a fracking nazi!
Being neurodivergent isn’t a path to insanity or being evil. Thst stance is based on the demonization in the press and from the GOP (RFK Jr) about anyone who isn’t neurotypical. Just another way to “other” people
Thank you for this! My daughter has Autism, she has difficulties with “reading the room” and her sarcasm sometimes. It doesn’t make her an A-hole. She has empathy for others & a beautiful heart. I hate they are using a diagnosis as an opportunity for an excuse for their awful behavior.
Personally as somebody who is Neurodivergent myself, knowing full well that these pieces of trash don’t actually have any ADHD or autism or anything like that just makes me more pissed
I've never liked any of them.
We don't share a lot
in music, comedy, and egocentric billionaire asshole.
They are unlikable
people no matter whats goin on with them.
One of the common traits of autism is justice sensitivity. Good people recognize unfairness as it applies to all & try to eradicate it. Crap people see anything that doesn't serve them as injustice & fight to serve themselves. These are crap people in spite of their autism, not because of it.
As a rule, we do tend to be a 5-6 on Kohlbergs scale of moral development and most often sit at
Level 6, "universal ethical principles."
Injustice sensitivity is what has me on here. I'm a small account, I have no illusions that I'm not basically just yelling at clouds, but I can't stay silent 💜
I wonder if I might be neurodivergent myself. I've never been officially diagnosed with anything, but I've always had some minor ADD/ADHD type sympsoms, and I am a 6 on the moral development scale. I'm definitely high functioning but I have anxiety and do not like social situations.
These questions are the reason I'm starting the diagnostic process. Now that I understand the differences in how I perceive the world versus neurotypical, it's explaining SOOOOO much. Anxiety is definitely one of the diagnosis that women receive when the real issue is a neurodivergency.
Girls were "weird" and "lazy" ... and punished for it.
I went to catholic school in the 80s and man, I'm pretty familiar with the business end of a metre stick and what the inside of a coat cupboard looked like 🤷🏻♀️
I will point out that when I judge the ethics of a situation, "laws" don't even enter into the equation. I don't give the slighest crap about whether something is legal or illegal and it doesn't affect how I judge things morally.
If you're female, particularly a middle-aged female (because of when we grew up,) neurodiversity can present *very differently* with few "observable symptoms" but life is a living hell on the inside. The adult test for ADHD is 6 questions and relies on self-reporting. My diagnosing psychiatrist...
... tacked on the autism diagnosis for free. He was like, so, I can't formally diagnose you in your chart because you're over 18, and that isn't what this appointment is for, but oh yes ma'am you are hella autistic. Current recommendation per him is for adults to take a minimum of 3 online tests...
... and if all 3 pop positive, try making things like schedule and sensory accommodations and see if it helps, because even in Canada autism testing for adults is a fortune, and since there are no programs or benefits that a low-support-needs person can (or needs to) access...
I wasn’t diagnosed until my late 50s. Had asked my son’s (who has ADHD) psychologist for a referral to a psychologist who specialized in diagnosing adult. We had 4 virtual sessions (Covid days) and she told me there was no need to spend $2000 getting an assessment as I definitely had ADHD.
I love how being neurodivergent is an excuse for rich people to say stupid shit, yet an aggravating factor for poor people struggling to get through everyday life.
Being neurodivergent, and with mental illness, all I can say is "Preach it" I am not like that, no one I know is like that. It's a choice to be like that and do that sort of thing. Maybe appropriate behaviour is not something some people always recognize, but there's a difference here.
I’m also autistic & have never done a Nazi salute. I have many autistics in my family, including my husband. NONE of us have ever done a Nazi salute because we’re not Nazis.
The entitled and ruthlessly greedy people who try to run this land, never knew the ins and outs of the American people, and how we struggle to make a living in this country! They are the true villains in this country and must be stamped out immediately
I LOVED Buffy Sainte Marie. She was a hero to so many Indigenous women.
Then, we found out that she stole her Indigeniety and refused to take a DNA test. As a Métis woman, I can track my heritage back to place of origin and know my relations names and stories. She makes life harder for...
Yup - sadly, increasingly I realise that ‘just awful people’ do exist - social media has perhaps one benefit. Exposing their awfulness - and those that have malignantly wheedled their way into power, we ignore their ‘only joking’ at our peril and to our long term detriment.
Not everyone learns the correct lessons from experience.
Ingrained prejudice often masquerades as wisdom.
Your outlook is shitty when your head is up your ass.
I should write fortune cookies...
Those are three winners....
I've also worked in mental health for 35 years with people who are driven to do some strange things but again? Never posting racist messages or making a Nazi salute.
That's just bad choices, not poor mental health.
I find it such a sad state that mental illness and psychosocial challenges are misconstrued and stigmatised by the media on such a consistent basis that we're now at some saying 'mental illness makes you a nazi' while others nod.
Yes, some struggle with being really sick, but that not a nazi make.
I've lived with depression for 35 years, self-harmed, self-medicated, had a side helping of phobic anxiety with obsessive-compulsive traits and gone through menopause without ever posting racist messages or throwing a 'Roman' salute.
As a late-diagnosed autistic myself, I can't say I've ever stood on a stage high as a kite on drugs and thrown seig heils and blame it on my autism, either before or after my diagnosis...
I know someone with Asperger's who has made many bigoted & racist remarks. Her Asperger's is not an excuse. It just gives her the ability to blurt it all out.
"The same thing that gave rise to the Nazis and the Neo Nazis will be that which defeats them, resources one and all."
Sir, we are resources refined to and by what?
My wife has been diagnosed to be on the autism spectrum. All of her autistic friends, as well as her, swear there is no way in hell Elon is autistic. They feel he is using autism to cover for his being a shitty asshole.
It's sick that people compare us to that creature. Also, those same people who want to kill... I mean cure autism.
And as I've said, they pick and choose who is sympathetic and throw the rest of us under the bus, usually cis white men. I went through this growing up.
Elon is just Chris Chan if his father was rich enough to buy him a girlfriend. They both have awful bigoted parents, they both were convinced by said parents they're "autistic savants" when they actually have the type of autism that causes below intelligence and they both suck at video games.
We see things that neurotypicals don't, and I'm like, "How can you not make this connection? IT'S RIGHT THERE! It's dancing naked, wearing a tea cosy on its head and stomping on your foot! Are you sure you can't see it?"
If 1 in 36 Americans are on the spectrum, some are going to be selfish assholes. Some have multiple diagnoses. Some are also drug addicts. Some are spoiled entitled brats.
I'm both happy that you saw something and said 'hey me too,' but I'm sorry that it was this because, like, that sucks.
Just this year, socks have been my line in the sand. Won't wear them, because I'm tired of being miserable and uncomfortable because someone else said so. I'm an entire...
...adult and won't be doing that anymore (much to my detriment because mine AuDHD is also is ARFID flavoured) but because no one else should be subjected to my gross bare mukluk feet, I drag a pair of moccasins everywhere. Life is 8000% better 💜🤩
heh I multiple mental illnesses but I will just mention I have ADHD innatentive type. I'm kind of good at ignoring things that I feel constantly because I didn't know that I have hypersensitivities until I became an adult. I wanted to act normal like everyone else but I have realized that's not...
It's going to happen, so I feel mostly uncomfortable when I wear different things. I think my hypersensitivity isn't too bad. I think yours is a bit more intense than mine, but I try to push through the uncomfortableness the best I can. I think I've stayed strong or maybe I'm too lazy.
Mottherfucker. As a female Indigenous Canadian who was diagnosed with AuDHD on my 41st birthday, this piece is basically my life story, only with being raised by racist bigots. Holy shit. I feel so seen right now.
Calling it a Roman salute plays into fascists’ word games. I don’t care if the two salutes are the same. Those were Nazi salutes. Make them own it. Call it what it is.
By George I think you’ve got it! Behavioral genetics agrees with your assessment. Mental health people call these dangerous sociopaths therapy resistant. Brain scans confirm it.
The Bible calls them predestined for hell and beyond redemption.
Johnny Cash served in the arm services of the United States along with a lot of other great people such as Tammy Duckworth, JFK, George HW Bush, Bob Dole, John McCain, John Kerry. Meanwhile, the orange menace pisses all over our war heroes, soldiers, veterans and war dead.
As someone with ASD, I am a huge proponent of justice, truth, and living life honestly, these Nazi’s are reaching for excuses that don’t coincide with reality. I am with @georgetakei.bsky.social, I have never fired off any salute but the ones to officers while enlisted. Never a Nazi salute!
We should probably stop discussing it as the nazi salute.
It was, but more importantly is shared by all fascists, starting with Mussolini who wanted to restore the glory of their Roman Empire past & "Make Italy Great Again"... hence the Roman salute.
I think the Nazi link misses the wider significance.
The Maga right will tell us they are just doing a Roman Salute. They know the reason they adopted it is they recognise theirs is a new fascist movement. They may not be Nazi's, but being fascist is not exactly better.
They can push back on people saying they are doing Nazi salutes, but asking them why they adopted the Roman Salute in the same way other fascist movements did is much harder to explain away
Maybe not setting up the easy response they expect to be able to use would make them squirm harder?
One reason people think there has been a pandemic of Autism is that they have changed the diagnostic criteria to basically "Socially Awkward" and there have been millions of people diagnosed based on that alone.
Instead of "so socially brilliant from masking in the 80s that she became a social scientist, but still can't figure out how not to cry in the grocery store because it's too bright and the temperature keeps changing, a social battery that just dies with no warning and will hyperfocus into burnout?"
Why are they all obsessed with "curing" autism while insisting that Elon is a genius and we should be thankful for someone like him in our personal information?
I used to give Elon some leeway for being awkward. I understand that. But autism doesn't make someone an uncaring monster.
My son isn't great at emotions, but he knows social rules like politeness, fairness, and accountability. He's not an asshole automatically because of autism.
I am pretty much neurodiverse (not correctly good and half diagnosed if you ask me) , and I think I have it for the largest part from my mom (also If I ask my siblings) , and when I see my mom , but Elon Musk might be autist ... he is also pretty much a prick and and attentionwhore ...
I'm in the spectrum, and I also never ever even came close to performing a "roman" salute. It's so detestable when people like them use autism as an excuse to being complete a**holes.
All three of my children are fully functional neurodivergent people. They have special challenges. You know what they they don’t struggle with? Knowing the difference between right and wrong. The idea that anyone would excuse Musk’s behavior because of his autism is insulting.
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The truth is, my autism does reduce my own perceived need for a filter in most situations - I simply don't remember signing any of these social contracts y'all use to hurt one another...
I'll just tell you that outfit is butt ugly, if asked, when everyone else lied through their teeth about it. 😉 Oh, and I swear like a fucking sailor! 🤣
Musk is just a narcissist and sociopath. 'Ye, too.
This could be any of us. We must speak out now, before it’s too late.
Protest on 4/19 and go on strike as a nation:
https://GeneralStrikeUS.com
Being an aspie or an autistic person is not the same as being a fucking ashole, like they are !
We don't share a lot
in music, comedy, and egocentric billionaire asshole.
They are unlikable
people no matter whats goin on with them.
Level 6, "universal ethical principles."
Injustice sensitivity is what has me on here. I'm a small account, I have no illusions that I'm not basically just yelling at clouds, but I can't stay silent 💜
Boys were neurodivergent.
Girls were "weird" and "lazy" ... and punished for it.
I went to catholic school in the 80s and man, I'm pretty familiar with the business end of a metre stick and what the inside of a coat cupboard looked like 🤷🏻♀️
Autistic people tend to have a super heightened sense of justice and fairness NOT racists murderous fantasies
Then, we found out that she stole her Indigeniety and refused to take a DNA test. As a Métis woman, I can track my heritage back to place of origin and know my relations names and stories. She makes life harder for...
We no longer view her as a hero and have stripped her of pretty much every award she's ever received in Canada.
It's painful when your heroes fall, but if they're still your heroes after they do, you are not a good person 🤷🏻♀️💜
Guess what?
I’m a genuinely nice person who only hates people who hurt my friends. Oh, and myself. Maybe I’m repeating myself by saying that…
Regardless, some people are just fucking assholes. Stop blaming mental illness.
Ingrained prejudice often masquerades as wisdom.
Your outlook is shitty when your head is up your ass.
I should write fortune cookies...
Those are three winners....
That's just bad choices, not poor mental health.
Yes, some struggle with being really sick, but that not a nazi make.
Sir, we are resources refined to and by what?
And as I've said, they pick and choose who is sympathetic and throw the rest of us under the bus, usually cis white men. I went through this growing up.
That, friend, is Rosanne Barr. How far she's fallen.
Yeah, AuDHD can bring big feelings, but I adore the way my mind works, and wouldn't change it if you paid me to.
I often feel like humanity would still be living in the stone age without neurodivergent people.
There is learned information. Hopefully, one can recall the correct information and act upon it at the proper location and time.
I'm going to go bead that quote onto something now, lol 💜
We see things that neurotypicals don't, and I'm like, "How can you not make this connection? IT'S RIGHT THERE! It's dancing naked, wearing a tea cosy on its head and stomping on your foot! Are you sure you can't see it?"
'That is, like your opinion, man'
- The Dude
Cry in the grocery store because it's too loud, too bright, I can feel my socks, and that kid won't quit screaming? Monthly.
Throw up a German painter wave? Not once.
Just this year, socks have been my line in the sand. Won't wear them, because I'm tired of being miserable and uncomfortable because someone else said so. I'm an entire...
My brother was perverse and literally groomed me and SA'd me, but it's okay because he has autism.
I however, his sister, was irredeemable for calling him disgusting and should "control myself." We're both AuDHD or at least ADHD.
The Bible calls them predestined for hell and beyond redemption.
Nazi ain’t got no humanity. Lt. Aldo Raine
Please take the time to listen to this song because it is more relevant today than it ever was.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4PJO65DV_FM&pp=ygUia25vY2sgb24gdGhlIGRvb3IgcGhpbCBvY2hzIGx5cmljcw%3D%3D
It was, but more importantly is shared by all fascists, starting with Mussolini who wanted to restore the glory of their Roman Empire past & "Make Italy Great Again"... hence the Roman salute.
The Maga right will tell us they are just doing a Roman Salute. They know the reason they adopted it is they recognise theirs is a new fascist movement. They may not be Nazi's, but being fascist is not exactly better.
Maybe not setting up the easy response they expect to be able to use would make them squirm harder?
My son isn't great at emotions, but he knows social rules like politeness, fairness, and accountability. He's not an asshole automatically because of autism.
An upside-down smile, a reverse smile, a downturned smile, typically suggests sadness, disapproval, displeasure
Characterized by the corners of the mouth curving downwards. It's interpreted as a negative emotional expression
Exactly. I’m tired of the excuses for bad behavior.
RIP Dr. Donda West