The goal is to get the cost of care low enough,by removing extraneous costs, that what people can't afford on their own, the government can cover by paying outright
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Palmer Watkins
So to me this would just lead to people simply utilizing healthcare less (which many uninsured already do until an ED visit is necessitated). Paying cash for everything is simply too expensive (even if published it’s not like a middle class family can save and keep that money liquid).
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Universal healthcare is the only way forward.
For any society to prosper, it must be educated and healthy. Those are the two main requirements.
South Korea has a universal healthcare system.
My dad had open heart surgery a while back. Only incurred $200 in expenses because of a single room request.
Basically, "universal" is good but it doesn't mean what many Americans think it means, "everything I & my provider ask will be paid, no questions asked".
It is obviously a constant subject or discussion among the professionals, bureaucrats and politicians. So are the words "medical necessity".
All the questions are asked outside of the patients hearing.
What's agreed is paid
It cracks me every time when Canadians post as if the US has no zero out of pocket options
No arguing that Canadian medical debt is lower even if not non-existent. Also agree that the gap to universal needs to be closed in the US
Universal healthcare has been proven to work in countries with all types of different economies, cultures, and whatever other parameters.
You know what people are upset about now, right?
Anyway, I wish a UK political party would have the guts to talk about the French model.
still requires 1/3 of your healthcare expenses to go through private, allows to access and across-the-provinces inequalities, and is not comprehensive.
Your middlemen are the multiple agencies. It's fine, but🤷
for-profit healthcare, to include vision, dental, and mental should be abolished
#UniversalHealthcare
It just won’t make health care company executives rich anymore, and it will give poor brown people the same care as poor white people - which the white people can’t stand.
Even at a low cost, paying for medical care will be de-prioritized over other expenses and medical care will be avoided.
People don’t want to pay for eggs, much less a preventative care visit.
Ergo, single-payer. Proposing anything else will just slow the progress of achieving the proper goal.
We don't have the opportunity to shop around.
If an AI could handle all the logistics shipping directly from the producers to the user prices could be slashed. For example, all pharmacists could easily be replaced by an AI.
The costs are high cause fat cats get their billions that way
Healthcare costs ARENT EXPENSIVE on their own. It’s the rich who
OWN our Healthcare that drive up costs
our allies in industrialized Nations can give healthcare to EVERYONE
The greedy GOP oligarchs are our problem
Most forced to work for a hospital or venture capitalists.
Lots of unpaid hours fighting insurance companies, who delay and deny.
Plus, if they work for themselves, they have to pay malpractice insurance.
Insurance is where the $ goes.
Where has he been?
He sees the shift after the Luigi Mangione case. He’s going for an angle where he can profit
He’s a billionaire. Why do you think this billionaire will be than the other billionaire?
1. A representative from the city & county public works
2. The the state DOT
3. Half of the state legislators from each House or Senate
4. Fox News to blame it on the last Dem administration (Federal, not local)
5. A picture & sound bite of "yep, it's a hole".
“Forty-five percent of American adults report struggling to cover their medical bills and are either Cost Insecure or Cost Desperate.”
“Low enough” would be to save gov. money with full coverage to ensure checkups.
https://westhealth.org/news/new-study-reveals-more-struggling-to-afford-healthcare
20 years ago, I spent more than $300K taking care of my mother. No savings left. I'm 63, lost my job last year.
My life is ruined.
Example from Belgium. I visit my primary care physician for a brief consultation (10 minutes):
They charge: ~$30
Mutual pays directly: ~$24
I pay: ~$6
All "typical" procedures have a standard code and price.
It isnt close
Imagine all the money that goes into maintaining all the private insurance infrastructure. That would be completely eliminated with national plan. The private sector would be free to set up their own additional infrastructure anyway they want.
Most providers spend tons of time and money fighting with insurance.
Most providers have been swallowed up by larger corps. who pay them little, give them no time to see patients, and grind them.
Not doing non-care things in-house is a feature of single-payer systems as well. What seems to be a problem?
"Doctors" are setting the prices along with other payers.
American physicians are compensated at higher rate than anywhere, have more associates expenses and their insurance is a huge contribution to the "prices"
The claim processing is automated. The billing is either outsourced or done in-house by the office stuff.
The idea of one physician per "army of billers" is not supported by labor statistics
But nobody in the R party cares about $4T that could be saved directly into people's pockets (and be a healthier country) because it would eliminate the profits of their donors.
It's not perfect, but it's a pretty good system.
We want Medicare For All.
There are shortages in primary care and get paid less and the system now rewards specialists and those who order lots of tests and do procedures and not the primary care. Continuity with a PCP can lower costs and improve outcomes
What it does is lower costs, prevents bankruptcies, and increases life expectancy.
https://bsky.app/profile/roguecitizenone.bsky.social/post/3lffw2q5p5224
He’s just a saboteur who wants to make us believe he is on our side.
Their objective is to keep things as they are by pretending that they are doing something.
Don’t trust billionaires!!!!!
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30857-6/fulltext
I agree. I spend several months a year in Mérida, Yucatán, México. I was surprised to learn Healthcare is not a "right," but due to the lack of government bureaucracy, Healthcare in México is affordable, and people pay cash for doctor visits.
I understand this is also true of Malaysia.
And government does invest a lot of money into research and development.
And think of the time lost for employers due to illness.
The goal should be removing extraneous costs (i.e. 'Healthcare organizations'), removing the wage cap on OASDI/HI tax while doubling the portion of the tax that is Health insurance. Then it would be relatively simple to go single payer healthcare with low copay for individuals.